Go-rilla Posted March 7, 2022 Report Posted March 7, 2022 BH had multiple D1 players in the 1990's and won 1 state championship. Its hard to win state. BH had kendal shaw (Vanderbilt) and lost in 4a semi finals. BH lost in Semis with collier to Canyon. Dont know how many WNBA players Canyon had that year. My point is winning state aint easy. Look at all the free throws Brownsboro missed down the stretch to make it interesting. HJ was sloppy with the BB and it cost them. Stop blaming the coach. You'd be praising him if they made 2 more points. Separation Scientist 1 Quote
KPBall Posted March 7, 2022 Report Posted March 7, 2022 15 minutes ago, Go-rilla said: BH had multiple D1 players in the 1990's and won 1 state championship. Its hard to win state. BH had kendal shaw (Vanderbilt) and lost in 4a semi finals. BH lost in Semis with collier to Canyon. Dont know how many WNBA players Canyon had that year. My point is winning state aint easy. Look at all the free throws Brownsboro missed down the stretch to make it interesting. HJ was sloppy with the BB and it cost them. Stop blaming the coach. You'd be praising him if they made 2 more points. Yes, it’s hard to win State, no doubt. Never said it’s easy. Also, considering Barbers Hill and all the talent they’ve had, was at a different level. The difference In 4A and 5A statewide is astronomical. You can have 3 D1 players in 5A and just be top 10 in talent. In 4A, it’s rare to have 3 D1 players, much less an All American and 2 other D1 players. It’s completely different. As far as coaching, I’m not totally blaming Fogo. I actually think he’s a very solid coach who’s built a great program at HJ, kudos to him for that, I certainly can’t do what he does. BUT, to your point, it’s hard to win State. 99% of coaches will never win State, whether that’s due to not having talent or running up against a better coach. Sorry, but I think Fogo is in the latter category. He’s a very good coach, but not good enough to win State. He’ll NEVER have nearly as good a chance to win a Title than he did the last 4 years. Ever, and he didn’t get it done...sorry. Quote
Go-rilla Posted March 7, 2022 Report Posted March 7, 2022 BH was 3A in the 1990's. And Pennee Hall was as good of a coach as you will find. Separation Scientist and Bobcat1 2 Quote
5GallonBucket Posted March 7, 2022 Report Posted March 7, 2022 3 hours ago, Go-rilla said: BH was 3A in the 1990's. And Pennee Hall was as good of a coach as you will find. I ll agree with that. did they have a volleyball program back then? Quote
Bobcat1 Posted March 7, 2022 Report Posted March 7, 2022 2 hours ago, 5GallonBucket said: I ll agree with that. did they have a volleyball program back then? Volleyball has really taken a "toll" on basketball participation in the last ten years. Quote
hjhawks Posted March 7, 2022 Report Posted March 7, 2022 KPBall -would love to have a conversation with you one day..... Our girls played their heart out! Quote
Bobcat1 Posted March 7, 2022 Report Posted March 7, 2022 50 minutes ago, hjhawks said: KPBall -would love to have a conversation with you one day..... Our girls played their heart out! I have a feeling you'll be waiting a while Quote
Separation Scientist Posted March 7, 2022 Report Posted March 7, 2022 3 hours ago, Bobcat1 said: Volleyball has really taken a "toll" on basketball participation in the last ten years. Yes, girls basketball is real "iffy" right now. Volleyball is better and of course last year was phenomenal in Softball and Baseball, both are defending State Champions! Quote
Hoopster-007 Posted March 7, 2022 Report Posted March 7, 2022 15 hours ago, KPBall said: Yes, it’s hard to win State, no doubt. Never said it’s easy. Also, considering Barbers Hill and all the talent they’ve had, was at a different level. The difference In 4A and 5A statewide is astronomical. You can have 3 D1 players in 5A and just be top 10 in talent. In 4A, it’s rare to have 3 D1 players, much less an All American and 2 other D1 players. It’s completely different. As far as coaching, I’m not totally blaming Fogo. I actually think he’s a very solid coach who’s built a great program at HJ, kudos to him for that, I certainly can’t do what he does. BUT, to your point, it’s hard to win State. 99% of coaches will never win State, whether that’s due to not having talent or running up against a better coach. Sorry, but I think Fogo is in the latter category. He’s a very good coach, but not good enough to win State. He’ll NEVER have nearly as good a chance to win a Title than he did the last 4 years. Ever, and he didn’t get it done...sorry. LOL. Quote
Hoopster-007 Posted March 8, 2022 Report Posted March 8, 2022 On 3/5/2022 at 10:23 PM, Go-rilla said: Barbers hill had the 1st pick in WNBA draft and didn’t win state. No, but should have... Separation Scientist 1 Quote
FALCONS2026 Posted March 8, 2022 Report Posted March 8, 2022 22 hours ago, 5GallonBucket said: I ll agree with that. did they have a volleyball program back then? Barbers Hill didn't have Volleyball in the early 90s. Quote
5GallonBucket Posted March 8, 2022 Report Posted March 8, 2022 15 minutes ago, FALCONS2026 said: Barbers Hill didn't have Volleyball in the early 90s. K. That’s what I was thinking. Quote
Bud Kilmer Posted March 8, 2022 Report Posted March 8, 2022 52 minutes ago, FALCONS2026 said: Barbers Hill didn't have Volleyball in the early 90s. I believe volleyball was started until 2000-2001 ish at BH. Quote
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