Hagar Posted July 8, 2021 Report Posted July 8, 2021 On 7/8/2021 at 7:47 PM, Godzilla said: I hope so lol. But that's why I asked, because I have no idea how anyone could think Coach Williams being gone would be a good thing. Expand Suffice it to say that some of the administrators were less than stellar. RETIREDFAN1 1 Quote
Guest mrtomcat Posted July 9, 2021 Report Posted July 9, 2021 Evadale needs to figure it out and figure it out in a hurry. Quote
lsutigers20230 Posted July 10, 2021 Report Posted July 10, 2021 I heard Buckner is getting the Evadale Job Quote
Guest mrtomcat Posted July 10, 2021 Report Posted July 10, 2021 On 7/10/2021 at 2:21 AM, lsutigers20230 said: I heard Buckner is getting the Evadale Job Expand Jay would do good at Evadale. He can keep em on track Quote
Uncle Pig Posted July 10, 2021 Report Posted July 10, 2021 Yeah he’ll keep em on track alright..dude has 2 winning seasons out of 12 seasons as a head coach (a smooth 29-88 record leading the stellar southeast Texas programs of Santa Flush and Warren). Of course the powers that be will say “he has experience as a head coach/AD”. Quote
Guest mrtomcat Posted July 10, 2021 Report Posted July 10, 2021 On 7/10/2021 at 3:49 PM, Uncle Pig said: Yeah he’ll keep em on track alright..dude has 2 winning seasons out of 12 seasons as a head coach (a smooth 29-88 record leading the stellar southeast Texas programs of Santa Flush and Warren). Of course the powers that be will say “he has experience as a head coach/AD”. Expand jay's a good coach. he just has had std's for athletes at those two places. when you have std's and not studs, you look you like you dont know what the hello you're doing, but in reality, you do. why is this fact? because the same teams win, over and over in se texas, which is why its far more important to have the studs and not the std's. ya dig homeboy ----and last i checked (evasmell has some kids that can go for 2a) - couple that with a garbage district and you have a winning season. remember........all you have to do in se texas is make the playoffs and your local community thinks your the 2nd coming of the lord. Quote
Uncle Pig Posted July 10, 2021 Report Posted July 10, 2021 On 7/10/2021 at 6:46 PM, mrtomcat said: jay's a good coach. he just has had std's for athletes at those two places. when you have std's and not studs, you look you like you dont know what the hello you're doing, but in reality, you do. why is this fact? because the same teams win, over and over in se texas, which is why its far more important to have the studs and not the std's. ya dig homeboy ----and last i checked (evasmell has some kids that can go for 2a) - couple that with a garbage district and you have a winning season. remember........all you have to do in se texas is make the playoffs and your local community thinks your the 2nd coming of the lord. Expand The sign of a good coach...a coach that goes to a place that has never won before and starts to win at that place. Reagan and Hagar 2 Quote
Godzilla Posted July 11, 2021 Report Posted July 11, 2021 On 7/10/2021 at 2:21 AM, lsutigers20230 said: I heard Buckner is getting the Evadale Job Expand Would be a huge pay cut for him Quote
Guest mrtomcat Posted July 12, 2021 Report Posted July 12, 2021 On 7/10/2021 at 11:09 PM, Uncle Pig said: The sign of a good coach...a coach that goes to a place that has never won before and starts to win at that place. Expand NAME THAT PLACE in southeast Texas......... I will wait Quote
Reagan Posted July 12, 2021 Report Posted July 12, 2021 On 7/12/2021 at 5:26 PM, mrtomcat said: NAME THAT PLACE in southeast Texas......... I will wait Expand From Uncle Pig: "The sign of a good coach...a coach that goes to a place that has never won before and starts to win at that place." There are numerous places in Texas I could offer. So, why would any southeast Texas school be any different with the right coach? BTW: To answer your question, Doug Ethridge comes to mind. PNG's last State Title was in 1955. For the next 20 years they could manage only 2 district championships. Ethridge took over and won 4 straight district titles and played in 2 state tiles winning one. The difference? The 'RIGHT" coach came along! Hagar 1 Quote
Guest mrtomcat Posted July 12, 2021 Report Posted July 12, 2021 On 7/12/2021 at 6:23 PM, Reagan said: From Uncle Pig: "The sign of a good coach...a coach that goes to a place that has never won before and starts to win at that place." There are numerous places in Texas I could offer. So, why would any southeast Texas school be any different with the right coach? BTW: To answer your question, Doug Ethridge comes to mind. PNG's last State Title was in 1955. For the next 20 years they could manage only 2 district championships. Ethridge took over and won 4 straight district titles and played in 2 state tiles winning one. The difference? The 'RIGHT" coach came along! Expand PNG has won since I have been alive Who else you got ? Quote
purpleeagle Posted July 12, 2021 Report Posted July 12, 2021 On 7/12/2021 at 6:53 PM, mrtomcat said: PNG has won since I have been alive Who else you got ? Expand 1975 Quote
Reagan Posted July 12, 2021 Report Posted July 12, 2021 On 7/12/2021 at 6:53 PM, mrtomcat said: PNG has won since I have been alive Who else you got ? Expand Is this a question or statement? Quote
purpleeagle Posted July 12, 2021 Report Posted July 12, 2021 Alveres ( not sure of spelling) came from west Sabine to Kirbyville and changed that program. Reagan 1 Quote
WOSdrummer99 Posted July 12, 2021 Report Posted July 12, 2021 On 7/12/2021 at 9:54 PM, purpleeagle said: Alveres ( not sure of spelling) came from west Sabine to Kirbyville and changed that program. Expand Jack alverez, current HFC at Cuero? That was gonna be my answer too. But I'm not sure if kirbyville had won before him. Quote
purpleeagle Posted July 12, 2021 Report Posted July 12, 2021 Alvarez and W.T. Johnson were roommates in college. Quote
88Warrior Posted July 12, 2021 Report Posted July 12, 2021 On 7/12/2021 at 11:17 PM, WOSdrummer99 said: Jack alverez, current HFC at Cuero? That was gonna be my answer too. But I'm not sure if kirbyville had won before him. Expand I think Larry Grissom won quite a few games there in the ‘80’s… Quote
Go-rilla Posted July 13, 2021 Report Posted July 13, 2021 Andy Evans at EC. EC was not very good when he took over there. stewart at dayton Stump at Brook Don Price at BH Alvarez at Kirbyville Haynes at Hardin Guy that Coached at Bridge City in 2000s ( came from Hamshire) Vanover at Diboll and Living stoned. Robison at Woodville Quote
Separation Scientist Posted July 13, 2021 Report Posted July 13, 2021 On 7/13/2021 at 8:45 AM, Go-rilla said: Andy Evans at EC. EC was not very good when he took over there. stewart at dayton Stump at Brook Don Price at BH Alvarez at Kirbyville Haynes at Hardin Guy that Coached at Bridge City in 2000s ( came from Hamshire) Vanover at Diboll and Living stoned. Robison at Woodville Expand Thats a good list. That was Claude Tarver that went from Hamshire to Bridge City. mrtomcat did not have to wait long, apparently. Quote
Guest mrtomcat Posted July 13, 2021 Report Posted July 13, 2021 On 7/13/2021 at 8:45 AM, Go-rilla said: Andy Evans at EC. EC was not very good when he took over there. stewart at dayton Stump at Brook Don Price at BH Alvarez at Kirbyville Haynes at Hardin Guy that Coached at Bridge City in 2000s ( came from Hamshire) Vanover at Diboll and Living stoned. Robison at Woodville Expand On 7/13/2021 at 9:21 AM, Separation Scientist said: Thats a good list. That was Claude Tarver that went from Hamshire to Bridge City. mrtomcat did not have to wait long, apparently. Expand No. I am still waiting. These are all the same TEAMS that have won year after year for the last 30 years. Only Hardin has not won anything ---with Larry Haynes they won a little but he's about the only person I see on this list that came into a terrible situation and won ball games. Everyone else on this list took over programs that had won before and ironically, they still WIN TODAY without them there. So, its more the kids than it is the coach Next........... Quote
Guest mrtomcat Posted July 13, 2021 Report Posted July 13, 2021 On 7/12/2021 at 11:57 PM, 88Warrior said: I think Larry Grissom won quite a few games there in the ‘80’s… Expand So did Bob Jenkins. So lets all agree KIRBYVILLE does not make this list. Barbers Hill ---- How can you be that dumb to mention Barbers Hill and Don Price BH has won since the very beginning. They HAVE STATE CHAMPIONSHIPS in their trophy cases. I'm going to retract my statement on Dayton and Jerry Stewart. He's got to get some credit. Dayton was maybe the crappiest team in the state before he got there They dominated under his reign for 20 years and then he left and they fell apart and still can't get their mojo back. Diboll has won alot in the past / Livingston has won quite a bit in the past Woodville has tradiotionally been a .500 ball club. No they dont make deep playoff runs, but they get there ALOT ! Quote
Separation Scientist Posted July 13, 2021 Report Posted July 13, 2021 On 7/13/2021 at 2:56 PM, mrtomcat said: So did Bob Jenkins. So lets all agree KIRBYVILLE does not make this list. Barbers Hill ---- How can you be that dumb to mention Barbers Hill and Don Price BH has won since the very beginning. They HAVE STATE CHAMPIONSHIPS in their trophy cases. I'm going to retract my statement on Dayton and Jerry Stewart. He's got to get some credit. Dayton was maybe the crappiest team in the state before he got there They dominated under his reign for 20 years and then he left and they fell apart and still can't get their mojo back. Diboll has won alot in the past / Livingston has won quite a bit in the past Woodville has tradiotionally been a .500 ball club. No they dont make deep playoff runs, but they get there ALOT ! Expand How do you explain Evans at EC, Stump at Brook, Alvarez at Kirbyville, Haynes at Hardin, and Tarver at BC? You left those out in your attempted rebuttal. Quote
Godzilla Posted July 14, 2021 Report Posted July 14, 2021 Well all that talk may not matter. Haven't heard that Buckner was taking the job. As of today it's still open. Along with head baseball, Jh/elem principal, and HS principal. So they still only have 3 boys coaches on staff. Quote
purpleeagle Posted July 14, 2021 Report Posted July 14, 2021 Alvarez took over Kirbyville in 2000 prior to that Kirbyville had a 25 game losing streak. In 3 years He led Kirbyville to their first playoff birth in 14 years and it only got better after that until he left for Ennis. That fits my definition of turning a program around. Quote
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