Huffman Hargrave

[Huffman Hargrave Falcons72]

I Love my Falcons, believe me I feel good when the boys do well and are awarded for this hard work. But Kids are cherry picked (not all) some have to work extra hard to show coaches, we’re as some are molded by coaches.  All boys work very hard this isn’t bought the kids.  It’s about talent that don’t even get the chance, or give up cause they get shamed for things going on in their personal lives that the coaches don’t know about, don’t wanna know about, or just don’t feel like it’s worth it.  And you know what I’m ok with that. Just tell the kid or his parents so they can move on my first son at Hargrave received this treatment starting fresh year.  He cry wanted to quit, even tried baseball, but it was more of the same.  We dedicated every waking moment from mid sophomore year till senior year working learning cause if he was the best how could he not make varsity.  He did but IMO he should of started, but no complaints here he played a lot. So senior year comes and my boy ( the one that would of been giving up on by our coaches) started all year and both ways for a lot of games.  End of year all district DL, academic All district, and a football scholarship in a small school in Missouri (that I help him get) not his coaches.  Not saying they didn’t do things fir my boys I’m sure they have and I’m sure they mean well, but my other son has talent more than the oldest one I just told u about.  He’s a little different but gifted somehow they don’t see it.  I’m not one to have blinders on when kids are involved.  If my kid had no potential I would say.  All in all I think HH has plenty of talent going through, but the playing field isn’t level.  Status, money, personal relationship, should not get in the way of business.   Best kid should play bottom line.   

[Tiger33]

24 minutes ago, Huffman Hargrave Falcons72 said:

I Love my Falcons, believe me I feel good when the boys do well and are awarded for this hard work. But Kids are cherry picked (not all) some have to work extra hard to show coaches, we’re as some are molded by coaches.  All boys work very hard this isn’t bought the kids.  It’s about talent that don’t even get the chance, or give up cause they get shamed for things going on in their personal lives that the coaches don’t know about, don’t wanna know about, or just don’t feel like it’s worth it.  And you know what I’m ok with that. Just tell the kid or his parents so they can move on my first son at Hargrave received this treatment starting fresh year.  He cry wanted to quit, even tried baseball, but it was more of the same.  We dedicated every waking moment from mid sophomore year till senior year working learning cause if he was the best how could he not make varsity.  He did but IMO he should of started, but no complaints here he played a lot. So senior year comes and my boy ( the one that would of been giving up on by our coaches) started all year and both ways for a lot of games.  End of year all district DL, academic All district, and a football scholarship in a small school in Missouri (that I help him get) not his coaches.  Not saying they didn’t do things fir my boys I’m sure they have and I’m sure they mean well, but my other son has talent more than the oldest one I just told u about.  He’s a little different but gifted somehow they don’t see it.  I’m not one to have blinders on when kids are involved.  If my kid had no potential I would say.  All in all I think HH has plenty of talent going through, but the playing field isn’t level.  Status, money, personal relationship, should not get in the way of business.   Best kid should play bottom line.   

HH coach is a member he will get the message. I don’t know much about HH. But I think everyone should have to earn there spot. Good luck In the playoffs. 

[Hagar]

A problem not unique to HH.  One even more prevalent in many smaller schools in East Texas.  Unfortunately, probably goes on in most schools.

[Bluffy]

I would be willing to bet I could find hundreds of former HH athletes, and parents of HH athletes that would say the exact opposite of your post. Similar to life, there is nothing about athletics that is “fare.” Don’t point fingers. Talk to your son. Schedule a meeting. Hopefully y’all can get on same page with coaching staff. Airing your complaints on a public forum, does no good for anyone involved. I hate you feel your athlete is being wronged, however there is much more to life than HS athletics. Learning life lessons from a difficult circumstance could pay to be much greater in life than HS playtime. I hope your situations get resolved, and best of luck to you, your son, and HH.  

[TrojanWarrior08]

As a former district opponent (and believe me we've seen a lot of Coldspring vs Huffman many times for the district championship) I got to say I'm rooting for yall 100% of the way... Please get it done in the first round and beyond

[LTFALCON]

🤯Well nothing  like airing out frustration on SETX message board. If you had issues with the staff, should have been discussed privately with HC and AD. Sorry your child is going through some tough times, but bringing up 2 boys through their program, I cant say I have experienced any of that with this staff. You ask both of my kids, they will reflect back and say nothing but good about their HS coaches at HH. Good luck with you and your sons issues.

[oldman]

16 hours ago, Huffman Hargrave Falcons72 said:

I Love my Falcons, believe me I feel good when the boys do well and are awarded for this hard work. But Kids are cherry picked (not all) some have to work extra hard to show coaches, we’re as some are molded by coaches.  All boys work very hard this isn’t bought the kids.  It’s about talent that don’t even get the chance, or give up cause they get shamed for things going on in their personal lives that the coaches don’t know about, don’t wanna know about, or just don’t feel like it’s worth it.  And you know what I’m ok with that. Just tell the kid or his parents so they can move on my first son at Hargrave received this treatment starting fresh year.  He cry wanted to quit, even tried baseball, but it was more of the same.  We dedicated every waking moment from mid sophomore year till senior year working learning cause if he was the best how could he not make varsity.  He did but IMO he should of started, but no complaints here he played a lot. So senior year comes and my boy ( the one that would of been giving up on by our coaches) started all year and both ways for a lot of games.  End of year all district DL, academic All district, and a football scholarship in a small school in Missouri (that I help him get) not his coaches.  Not saying they didn’t do things fir my boys I’m sure they have and I’m sure they mean well, but my other son has talent more than the oldest one I just told u about.  He’s a little different but gifted somehow they don’t see it.  I’m not one to have blinders on when kids are involved.  If my kid had no potential I would say.  All in all I think HH has plenty of talent going through, but the playing field isn’t level.  Status, money, personal relationship, should not get in the way of business.   Best kid should play bottom line.   

Disgruntled Parent section needs to be created.

Ridiculous 🙄

[HurricaneCal]

3 hours ago, LTFALCON said:

🤯Well nothing  like airing out frustration on SETX message board. If you had issues with the staff, should have been discussed privately with HC and AD. Sorry your child is going through some tough times, but bringing up 2 boys through their program, I cant say I have experienced any of that with this staff. You ask both of my kids, they will reflect back and say nothing but good about their HS coaches at HH. Good luck with you and your sons issues.

You got money or status?

[LTFALCON]

20 hours ago, CougarCal said:

You got money or status?

Neither to be honest. Don't live in the Commons. Not on booster club. Don't go up to watch football practices. Don't send emails cuz little Johnny isn't playing like Dad thinks he should. Ummm ya so Mr. CougarCal........I don't have money and I don't have status. But what I do have is 2 kids that went through the HH program and played next level. 

[scat_trap]

On 11/6/2021 at 4:55 PM, Huffman Hargrave Falcons72 said:

I Love my Falcons, believe me I feel good when the boys do well and are awarded for this hard work. But Kids are cherry picked (not all) some have to work extra hard to show coaches, we’re as some are molded by coaches.  All boys work very hard this isn’t bought the kids.  It’s about talent that don’t even get the chance, or give up cause they get shamed for things going on in their personal lives that the coaches don’t know about, don’t wanna know about, or just don’t feel like it’s worth it.  And you know what I’m ok with that. Just tell the kid or his parents so they can move on my first son at Hargrave received this treatment starting fresh year.  He cry wanted to quit, even tried baseball, but it was more of the same.  We dedicated every waking moment from mid sophomore year till senior year working learning cause if he was the best how could he not make varsity.  He did but IMO he should of started, but no complaints here he played a lot. So senior year comes and my boy ( the one that would of been giving up on by our coaches) started all year and both ways for a lot of games.  End of year all district DL, academic All district, and a football scholarship in a small school in Missouri (that I help him get) not his coaches.  Not saying they didn’t do things fir my boys I’m sure they have and I’m sure they mean well, but my other son has talent more than the oldest one I just told u about.  He’s a little different but gifted somehow they don’t see it.  I’m not one to have blinders on when kids are involved.  If my kid had no potential I would say.  All in all I think HH has plenty of talent going through, but the playing field isn’t level.  Status, money, personal relationship, should not get in the way of business.   Best kid should play bottom line.   

That was a tough read and not because of content...

Not every kid is going to get treated the same and preferential treatment definitely happens.  Some kids get a 1st and 2nd shot over a lot of kids because they're there and putting in the work (look at your oldest son).  I would also say the coaching staff has at least 100 other kids they're trying to evaluate, put in the right position, and monitor academically so sometimes kids fall through the cracks.  I've seen places where it's obvious the superintendent's/school board president's/booster club's/Baptist preacher's kid gets playing time over everyone else because of how political situations can be, but Huffman, I've thought, hasn't been that way AS BAD as some other places.

I've always been taught the best ability is dependability and sometimes with more talented kids (or kids that have "potential") they think their natural ability should make up for the lack of accountability, preparation, or execution.

You didn't post the other side about your younger son but when I see a parent rant on a social media platform in the way you have my 1st question is going to be "what kind of dedication does your son have?"  If it's spotty do you really think thrusting him into a position over others who have been dedicated is the right way to build a team/program?  Also, what is that teaching your son in the long run?  I'm only assuming because of what I've seen in the past but you never did specify what your younger son's work ethic is like.  My take would be to go meet with the coach directly in charge of him and ask what he has to do to get better and get more playing time (again, I don't know if you've done that but you definitely haven't given any inclination that you have).

I hope your rant helps you out and I'm pretty sure if the Huffman coaches are reading what you posted they probably know who you are.  I don't think going after people on a platform behind a screen name is the right way to address an issue and I can only assume what you're saying in and around the community that causes division.

[SmashMouth]

I thought Powerlifter might have had some input on his post. Lol. 

[2wedge]

On 11/6/2021 at 4:55 PM, Huffman Hargrave Falcons72 said:

I Love my Falcons, believe me I feel good when the boys do well and are awarded for this hard work. But Kids are cherry picked (not all) some have to work extra hard to show coaches, we’re as some are molded by coaches.  All boys work very hard this isn’t bought the kids.  It’s about talent that don’t even get the chance, or give up cause they get shamed for things going on in their personal lives that the coaches don’t know about, don’t wanna know about, or just don’t feel like it’s worth it.  And you know what I’m ok with that. Just tell the kid or his parents so they can move on my first son at Hargrave received this treatment starting fresh year.  He cry wanted to quit, even tried baseball, but it was more of the same.  We dedicated every waking moment from mid sophomore year till senior year working learning cause if he was the best how could he not make varsity.  He did but IMO he should of started, but no complaints here he played a lot. So senior year comes and my boy ( the one that would of been giving up on by our coaches) started all year and both ways for a lot of games.  End of year all district DL, academic All district, and a football scholarship in a small school in Missouri (that I help him get) not his coaches.  Not saying they didn’t do things fir my boys I’m sure they have and I’m sure they mean well, but my other son has talent more than the oldest one I just told u about.  He’s a little different but gifted somehow they don’t see it.  I’m not one to have blinders on when kids are involved.  If my kid had no potential I would say.  All in all I think HH has plenty of talent going through, but the playing field isn’t level.  Status, money, personal relationship, should not get in the way of business.   Best kid should play bottom line.   

This line of thinking is exactly what has created the downturn in society over the past several decades. Parents never pushing their kids to take personal responsibility for their choices or their role in bad situations. Even if all of what you said is true, your teaching your son to lay down and cry when things aren't fair. That's not a life lesson that will serve him well. I highly doubt Mac's staff would have lasted as long as it has had he run his program this way. 

[Cougar14.2]

2 hours ago, 2wedge said:

This line of thinking is exactly what has created the downturn in society over the past several decades. Parents never pushing their kids to take personal responsibility for their choices or their role in bad situations. Even if all of what you said is true, your teaching your son to lay down and cry when things aren't fair. That's not a life lesson that will serve him well. I highly doubt Mac's staff would have lasted as long as it has had he run his program this way. 

That line of thinking has been there since football was created. The issue is that now there are multiple platforms for parents to air those grievances. You give a parent a place to rant and all of a sudden their personal opinion becomes a theory after two or three more parents, who may have never given much thought to the issue, latch on and agree with them. Now one parent's opinion has turned into 20 people talking about it in the stands. 

Parent's opinions are the absolute last thing that should have an influence on personnel which is why I've never talked to any of the school Crosby my three sons have played for to date. Hell, I ran our coach down and he still put my son on varsity after breaking his leg and missing his whole freshman year. That being said, I don't think you put your kid in that situation by airing that here but if there's even an inkling of truth to what he's saying then he's probably not going to get very far with a 1on1 meeting with the coach. 

My personal opinion on the situation is right in line with yours though. I don't believe a coach would take food out of his family's mouths and get fired by not playing kids who could help him win, but I also don't believe every parent who has this issue is making a false accusation either.  

[89Falcon]

On 11/6/2021 at 4:55 PM, Huffman Hargrave Falcons72 said:

I Love my Falcons, believe me I feel good when the boys do well and are awarded for this hard work. But Kids are cherry picked (not all) some have to work extra hard to show coaches, we’re as some are molded by coaches.  All boys work very hard this isn’t bought the kids.  It’s about talent that don’t even get the chance, or give up cause they get shamed for things going on in their personal lives that the coaches don’t know about, don’t wanna know about, or just don’t feel like it’s worth it.  And you know what I’m ok with that. Just tell the kid or his parents so they can move on my first son at Hargrave received this treatment starting fresh year.  He cry wanted to quit, even tried baseball, but it was more of the same.  We dedicated every waking moment from mid sophomore year till senior year working learning cause if he was the best how could he not make varsity.  He did but IMO he should of started, but no complaints here he played a lot. So senior year comes and my boy ( the one that would of been giving up on by our coaches) started all year and both ways for a lot of games.  End of year all district DL, academic All district, and a football scholarship in a small school in Missouri (that I help him get) not his coaches.  Not saying they didn’t do things fir my boys I’m sure they have and I’m sure they mean well, but my other son has talent more than the oldest one I just told u about.  He’s a little different but gifted somehow they don’t see it.  I’m not one to have blinders on when kids are involved.  If my kid had no potential I would say.  All in all I think HH has plenty of talent going through, but the playing field isn’t level.  Status, money, personal relationship, should not get in the way of business.   Best kid should play bottom line.   

Why dont you write a paragraph using "run on" sentences with "incoherent" vocabulary? The HH coaches could then be enlightened.