12-5A-D2 Team Stats

[Cougar14.2]

12-5A-D2 stats though 8 games per the district statistician: 

DISTRICT 12-5A Division II

(District Overall)

School W-L-T Pct W-L-T Pct PF PA
Crosby 5-0-0 1.000 6-2-0 0.750 384 224
Texas City 4-1-0 0.800 7-1-0 0.875 280 108
Nederland 3-2-0 0.600 6-2-0 0.750 236 168
Port Neches-Groves 3-2-0 0.600 5-3-0 0.625 263 283
Mont Belvieu Barbers Hill 3-2-0 0.600 4-4-0 0.500 345 280
Dayton 1-4-0 0.200 2-6-0 0.250 217 280
Humble Kingwood Park 1-4-0 0.200 2-6-0 0.250 198 321
Santa Fe 0-5-0 0.000 0-8-0 0.000 30 344

 

TEAM OFFENSE GM RUSHING PASSING TOTAL AVG
Mont Belvieu Barbers Hill 8 2027 2088 4115 514.38
Crosby 8 1793 1707 3500 437.50
Port Neches-Groves 8 1526 1659 3185 398.13
Texas City 8 1782 1141 2923 365.38
Dayton 8 979 1853 2832 354.00
Nederland 8 1264 1363 2627 328.38
Humble Kingwood Park 8 1097 1230 2327 290.88
Santa Fe 8 617 595 1212 151.50

 

TEAM DEFENSE GM RUSHING PASSING TOTAL AVG
Texas City 8 597 855 1452 181.50
Nederland 8 1053 1308 2361 295.13
Dayton 8 1616 1165 2781 347.63
Crosby 8 1016 1768 2784 348.00
Port Neches-Groves 8 1280 1576 2856 357.00
Santa Fe 8 1634 1306 2940 367.50
Mont Belvieu Barbers Hill 8 1100 1961 3061 382.63
Humble Kingwood Park 8 2135 1631 3766 470.75

[BHFAN]

Good lord if we could just have a middle of the road Defense!  You don’t see that very often, best Offense and 2nd worse defense.    Can we play PNG again?

[Cougar14.2]

4 hours ago, BHFAN said:

Good lord if we could just have a middle of the road Defense!  You don’t see that very often, best Offense and 2nd worse defense.    Can we play PNG again?

I don’t think BH has a better offense than Crosby which is why Crosby averages more points on the season and has scored more against every common opponent so far. BH plays their starters longer because their defense is worse and they play on longer fields, therefore they need to gain more yards to score similar points. Crosby’s offense has been more efficient this year. 
 

[BHFAN]

10 hours ago, Cougar14.2 said:

I don’t think BH has a better offense than Crosby which is why Crosby averages more points on the season and has scored more against every common opponent so far. BH plays their starters longer because their defense is worse and they play on longer fields, therefore they need to gain more yards to score similar points. Crosby’s offense has been more efficient this year. 
 

Yeah I beg to differ. BH has had plenty of back up play. We had our starters in only through Paetow, PAM & Crosby while the rest of the games backups entered the game 2nd half except for PNG where starting QB and RB was out most of 4 Th quarter. Sante Fe game we had back ups the whole game. Crosby played starters the whole game against Carthage, Manvel & BH. Throw in the fact that we started the year with a whole new coaching staff that arrived mid summer and I’ll take that bet that BH has the best O in district. If we showed any discipline we would be sitting where Crosby is right now. 

[Cougtalk]

1 hour ago, BHFAN said:

Yeah I beg to differ. BH has had plenty of back up play. We had our starters in only through Paetow, PAM & Crosby while the rest of the games backups entered the game 2nd half except for PNG where starting QB and RB was out most of 4 Th quarter. Sante Fe game we had back ups the whole game. Crosby played starters the whole game against Carthage, Manvel & BH. Throw in the fact that we started the year with a whole new coaching staff that arrived mid summer and I’ll take that bet that BH has the best O in district. If we showed any discipline we would be sitting where Crosby is right now. 

Your offense is very good. I think it lacks some of the finishers Crosby has. That's seen in the point differentials, and game result between the two. 

[Cougar14.2]

1 hour ago, BHFAN said:

Yeah I beg to differ. BH has had plenty of back up play. We had our starters in only through Paetow, PAM & Crosby while the rest of the games backups entered the game 2nd half except for PNG where starting QB and RB was out most of 4 Th quarter. Sante Fe game we had back ups the whole game. Crosby played starters the whole game against Carthage, Manvel & BH. Throw in the fact that we started the year with a whole new coaching staff that arrived mid summer and I’ll take that bet that BH has the best O in district. If we showed any discipline we would be sitting where Crosby is right now. 

Y'all had to put the starters back in on KP and only won by 14 while scoring 41 points. Crosby had 46 at the half and was playing backups in the second quarter, scored 67. Dayton was 49-3 at the half, let's see what y'all have at the half Friday. TC was 36-7 at the half and 50-13 after three quarters. Y'all only scored 28 on PAM. Y'all scored 35 on PNG, Crosby started playing some backups in the second quarter and still scored 69, should've been 76 but we coughed it up at their 4 yardline. Hagler and Holdren ain't worth 35 points in one quarter. You did't play backups the whole game against Santa Fe, Fuentes started because Holdren was suspended for a half but all of your other starters started. I see the stats they registered. 

Crosby has dropped 50+ every game in district compared to only twice for BH. Even with Carthage and Manvel on the schedule Crosby is still going to average over 50ppg this year once we get to play against Santa Fe and Nederland's defenses. All you really have to do to answer the question is ask our common opponents which offense they would rather line up against? 

[Cougtalk]

1 minute ago, Cougar14.2 said:

Y'all had to put the starters back in on KP and only won by 14 while scoring 41 points. Crosby had 46 at the half and was playing backups in the second quarter. Dayton was 49-3 at the half, let's see what y'all have at the half Friday. TC was 36-7 at the half and 50-13 after three quarters. Y'all only scored 28 on PAM. Y'all scored 35 on PNG, Crosby started playing some backups in the second quarter and still scored 69, should've been 76 but we coughed it up at their 4 yardline. Hagler and Holdren ain't worth 35 points in one quarter. You did't play backups the whole game against Santa Fe, Fuentes started because Holdren was suspended for a half but all of your other starters started. I see the stats they registered. 

Crosby has dropped 50+ every game in district compared to only twice for BH. Even with Carthage and Manvel on the schedule Crosby is still going to average over 50ppg this year once we get to play against Santa Fe and Nederland's defenses. All you really have to do to answer the question is ask our common opponents which offense they would rather line up against? 

It helps to generally have the top 2 players on the field every game Kirkwood and Miles are a dynamic duo that people will need to figure out to beat this Crosby team. We aren't just overthrowing receivers by 15 yards like we did in the first three games. 

[BHFAN]

4 minutes ago, Cougar14.2 said:

Y'all had to put the starters back in on KP and only won by 14 while scoring 41 points. Crosby had 46 at the half and was playing backups in the second quarter, scored 67. Dayton was 49-3 at the half, let's see what y'all have at the half Friday. TC was 36-7 at the half and 50-13 after three quarters. Y'all only scored 28 on PAM. Y'all scored 35 on PNG, Crosby started playing some backups in the second quarter and still scored 69, should've been 76 but we coughed it up at their 4 yardline. Hagler and Holdren ain't worth 35 points in one quarter. You did't play backups the whole game against Santa Fe, Fuentes started because Holdren was suspended for a half but all of your other starters started. I see the stats they registered. 

Crosby has dropped 50+ every game in district compared to only twice for BH. Even with Carthage and Manvel on the schedule Crosby is still going to average over 50ppg this year once we get to play against Santa Fe and Nederland's defenses. All you really have to do to answer the question is ask our common opponents which offense they would rather line up against? 

Wrong again. Starters went back in against KWP for one drive then came back out. Sante Fe the back up QB played with starting offense the 1st half then Holdren played part of the 2 nd half with 2nd O then the 3rd and 4th teamers finished the game. Points don’t determine the best offense as you may have more opportunities due to turnovers, short field etc. BH has the best skill positions in district statistically almost across the board.  

[Cougar14.2]

1 minute ago, BHFAN said:

Wrong again. Starters went back in against KWP for one drive then came back out. Sante Fe the back up QB played with starting offense the 1st half then Holdren played part of the 2 nd half with 2nd O then the 3rd and 4th teamers finished the game. Points don’t determine the best offense as you may have more opportunities due to turnovers, short field etc. BH has the best skill positions in district statistically almost across the board.  

Like you said, you put the starters back in because they didn't score enough points initially to put it away. Ok, so yards win games now and not points? As far as the best positions statistically though: 

Myles has 140 passing attempts, 20 passing tds against only two picks, averages 17.7 yards per completion and has 12 rushing tds on the season to go with it. Holdren has 202 passing attempts, 20 passing tds against 7 picks, averages 15.5 per completion and has 6 rushing tds. That's with Holdren play a lot more snaps than Myles too. Every coach in the district would take Myles over Holdren if given a choice.

Hagler has 138 attempts for 931 and 11 tds. Jones has 112 attempts for 718 and 10tds. You can say advantage BH here but Hagler has played more and there's not a single coach in the district who's taking him over Jones if given the choice. 

Herndon has 25 catches for 660 and 13 tds. Kirkwood has 39 for 787 and 11tds but is the much more dynamic player. Dixon has 14 for 411 and 2tds, Womack has 22 for 405 and 7tds. You may have an argument for some coaches taking Herndon over Kirkwood but Herndon is basically a one trick pony with the deep ball, Kirkwood runs every route on the tree. 

BH has run 574 offensive plays and averages 7.3 per play while Crosby has run 466 offensive plays and average 7.4 per snap. To my point about BH starters playing more snaps, Kirkwood and Jones aren't even playing this week. At what skill position would you say BH is better than Crosby? 

[Cougtalk]

17 minutes ago, BHFAN said:

Wrong again. Starters went back in against KWP for one drive then came back out. Sante Fe the back up QB played with starting offense the 1st half then Holdren played part of the 2 nd half with 2nd O then the 3rd and 4th teamers finished the game. Points don’t determine the best offense as you may have more opportunities due to turnovers, short field etc. BH has the best skill positions in district statistically almost across the board.  

Crosby has 108 less offensive plays than Barbers Hill and has scored the same number of TD's. 

So either your offense lacks explosiveness, or you have played substantially more offensive snaps because of a bad defense. 

[BHFAN]

45 minutes ago, Cougar14.2 said:

Like you said, you put the starters back in because they didn't score enough points initially to put it away. Ok, so yards win games now and not points? As far as the best positions statistically though: 

Myles has 140 passing attempts, 20 passing tds against only two picks, averages 17.7 yards per completion and has 12 rushing tds on the season to go with it. Holdren has 202 passing attempts, 20 passing tds against 7 picks, averages 15.5 per completion and has 6 rushing tds. That's with Holdren play a lot more snaps than Myles too. Every coach in the district would take Myles over Holdren if given a choice.

Hagler has 138 attempts for 931 and 11 tds. Jones has 112 attempts for 718 and 10tds. You can say advantage BH here but Hagler has played more and there's not a single coach in the district who's taking him over Jones if given the choice. 

Herndon has 25 catches for 660 and 13 tds. Kirkwood has 39 for 787 and 11tds but is the much more dynamic player. Dixon has 14 for 411 and 2tds, Womack has 22 for 405 and 7tds. You may have an argument for some coaches taking Herndon over Kirkwood but Herndon is basically a one trick pony with the deep ball, Kirkwood runs every route on the tree. 

BH has run 574 offensive plays and averages 7.3 per play while Crosby has run 466 offensive plays and average 7.4 per snap. To my point about BH starters playing more snaps, Kirkwood and Jones aren't even playing this week. At what skill position would you say BH is better than Crosby? 

All of them😎

[BHFAN]

Really all I have to do is go back to the BH / Crosby game to see what Crosby did against the worst Defense in the District Vs what we did Vs one of the better Defenses in the district. You scored more that game as well, but wasn’t the better team. (14.2 digging for more stats while implementing the fluke theory)  😃  

[Cougtalk]

32 minutes ago, BHFAN said:

Really all I have to do is go back to the BH / Crosby game to see what Crosby did against the worst Defense in the District Vs what we did Vs one of the better Defenses in the district. You scored more that game as well, but wasn’t the better team. (14.2 digging for more stats while implementing the fluke theory)  😃  

TBF "statistically" we are the 4th best defense. 

[Cougar14.2]

30 minutes ago, BHFAN said:

Really all I have to do is go back to the BH / Crosby game to see what Crosby did against the worst Defense in the District Vs what we did Vs one of the better Defenses in the district. You scored more that game as well, but wasn’t the better team. (14.2 digging for more stats while implementing the fluke theory)  😃  

Lol, y'all had a great night. Why were y'all down to PNG at the half the very next week while Crosby was up 35 though? If it wasn't a fluke Crosby wouldn't be currently doubling BH's average margin of victory in district play. No stats needed, just the eyeball test.