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I'm surprised no one has posted this. The popular view is the boyfriend murdered her.....To me, driving HER van back and refusing to talk to police does not sound like a guilty person. I would think a guilty person would make up an alibi or NOT come home in HER van......

Also, the only evidence we have is police body cams that show her as the aggressor.......

Thoughts????

 

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Posted
16 minutes ago, baddog said:

To me, an innocent person would be in Utah searching for her, be it wife/girlfriend/fiancé 

Only speculation, but what if she left him? To me, there has to be more to the story as to why he won’t talk…..

Posted
1 hour ago, thetragichippy said:

Did she get kidnapped and they told him not to talk or they would kill her? 
 

has to be more to story

Lots of scenarios without any more info. Just have to wait. I’ll go with my gut and say he shoved her off a cliff. I’ve been wrong before.

Posted
7 minutes ago, baddog said:

Lots of scenarios without any more info. Just have to wait. I’ll go with my gut and say he shoved her off a cliff. I’ve been wrong before.

If he shoved her off a cliff, why not call police and act like she fell off? He would have a better chance of getting off doing that than driving her van home and not cooperating. That is what is puzzling to me....he's doing things that would all point to him.....he can't be THAT stupid.....

and notice, no one has come forward saying he was ever previously violent......

Posted
5 minutes ago, thetragichippy said:

If he shoved her off a cliff, why not call police and act like she fell off? He would have a better chance of getting off doing that than driving her van home and not cooperating. That is what is puzzling to me....he's doing things that would all point to him.....he can't be THAT stupid.....

and notice, no one has come forward saying he was ever previously violent......

If he shoved her off a cliff, no one would believe that she fell. You are right though, he is acting peculiar. Do charges have to be filed to question him. I thought a person of interest could be questioned

Posted
27 minutes ago, baddog said:

If he shoved her off a cliff, no one would believe that she fell. You are right though, he is acting peculiar. Do charges have to be filed to question him. I thought a person of interest could be questioned

That would be a TVC184 question, but my guess is you can bring someone in for questioning but they do not have to answer.....and even after formal charges, they can plead the 5th......

 

I'll tell you this, he is already guilty in the court of public opinion......but for some reason, I'm leaning he is innocent......I think there is way more to the story

Posted
2 hours ago, baddog said:

If he shoved her off a cliff, no one would believe that she fell. You are right though, he is acting peculiar. Do charges have to be filed to question him. I thought a person of interest could be questioned

 A person cannot be questioned without his consent, period.  That is movie gibberish. The old, take him in for questioning.  That is unlawful.

A person cannot be arrested without probable cause that a crime was committed.

Posted
3 minutes ago, tvc184 said:

 A person cannot be questioned without his consent, period.  That is movie gibberish. The old, take him in for questioning.  That is unlawful.

A person cannot be arrested without probable cause that a crime was committed.

I know we have limited information, curious of your thoughts on this case.

Posted
26 minutes ago, tvc184 said:

 A person cannot be questioned without his consent, period.  That is movie gibberish. The old, take him in for questioning.  That is unlawful.

A person cannot be arrested without probable cause that a crime was committed.

I did ask if charges had to be filed. 

Posted
Just now, thetragichippy said:

I know we have limited information, curious of your thoughts on this case.

I think he is acting extremely guilty. As far as not giving an alibi, most sidewalk lawyers and Facebook attorneys are now smart enough to simply not talk to the police. The alibi is what gets you hung. It locks you into a story that you probably cannot prove. Look at Martha Stewart. She went to prison for an insider stock trading scam. But did she go for the scam? No, she went because she gave an alibi and it was like a proven false and they got her for obstructing justice, perjury or whatever the FBI called it. 

Maybe he is not guilty but if your girlfriend was missing for 10 days and you had nothing to do with it, why not at least report her missing? If it’s the truth simply say she left on this day and I have not seen her again. You don’t have to say any more than that.

There are some very sinister people out there. The news article mentioned there was another couple murdered nearby a few days earlier. There is speculation that maybe Gabby  is also a victim of the same person(s). But let’s play what if…..

What is the boyfriend murdered that couple just to set up killing her later? Shoot a couple for no reason with a 9 mm and then come back a couple of weeks later and shoot your girlfriend near the same location, then get rid of the gun. The police recover slugs from all bodies and announce that whoever killed the couple also killed Gabby.

Do we remember while we now have secure packaging on most products and why we often now have caplets instead of capsules? It was the Tylenol murders in the early 1980s. Without the tamper proof packaging that we have today (which came about because of this incident), somebody took Tylenol and put cyanide inside the capsules and put them back on the shelf. Several people were killed and they suspected a man of doing it for extortion from Johnson and Johnson. Then another man using that idea, poisoned his wife and another unrelated man. I believe the unrelated man was killed simply to look like it was a random just like his wife. The man was eventually I believe convicted of killing the unknown man and his wife. That point is that a man was killed just to make it look like his wife’s death but also random.

Could this have been the same?

This is a strange case for sure and no telling where it will go but the guy sure acts of guilty in my police mind.

On a sidenote, the Walmart ice cream licker in Port Arthur was convicted of tampering with evidence after hundreds of such laws were enacted after the Tylenol murders. I wonder how many people today know that all of our tamperproof products and tampering with product laws came from a single incident in the early 1980s.

Posted
3 minutes ago, baddog said:

I did ask if charges had to be filed. 

I thought that’s what I answered. 

The police cannot question you whether you have had charges filed, you have been arrested or they simply want to without your consent. The 5A right to remain silent it’s not dependent on criminal charges.

Under Texas law, you do not have to speak with the police at all including not identifying yourself unless you were actually under arrest. The police can stop you with reasonable suspicion and start asking you questions including your name and you can simply stare at them legally. You are not obligated to even open your mouth.

Posted
20 minutes ago, tvc184 said:

I think he is acting extremely guilty. As far as not giving an alibi, most sidewalk lawyers and Facebook attorneys are now smart enough to simply not talk to the police. The alibi is what gets you hung. It locks you into a story that you probably cannot prove. Look at Martha Stewart. She went to prison for an insider stock trading scam. But did she go for the scam? No, she went because she gave an alibi and it was like a proven false and they got her for obstructing justice, perjury or whatever the FBI called it. 

Maybe he is not guilty but if your girlfriend was missing for 10 days and you had nothing to do with it, why not at least report her missing? If it’s the truth simply say she left on this day and I have not seen her again. You don’t have to say any more than that.

There are some very sinister people out there. The news article mentioned there was another couple murdered nearby a few days earlier. There is speculation that maybe Gabby  is also a victim of the same person(s). But let’s play what if…..

What is the boyfriend murdered that couple just to set up killing her later? Shoot a couple for no reason with a 9 mm and then come back a couple of weeks later and shoot your girlfriend near the same location, then get rid of the gun. The police recover slugs from all bodies and announce that whoever killed the couple also killed Gabby.

Do we remember while we now have secure packaging on most products and why we often now have caplets instead of capsules? It was the Tylenol murders in the early 1980s. Without the tamper proof packaging that we have today (which came about because of this incident), somebody took Tylenol and put cyanide inside the capsules and put them back on the shelf. Several people were killed and they suspected a man of doing it for extortion from Johnson and Johnson. Then another man using that idea, poisoned his wife and another unrelated man. I believe the unrelated man was killed simply to look like it was a random just like his wife. The man was eventually I believe convicted of killing the unknown man and his wife. That point is that a man was killed just to make it look like his wife’s death but also random.

Could this have been the same?

This is a strange case for sure and no telling where it will go but the guy sure acts of guilty in my police mind.

On a sidenote, the Walmart ice cream licker in Port Arthur was convicted of tampering with evidence after hundreds of such laws were enacted after the Tylenol murders. I wonder how many people today know that all of our tamperproof products and tampering with product laws came from a single incident in the early 1980s.

Thanks for that perspective.  I'm not sure why I'm not certain he is guilty.  I guess because he is acting SO guilty I think he may not be....like who is that stupid.....

Posted
3 minutes ago, thetragichippy said:

just tweeted from North Port Police: 
 

North Port Police are currently speaking with the Laundrie Family at their request. At this time, we are not speaking with Brian. More details when available.

They had a family get together and decided to give the police information (at their request which is the strange part) against Brian?

Posted
7 minutes ago, tvc184 said:

They had a family get together and decided to give the police information (at their request which is the strange part) against Brian?

Makes ZERO sense, unless there is something we are missing. This case has never made sense to me

Posted
19 minutes ago, thetragichippy said:

Makes ZERO sense, unless there is something we are missing. This case has never made sense to me

Again, there is no telling where this case is going.

But….. 

If the family called the police and said, “we need to talk”, it makes me think that they are not going to say, we don’t think our son did it. 

Posted
1 hour ago, tvc184 said:

Again, there is no telling where this case is going.

But….. 

If the family called the police and said, “we need to talk”, it makes me think that they are not going to say, we don’t think our son did it. 

Posted
49 minutes ago, thetragichippy said:

Welp……The conversation with the parents is over……a statement is coming

 

and Brian is now missing…..

They are now searching for both……

Like my old Cajun boss used to tell me, “I tol’ you, I tol’ you, I tol’ you!”.

Posted
4 minutes ago, thetragichippy said:

Why you were the cop and I was the Medic.....lol

Obviously we never really know what happened in these news media type cases because we don’t know what the police know. Most of the time even they don’t have all of the facts.

With that there is a lot of guesswork from just reading new stories and it’s easy to be completely wrong. But, almost 40 years of doing it as a profession, certainly helps. 

Posted
1 minute ago, tvc184 said:

Obviously we never really know what happened in these news media type cases because we don’t know what the police know. Most of the time even they don’t have all of the facts.

With that there is a lot of guesswork from just reading new stories and it’s easy to be completely wrong. But, almost 40 years of doing it as a profession, certainly helps. 

If he killed her, he makes a horrible criminal.....

He does not seem like a complete moron but sure did not try to act innocent.... 

Posted
8 minutes ago, tvc184 said:

Obviously we never really know what happened in these news media type cases because we don’t know what the police know. Most of the time even they don’t have all of the facts.

With that there is a lot of guesswork from just reading new stories and it’s easy to be completely wrong. But, almost 40 years of doing it as a profession, certainly helps. 

The latest statement from North Port Police......After speaking with family the dude has been missing since Tuesday.  North Port specifically stated that he is just a person of interest and not wanted for a crime. They also state they are not currently working a crime investigation, but a multiple missing person investigation.

North Park Police department via twitter is updating pretty often. 

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