mat Posted July 4, 2021 Report Posted July 4, 2021 Abbott may have a real challenger. This is the hidden content, please Sign In or Sign Up Quote
baddog Posted July 4, 2021 Report Posted July 4, 2021 18 minutes ago, mat said: Abbott may have a real challenger. This is the hidden content, please Sign In or Sign Up Allen West being governor of the “Great State of Texas” would be a step in the right direction, even though I believe Abbott has done a fine job. InMAGAWeTrust 1 Quote
LumRaiderFan Posted July 5, 2021 Report Posted July 5, 2021 1 hour ago, Chester86 said: Is he from Texas? Not from Texas but was the Texas GOP chair until he resigned recently. Not sure where he’s from but he used to be a Florida representative. He would be a great governor, hates the green deal crap. Quote
Chester86 Posted July 5, 2021 Report Posted July 5, 2021 He may be a great guy, but he’ll have to prove he is a better option than Abbott. Besides the C-19 debacle I think he (Abbott) has done a fantastic overall job. InMAGAWeTrust and Hagar 1 1 Quote
LumRaiderFan Posted July 5, 2021 Report Posted July 5, 2021 6 minutes ago, Chester86 said: He may be a great guy, but he’ll have to prove he is a better option than Abbott. Besides the C-19 debacle I think he (Abbott) has done a fantastic overall job. I agree 100%. Quote
tvc184 Posted July 5, 2021 Report Posted July 5, 2021 It is very tough to beat an incumbent, period. Merely being better is not enough. The people have to be angry at the incumbent. Allen West will likely be a very strong challenger but, will conservative voters of Texas angry enough at Abbott to vote against him? There is a fairly vocal group Republicans and conservatives that are adamantly against the governor. It all stems from the mask mandate. I don’t think they have anywhere near a majority however. Abbott has been making very popular moves since then with conservatives such as denying the legislature their pay for walking out, signing the constitutional carry law (and other gun or anti federal government laws) and his rhetoric about the border. West is a popular person in his own right and for several years appears to be very conservative. If Abbott was not running, for example he decided to try to be a senator or some other position, West would probably win in a landslide. I just don’t think the stars will line up for him at this moment in time. He will probably make a strong run but…. It is hard to take down an incumbent. I would lean toward voting for West at this moment and I am not against Abbott. I just think that West will be a stronger voice in that position for Texas. thetragichippy 1 Quote
WOSdrummer99 Posted July 5, 2021 Report Posted July 5, 2021 3 hours ago, tvc184 said: If Abbott was not running, for example he decided to try to be a senator or some other position, West would probably win in a landslide. Hasn't he been posturing for a presidential campaign? Maybe just a VP role. Quote
tvc184 Posted July 5, 2021 Report Posted July 5, 2021 2 hours ago, WOSdrummer99 said: Hasn't he been posturing for a presidential campaign? Maybe just a VP role. I think they both are. Having a Texas governor posturing for a national run is almost a given. Quote
PAMFAM10 Posted July 5, 2021 Report Posted July 5, 2021 Why have Allen run against Abbott republicans seem high on both this will only make one a loser. Might kill either political career. And now they’ll have to campaign(fight)against each other. Just my opinion. Chester86, mat and Hagar 2 1 Quote
5GallonBucket Posted July 5, 2021 Report Posted July 5, 2021 5 hours ago, WOSdrummer99 said: Hasn't he been posturing for a presidential campaign? Maybe just a VP role. From my source he is Quote
baddog Posted July 5, 2021 Report Posted July 5, 2021 44 minutes ago, PAMFAM10 said: Why have Allen run against Abbott republicans seem high on both this will only make one a loser. Might kill either political career. And now they’ll have to campaign(fight)against each other. Just my opinion. I see what you are saying and it does make it difficult. I am happy that republicans have this problem….highly qualified from every angle. Not sure it would kill either’s career should they lose. Dims simply deal with the flavor of the day. Quote
SmashMouth Posted July 5, 2021 Report Posted July 5, 2021 4 hours ago, PAMFAM10 said: Why have Allen run against Abbott republicans seem high on both this will only make one a loser. Might kill either political career. And now they’ll have to campaign(fight)against each other. Just my opinion. Smart Quote
InMAGAWeTrust Posted July 6, 2021 Report Posted July 6, 2021 Anyone other than Abbott or Beto, please.. I’d be fine with a potato Quote
A BUC 77 Posted July 6, 2021 Report Posted July 6, 2021 Abbot will be hard to beat. If he survives the Freeze debacle. He may not have had much to do about it, but it was on his watch. Quote
tvc184 Posted July 6, 2021 Report Posted July 6, 2021 48 minutes ago, A BUC 77 said: Abbot will be hard to beat. If he survives the Freeze debacle. He may not have had much to do about it, but it was on his watch. I don’t think they freeze will be his undoing if anything. It will be the mask mandate which was completely legal but too many people claimed otherwise. Others that might acknowledge that it was legal, didn’t agree with it. Quote
mat Posted July 6, 2021 Author Report Posted July 6, 2021 The big question here, is who do the dems have as a challenger? The farther he goes to the right (like building the wall, which I agree with) the more ignited the left will get. Quote
SmashMouth Posted July 6, 2021 Report Posted July 6, 2021 1 hour ago, A BUC 77 said: Abbot will be hard to beat. If he survives the Freeze debacle. He may not have had much to do about it, but it was on his watch. In general, voters have a short attention span. I don’t think that will have much bearing. Quote
A BUC 77 Posted July 6, 2021 Report Posted July 6, 2021 4 hours ago, SmashMouth said: In general, voters have a short attention span. I don’t think that will have much bearing. That's true, but they're a lot of people that are still repairing their house. Price of materials are still high partly because of it. I think he will survive though. SmashMouth 1 Quote
Hagar Posted July 7, 2021 Report Posted July 7, 2021 I’d rather see West running against Cornyn in 2024 (I believe). Imo, Cornyn is just...ok. Not quite as conservative as I would like. Reagan 1 Quote
LumRaiderFan Posted July 7, 2021 Report Posted July 7, 2021 9 hours ago, tvc184 said: I don’t think they freeze will be his undoing if anything. It will be the mask mandate which was completely legal but too many people claimed otherwise. Others that might acknowledge that it was legal, didn’t agree with it. Agree 100%, voters that actually pay attention wouldn’t blame the freeze on him…or anyone. Can’t unreasonably expect to be ready for everything. He did drop the ball on the mask mandate, imo. This is Texas, not California, he seemed to temporarily forget that. Quote
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