aTmfan06 Posted February 8, 2022 Report Posted February 8, 2022 2 minutes ago, whsalum said: I have only saw this once in my lifetime and it was at a little dribblers tournament many years ago. I saw it in 2004 Kountze vs Orangefield Quote
AggiesAreWe Posted February 8, 2022 Report Posted February 8, 2022 29 minutes ago, 5GallonBucket said: I’m not saying he would have but if he had the lead and did that and won then what would people be saying. whether you agree or not it was a different tactic that I’m sure silsbee has never seen…. Key part, having the lead. I never have issue with a coach that has a lead and forces the other team to play a defense that they would not have played. It's why I hope we never get a shot clock. Quote
JimThorpe Posted February 8, 2022 Report Posted February 8, 2022 The National Federation of State High School Associations at its April meeting approved a 35-second shot clock for use beginning in the 2022-23 season. California, Maryland, Massachusetts, New York, North Dakota, Rhode Island, South Dakota, and Washington already have it. It's time for Texas to begin a pilot program and then proceed with a phased implementation. Start with 40 seconds, which is an eternity really. The cost would be less than $10,000 per gym for very nice systems. Cooperative packages could reduce that cost significantly. If a vendor knows he's got 8 or 15 or 20 gyms to do one after the other, one vehicle operating from a single hotel for several weeks, he's going to give a good price. You need a trained official to run the clock, but he doesn't have to have the skill set of the guys on the court. So you're looking at $75 a game, 15 games max, that's less than $1200 per season for a given school. All the college and arena venues where playoffs and tournaments are held already have the equipment. Being a Tigers fan it's kind of a moot point. They could live with a 10 second shot clock. But I think almost all the kids would love it. It would add a little extra drama to each possession. It's second nature at the college level. The only problem is that it's about to take off nationally and supply chain could become a thing! BayouB 1 Quote
The Observer Posted February 8, 2022 Report Posted February 8, 2022 1 hour ago, LCMAlumtiger32 said: That’s embarrassing. I honestly hope the players parents don’t think this was good idea. You play to win the game. i’m parent of #10 i don’t like Lumberton stalling but they not only ones i hated it when LCM stalked against Lumberton with both tv news teams there looking for game of the week and they stalling play rock/paper/sissors and i really hated it when i was OF player and we did it entire game BUT there is no rule saying you can’t stall - and that is a coaching choice so i guess until rule change we will continue to not like it but accept it as a coaching strategy BayouB 1 Quote
AggiesAreWe Posted February 8, 2022 Report Posted February 8, 2022 I am a staunch proponent of no shot clock. I like the fact that coaches have a vast supply of strategies (minus the one used last Friday in Lumberton) to enable his/her team the best chance to be successful. You wouldn't have that with a shot clock. I see it at the college and pro level. It's all pretty much the same. Not all teams have the personnel to "run and gun" like others have. Slow down ball does not bother me one bit. I like having the diversity. Quote
The Observer Posted February 8, 2022 Report Posted February 8, 2022 1 hour ago, AggiesAreWe said: How do you win a game down by 10 and holding the ball in that manner? i played for OF. back in - way back - early 80s stalked on SFA - they were ranked - and it flustered them - OF won 26-24 in dbl OT now i as player would rather lost than stall but i wasn’t coach Quote
AggiesAreWe Posted February 8, 2022 Report Posted February 8, 2022 Just now, The Observer said: i played for OF. back in - way back - early 80s stalked on SFA - they were ranked - and it flustered them - OF won 26-24 in dbl OT now i as player would rather lost than stall but i wasn’t coach I am betting Orangefield was never down by 10+ to SFA when they were stalling. Quote
The Observer Posted February 8, 2022 Report Posted February 8, 2022 1 minute ago, AggiesAreWe said: I am betting Orangefield was never down by 10+ to SFA when they were stalling. no that’s true - SFA got tip scored 2 and then we went into stall- LOL we could only shoot if we get a lay up Quote
The Observer Posted February 8, 2022 Report Posted February 8, 2022 Just now, The Observer said: no that’s true - SFA got tip scored 2 and then we went into stall- LOL we could only shoot if we get a lay up there coach said F it - stayed in zone - and long game Quote
Tiger33 Posted February 8, 2022 Report Posted February 8, 2022 8 minutes ago, The Observer said: i’m parent of #10 i don’t like Lumberton stalling but they not only ones i hated it when LCM stalked against Lumberton with both tv news teams there looking for game of the week and they stalling play rock/paper/sissors and i really hated it when i was OF player and we did it entire game BUT there is no rule saying you can’t stall - and that is a coaching choice so i guess until rule change we will continue to not like it but accept it as a coaching strategy I could see stalling the ball by passing it back and forth atleast it looks like your doing something. But the whole huddle thing. LCM huddled up like that? When Coach Harley was at LCM they played stall ball the whole game. The whole stall ball thing kind of reminds me of Vidor’s slot T offense 😂 Quote
ST413 Posted February 8, 2022 Report Posted February 8, 2022 2 hours ago, AggiesAreWe said: and had one of his players not step out of bounds, get fouled, get a 5 second call and tied up during the 3-4 times they tried this stunt, it would have certainly lasted more than 3 minutes. Game was 5-2 Silsbee at that point but those turnovers resulted in a 12-2 Silsbee lead. Kind of hard to try and do it again trailing by 10. One would really look silly. Kinda like you, keyboard warrior. I believe He did try it in the second half once or twice… Quote
BADSANTA Posted February 9, 2022 Report Posted February 9, 2022 Lumberton made themselves look weak. That certainly isn't basketball. The coach would have had more respect if he just played the game. Run your plays and take open shots. Quote
STiger85 Posted February 9, 2022 Report Posted February 9, 2022 4 hours ago, GronkIfYourHorne said: Was Silsbee worried about getting beat on their home court last year for the district championship? You probably "where" not worried about your 1st grade spelling test either? You played our freshman/JV team. Silsbee's varsity was in quarantine until the day before that game, in fact only a few varsity players was able to play that game. That pandemic played havoc. You are in need of some education. Quote
The Observer Posted February 9, 2022 Report Posted February 9, 2022 1 hour ago, LCMAlumtiger32 said: I could see stalling the ball by passing it back and forth atleast it looks like your doing something. But the whole huddle thing. LCM huddled up like that? When Coach Harley was at LCM they played stall ball the whole game. The whole stall ball thing kind of reminds me of Vidor’s slot T offense 😂 no they did like two kids in one corner playing rock/paper/sissors, 2 kids standing on same side at other corner and Lum just sit back and watch i think LCM might been up like 8-4 Quote
The Observer Posted February 9, 2022 Report Posted February 9, 2022 Just now, The Observer said: no they did like two kids in one corner playing rock/paper/sissors, 2 kids standing on same side at other corner and Lum just sit back and watch i think LCM might been up like 8-4 i was confused why LCM started stalling they pressed and scored quick then never pressed again Quote
Tiger33 Posted February 9, 2022 Report Posted February 9, 2022 1 minute ago, The Observer said: no they did like two kids in one corner playing rock/paper/sissors, 2 kids standing on same side at other corner and Lum just sit back and watch i think LCM might been up like 8-4 Yea that’s embarrassing too. One of the few reasons why I left LCM. Maybe Peevy will make a coaching change since that’s a Crouch hire Quote
raideroldtimer Posted February 9, 2022 Report Posted February 9, 2022 Simple fix, crowd them until he gets pushed out of bounds or if someone can reach in get their hands on the ball, that way if one of our players swats the Tiger players hands then he'll be called for a foul. At any rate, as a life long Raiders fan, THIS IS BS! DXTR and bullets13 2 Quote
TxHoops Posted February 9, 2022 Report Posted February 9, 2022 That was terrible. Sorry. Not basketball in any sense of the word. And I agree with AAW re shot clocks in HS basketball. I am a huge fan of the shot clock in high level basketball. But we never get Milan, IN (team Hoosiers was based upon) if they had a shot clock. For a multitude of reasons, it’s a bad idea for high schools with the exception of the Grind Session and other national leagues. bullets13 1 Quote
bullets13 Posted February 9, 2022 Report Posted February 9, 2022 3 hours ago, The Observer said: no that’s true - SFA got tip scored 2 and then we went into stall- LOL we could only shoot if we get a lay up Hard to get layups when you’re in a football huddle linking arms out beyond the volleyball line. Sounds like y’all at least moved the ball around some. Quote
BayouB Posted February 9, 2022 Report Posted February 9, 2022 Simple fix. Outlaw all stall ball with a shot clock. Quote
TxHoops Posted February 9, 2022 Report Posted February 9, 2022 “Red rover, red rover send Harris on over!” Stay tuned to the next Lumberton game when they will unveil the hardwood version of Duck, Duck, Goose. bullets13 and DXTR 1 1 Quote
The Observer Posted February 9, 2022 Report Posted February 9, 2022 3 hours ago, LCMAlumtiger32 said: Yea that’s embarrassing too. One of the few reasons why I left LCM. Maybe Peevy will make a coaching change since that’s a Crouch hire peevy can be heard when announcing game lol i grad with his dad at OF Quote
The Observer Posted February 9, 2022 Report Posted February 9, 2022 1 hour ago, bullets13 said: Hard to get layups when you’re in a football huddle linking arms out beyond the volleyball line. Sounds like y’all at least moved the ball around some. yes lol we ran good ole 4 corners bullets13 1 Quote
Who That Posted February 9, 2022 Report Posted February 9, 2022 This is the most inbarasing thing I've ever seen in a High School Basketball game.! Lumberton is a bunch of 🧁's ..!👀😂🤣🐅🏀 Quote
Broncos2447 Posted February 10, 2022 Report Posted February 10, 2022 In my opinion , you hurt the kids as if Lumberton has any scouts or colleges looking at them, you don't anymore. As a coach, you play to compete, and you try to make them as successful as possible, including, getting them into college. Quote
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