4A State Championship Game, HJ vs Brownsboro/BB 50 HJ 49

[Go-rilla]

BH had multiple D1 players in the 1990's and won 1 state championship. Its hard to win state. BH had kendal shaw (Vanderbilt) and lost in 4a semi finals. BH lost in Semis with collier to Canyon. Dont know how many WNBA players Canyon had that year. My point is winning state aint easy. Look at all the free throws Brownsboro missed down the stretch to make it interesting. HJ was sloppy with the BB and it cost them. Stop blaming the coach. You'd be praising him if they made 2 more points.

[KPBall]

15 minutes ago, Go-rilla said:

BH had multiple D1 players in the 1990's and won 1 state championship. Its hard to win state. BH had kendal shaw (Vanderbilt) and lost in 4a semi finals. BH lost in Semis with collier to Canyon. Dont know how many WNBA players Canyon had that year. My point is winning state aint easy. Look at all the free throws Brownsboro missed down the stretch to make it interesting. HJ was sloppy with the BB and it cost them. Stop blaming the coach. You'd be praising him if they made 2 more points.

Yes, it’s hard to win State, no doubt. Never said it’s easy. Also, considering Barbers Hill and all the talent they’ve had, was at a different level. The difference In 4A and 5A statewide is astronomical. You can have 3 D1 players in 5A and just be top 10 in talent. In 4A, it’s rare to have 3 D1 players, much less an All American and 2 other D1 players. It’s completely different. As far as coaching, I’m not totally blaming Fogo. I actually think he’s a very solid coach who’s built a great program at HJ, kudos to him for that, I certainly can’t do what he does. BUT, to your point, it’s hard to win State. 99% of coaches will never win State, whether that’s due to not having talent or running up against a better coach. Sorry, but I think Fogo is in the latter category. He’s a very good coach, but not good enough to win State. He’ll NEVER have nearly as good a chance to win a Title than he did the last 4 years. Ever, and he didn’t get it done...sorry. 

[Go-rilla]

BH was 3A in the 1990's. And Pennee Hall was as good of a coach as you will find.

[5GallonBucket]

3 hours ago, Go-rilla said:

BH was 3A in the 1990's. And Pennee Hall was as good of a coach as you will find.

I ll agree with that.

did they have a volleyball program back then?

[Bobcat1]

2 hours ago, 5GallonBucket said:

I ll agree with that.

did they have a volleyball program back then?

Volleyball has really taken a "toll" on basketball participation in the last ten years. 

[hjhawks]

KPBall -would love to have a conversation with you one day.....  Our girls played their heart out!

[Bobcat1]

50 minutes ago, hjhawks said:

KPBall -would love to have a conversation with you one day.....  Our girls played their heart out!

I have a feeling you'll be waiting a while

[Separation Scientist]

3 hours ago, Bobcat1 said:

Volleyball has really taken a "toll" on basketball participation in the last ten years. 

Yes, girls basketball is real "iffy" right now. Volleyball is better and of course last year was phenomenal in Softball and Baseball, both are defending State Champions!  

[Hoopster-007]

15 hours ago, KPBall said:

Yes, it’s hard to win State, no doubt. Never said it’s easy. Also, considering Barbers Hill and all the talent they’ve had, was at a different level. The difference In 4A and 5A statewide is astronomical. You can have 3 D1 players in 5A and just be top 10 in talent. In 4A, it’s rare to have 3 D1 players, much less an All American and 2 other D1 players. It’s completely different. As far as coaching, I’m not totally blaming Fogo. I actually think he’s a very solid coach who’s built a great program at HJ, kudos to him for that, I certainly can’t do what he does. BUT, to your point, it’s hard to win State. 99% of coaches will never win State, whether that’s due to not having talent or running up against a better coach. Sorry, but I think Fogo is in the latter category. He’s a very good coach, but not good enough to win State. He’ll NEVER have nearly as good a chance to win a Title than he did the last 4 years. Ever, and he didn’t get it done...sorry. 

LOL.

[Hoopster-007]

On 3/5/2022 at 10:23 PM, Go-rilla said:

Barbers hill had the 1st pick in WNBA draft and didn’t win state.

No, but should have...

[FALCONS2026]

22 hours ago, 5GallonBucket said:

I ll agree with that.

did they have a volleyball program back then?

Barbers Hill didn't have Volleyball in the early 90s.

[5GallonBucket]

15 minutes ago, FALCONS2026 said:

Barbers Hill didn't have Volleyball in the early 90s.

K. That’s what I was thinking.

[Bud Kilmer]

52 minutes ago, FALCONS2026 said:

Barbers Hill didn't have Volleyball in the early 90s.

I believe volleyball was started until 2000-2001 ish at BH.