Reagan Posted March 28, 2022 Report Share Posted March 28, 2022 There's been a lot talk about what makes a successful football program: Is the athletes or the coach. Let's look at this: Can anyone reasonably doubt that after continuing to combine schools, and now down to 2, that United has the athletes? Since they have moved up to 6A, they have population growth in their favor. In the last 4 years they are 15-25. So, has it been the athletes or the coaching? Thoughts?! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raider24 Posted March 28, 2022 Report Share Posted March 28, 2022 Both play a part. Can't lay the blame on just 1. I would even say 1/3-1/3-1/3 between admins, coaches, and players. dj 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BMTSoulja1 Posted March 29, 2022 Report Share Posted March 29, 2022 Mostly coaching. 80/20 Mr. Thornton Melon, prepballfan and dj 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Buddy Garrity Posted March 29, 2022 Report Share Posted March 29, 2022 13 minutes ago, BMTSoulja1 said: Mostly coaching. 80/20 @Yeoj here we go again........ 🙄🤦🏾♂️ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justafan72 Posted March 29, 2022 Report Share Posted March 29, 2022 I remember the playoff game in 2015 between Beamont Central and C.E. King.Central had a RB Devwah Whaley who later played at Arkansas.C.E. King was playing without Traveon Williams RB who played at A&M and now in the NFL.The 1st half belonged to Whaley as he carved up the Panthers defense.Leading 21 -12 at halftime Central looked as if they would defeat my alma mater.The second half, we asked ourselves why aren't they giving Whaley the rock.I know I would have .Last Central play was a fumble rolling around in the Central backfield and a Williams less Panthers won 32-31.When you have a stud like Whaley,who King couldn't stop in the first half, give the kid the rock and go with the kid that got you there. Mr. Buddy Garrity 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reagan Posted March 29, 2022 Author Report Share Posted March 29, 2022 4 hours ago, Justafan72 said: I remember the playoff game in 2015 between Beamont Central and C.E. King.Central had a RB Devwah Whaley who later played at Arkansas.C.E. King was playing without Traveon Williams RB who played at A&M and now in the NFL.The 1st half belonged to Whaley as he carved up the Panthers defense.Leading 21 -12 at halftime Central looked as if they would defeat my alma mater.The second half, we asked ourselves why aren't they giving Whaley the rock.I know I would have .Last Central play was a fumble rolling around in the Central backfield and a Williams less Panthers won 32-31.When you have a stud like Whaley,who King couldn't stop in the first half, give the kid the rock and go with the kid that got you there. I've seen this happen before. These are coaching decisions that usually go wrong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scat_trap Posted March 30, 2022 Report Share Posted March 30, 2022 Because Beaumont is a cesspool? The entire city is apathetic? It's more Western Louisiana instead of East Texas? That entire school district is a septic wound that continually gets covered with a wart bandaid. They keep making "upgrades" that "are best for the kids" but don't want to admit the adult decision makers are screwing it up for the kids. I also noticed the question never mentioned if the infinite change in administration that can't allow for consistency. Separation Scientist 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BMTSoulja1 Posted March 30, 2022 Report Share Posted March 30, 2022 22 minutes ago, scat_trap said: Because Beaumont is a cesspool? The entire city is apathetic? It's more Western Louisiana instead of East Texas? That entire school district is a septic wound that continually gets covered with a wart bandaid. They keep making "upgrades" that "are best for the kids" but don't want to admit the adult decision makers are screwing it up for the kids. I also noticed the question never mentioned if the infinite change in administration that can't allow for consistency. This is without a doubt the most asinine post I’ve read in months… Bobcat1, Mr. Buddy Garrity, CardinalBacker and 2 others 3 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustUs Posted March 30, 2022 Report Share Posted March 30, 2022 12 hours ago, scat_trap said: Because Beaumont is a cesspool? The entire city is apathetic? It's more Western Louisiana instead of East Texas? That entire school district is a septic wound that continually gets covered with a wart bandaid. They keep making "upgrades" that "are best for the kids" but don't want to admit the adult decision makers are screwing it up for the kids. I also noticed the question never mentioned if the infinite change in administration that can't allow for consistency. Your last sentence is on point. Your above opinion is your opinion and you're entitled to that. Several share this opinion A nonchalant Sup. reference getting the best Head Coach and a "Dud" A.D. The two largest stumbling blocks. However its no accident. Its starts at the top. jmo... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CardinalBacker Posted March 30, 2022 Report Share Posted March 30, 2022 12 hours ago, BMTSoulja1 said: This is without a doubt the most asinine post I’ve read in months… If you've got hate in your heart, let it out, right? scat_trap 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustUs Posted March 30, 2022 Report Share Posted March 30, 2022 14 hours ago, scat_trap said: Because Beaumont is a cesspool? The entire city is apathetic? It's more Western Louisiana instead of East Texas? That entire school district is a septic wound that continually gets covered with a wart bandaid. They keep making "upgrades" that "are best for the kids" but don't want to admit the adult decision makers are screwing it up for the kids. I also noticed the question never mentioned if the infinite change in administration that can't allow for consistency. Hmmmm Google: Today's "Southeast Texas Political Review".. Top Story.. BISD Mess-Again.. scat_trap 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D3zii Posted March 31, 2022 Report Share Posted March 31, 2022 On 3/29/2022 at 9:43 PM, scat_trap said: Because Beaumont is a cesspool? The entire city is apathetic? It's more Western Louisiana instead of East Texas? That entire school district is a septic wound that continually gets covered with a wart bandaid. They keep making "upgrades" that "are best for the kids" but don't want to admit the adult decision makers are screwing it up for the kids. I also noticed the question never mentioned if the infinite change in administration that can't allow for consistency. Lol well tell us how you really feel!!!! scat_trap 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D3zii Posted March 31, 2022 Report Share Posted March 31, 2022 Like ive stated before and will continue to state. I do agree with Scat_Trap to a certain extent. I just believe you have the people in power who don't care about football at BU. When Central/Ozen had good coaches, they were an area power, and was always in a quest for a District championship and at least 2 rounds in the playoffs. So now you telling me they combined and it gets worst?? hmm idk about that Reagan 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Majestyk Posted March 31, 2022 Report Share Posted March 31, 2022 On 3/29/2022 at 9:43 PM, scat_trap said: Because Beaumont is a cesspool? The entire city is apathetic? It's more Western Louisiana instead of East Texas? That entire school district is a septic wound that continually gets covered with a wart bandaid. They keep making "upgrades" that "are best for the kids" but don't want to admit the adult decision makers are screwing it up for the kids. I also noticed the question never mentioned if the infinite change in administration that can't allow for consistency. I may have met my match. D3zii 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Separation Scientist Posted April 2, 2022 Report Share Posted April 2, 2022 On 3/29/2022 at 10:07 PM, BMTSoulja1 said: This is without a doubt the most asinine post I’ve read in months… Well, look what outside sources say: Is Beaumont, TX a safe place to live? According to CrimeGrade.org, Beaumont is listed in the 1st percentile for safety and crime. This rating means that 99% of cities nationwide are safer than Beaumont. The city’s overall crime score is an F. The city score is a composite of an “F” grade for violent crime and property crime and a “D-” for miscellaneous crime. Looking at these ratings and scores, Beaumont appears to be a very dangerous city. This is the hidden content, please Sign In or Sign Up scat_trap 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Buddy Garrity Posted April 2, 2022 Report Share Posted April 2, 2022 2 hours ago, Separation Scientist said: Well, look what outside sources say: Is Beaumont, TX a safe place to live? According to CrimeGrade.org, Beaumont is listed in the 1st percentile for safety and crime. This rating means that 99% of cities nationwide are safer than Beaumont. The city’s overall crime score is an F. The city score is a composite of an “F” grade for violent crime and property crime and a “D-” for miscellaneous crime. Looking at these ratings and scores, Beaumont appears to be a very dangerous city. This is the hidden content, please Sign In or Sign Up Everyone evacuate BMT. Holy 🤬 smh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
purpleeagle Posted April 2, 2022 Report Share Posted April 2, 2022 A lot of the good ones are evacuating, why do think Lumberton etc. are growing. Separation Scientist 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
navydawg31 Posted April 2, 2022 Report Share Posted April 2, 2022 1 hour ago, purpleeagle said: A lot of the good ones are evacuating, why do think Lumberton etc. are growing. That place has been growing the last 20 years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BMTSoulja1 Posted April 2, 2022 Report Share Posted April 2, 2022 Now this has homehow changed over to a bash on Beaumont. We were taking football. But people fail to realize as far as keeping it related to sports (all that other riff raff can go to the political forum), West Brook just made it to the state title game a few years ago. So apparently there is football talent in Beaumont. rc2182 and Reagan 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reagan Posted April 2, 2022 Author Report Share Posted April 2, 2022 2 hours ago, navydawg31 said: That place has been growing the last 20 years. True. Again, they did move up in classification. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach85 Posted April 2, 2022 Report Share Posted April 2, 2022 They aren’t successful because the Subpar AD keeps hiring his Subpar buddies who shouldn’t be head coaches as BU’s head coach. He does this because they don’t want a new proven head coach to come in and clean house and bring in a new coaching staff. Because the existing coaches all have ties to him or administration some how. Beaumont needs to clean house upstairs and bring in new administration and get the academics up to par first then forget the buddy buddy crap and bring in a proven coach that knows how to discipline and turn programs like this around. Bring back the desire in these kids to want to play football and enjoy playing football. Make them want to be as dominating as their basketball team. They have the talent there. They just need the right people to get it out of them. dj, Separation Scientist, Mr. Buddy Garrity and 2 others 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mat Posted April 2, 2022 Report Share Posted April 2, 2022 Another challenge is being able to attract truly capable head coaches for the HC pay. Many very qualified coaches choose to go after AD positions that pay more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Buddy Garrity Posted April 2, 2022 Report Share Posted April 2, 2022 1 hour ago, Coach85 said: They aren’t successful because the Subpar AD keeps hiring his Subpar buddies who shouldn’t be head coaches as BU’s head coach. He does this because they don’t want a new proven head coach to come in and clean house and bring in a new coaching staff. Because the existing coaches all have ties to him or administration some how. Beaumont needs to clean house upstairs and bring in new administration and get the academics up to par first then forget the buddy buddy crap and bring in a proven coach that knows how to discipline and turn programs like this around. Bring back the desire in these kids to want to play football and enjoy playing football. Make them want to be as dominating as their basketball team. They have the talent there. They just need the right people to get it out of them. This! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustUs Posted April 2, 2022 Report Share Posted April 2, 2022 40 minutes ago, Coach85 said: They aren’t successful because the Subpar AD keeps hiring his Subpar buddies who shouldn’t be head coaches as BU’s head coach. He does this because they don’t want a new proven head coach to come in and clean house and bring in a new coaching staff. Because the existing coaches all have ties to him or administration some how. Beaumont needs to clean house upstairs and bring in new administration and get the academics up to par first then forget the buddy buddy crap and bring in a proven coach that knows how to discipline and turn programs like this around. Bring back the desire in these kids to want to play football and enjoy playing football. Make them want to be as dominating as their basketball team. They have the talent there. They just need the right people to get it out of them. My, my, my you nailed it. 100% 0n point. Getting this solution implemented is the problem. Friends, Buddies, Former Head coach, Former A.D have too much input in the decision making process. We can only hope the new hire will be given Full Rein to replace most of the old Regime. Other wise it'll be like preaching to the choir. Best wishes Coach Colbert. jmo..... Highlander 09 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Buddy Garrity Posted April 2, 2022 Report Share Posted April 2, 2022 Same with PAISD. TJ dudes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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