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[Hagar]

You’d think these Far Left Loons would listen to this young lady, but when you’ve been thoroughly brainwashed, facts roll off you like water off a ducks back.

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[tvc184]

In truth you could probably interview most people that are from socialist, communist and dictatorship countries and you would get about the same results.

[Hagar]

22 hours ago, tvc184 said:

In truth you could probably interview most people that are from socialist, communist and dictatorship countries and you would get about the same results.

Which begs the question, if those people are telling you how bad things are, why don’t more people realize it?

[tvc184]

2 hours ago, Hagar said:

Which begs the question, if those people are telling you how bad things are, why don’t more people realize it?

Because there is always the belief, yeah all those other socialist programs failed but ours will succeed. We will do it differently.

Socialism is driven by idealism. We will all have a group hug, we will all pitch in our fair share, we will all do the same thing and everything will work out great. It is the panacea to all human problems, we will just all work together.

But all these idealists forget one thing. That thing is a human factor. We are all motivated but we are each individually motivated by our personal desires. No one is going to get up and work for his fellow man. We work for ourselves. That doesn’t mean we don’t help our fellow man. I would say that the capitalist American system probably donates more than the rest of the world combined and I’m talking even at the local level. 

Yes I know that there are doctors they volunteer their services around the world and there are missionaries who take no money and travel to poor countries to help but about 99.99% of the people work or do whatever they do to satisfy themselves. Socialism or equality depends everyone doing what today is being done by the 0.01%. That is the person that will get up and donate his time and effort for the collective. That is the basis of socialism.

That is because of human nature however there are even people reading this forum who will think, yeah but that is not our version. Yes, it is your version.

The people at the top will live like kings and the 99.5% of the people at the bottom will live like the people in Cuba, NK, etc., however they have convinced themselves otherwise.

Under a free enterprise capitalist system there will still be those people at the top but the people in the middle and some of the people near the bottom still live comfortable lives. Many get to do vacations, family gatherings, have decent homes, decent vehicles and I’m talking even in the lower economic circles. Most of the ones in the lower economic sections can still get out if they wish. But again, there will be people reading this comment that will say either to themselves or in this form, all of that may be true but ours will be different. Again, no it won’t.

It comes down to one word, freedom. The leftist who are pushing socialism do not believe that. 

[Hagar]

1 hour ago, tvc184 said:

Because there is always the belief, yeah all those other socialist programs failed but ours will succeed. We will do it differently.

Socialism is driven by idealism. We will all have a group hug, we will all pitch in our fair share, we will all do the same thing and everything will work out great. It is the panacea to all human problems, we will just all work together.

But all these idealists forget one thing. That thing is a human factor. We are all motivated but we are each individually motivated by our personal desires. No one is going to get up and work for his fellow man. We work for ourselves. That doesn’t mean we don’t help our fellow man. I would say that the capitalist American system probably donates more than the rest of the world combined and I’m talking even at the local level. 

Yes I know that there are doctors they volunteer their services around the world and there are missionaries who take no money and travel to poor countries to help but about 99.99% of the people work or do whatever they do to satisfy themselves. Socialism or equality depends everyone doing what today is being done by the 0.01%. That is the person that will get up and donate his time and effort for the collective. That is the basis of socialism.

That is because of human nature however there are even people reading this forum who will think, yeah but that is not our version. Yes, it is your version.

The people at the top will live like kings and the 99.5% of the people at the bottom will live like the people in Cuba, NK, etc., however they have convinced themselves otherwise.

Under a free enterprise capitalist system there will still be those people at the top but the people in the middle and some of the people near the bottom still live comfortable lives. Many get to do vacations, family gatherings, have decent homes, decent vehicles and I’m talking even in the lower economic circles. Most of the ones in the lower economic sections can still get out if they wish. But again, there will be people reading this comment that will say either to themselves or in this form, all of that may be true but ours will be different. Again, no it won’t.

It comes down to one word, freedom. The leftist who are pushing socialism do not believe that. 

What a great post tvc184.  You said best what most of would like to say.

[Derf Nosneb]

1 hour ago, Hagar said:

What a great post tvc184.  You said best what most of would like to say.

Hagar will you know lead us in Kim Ba Yah? 

Dittos to tvc184 also.

[Hagar]

4 hours ago, Derf Nosneb said:

Hagar will you know lead us in Kim Ba Yah? 

Dittos to tvc184 also.

No, but happy to lead us all in Amarillo By Morning!  😂😂

[Derf Nosneb]

55 minutes ago, Hagar said:

No, but happy to lead us all in Amarillo By Morning!  😂😂

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