Reagan Posted May 31, 2022 Report Posted May 31, 2022 WOW! Isn't socialism great?! LOL!! This is the hidden content, please Sign In or Sign Up Quote
tvc184 Posted June 1, 2022 Report Posted June 1, 2022 Fake news… the Dems said in 10 years it would pay for itself. thetragichippy 1 Quote
WOSdrummer99 Posted June 4, 2022 Report Posted June 4, 2022 Maybe I'm paying for it too... I pay about $5000/year for insurance thru my employer. But they won't cover a major test til I go over my out of pocket $3000 deductible. Can anyone explain the sense of that? Or is it just another Robin hood thing? Quote
tvc184 Posted June 4, 2022 Report Posted June 4, 2022 54 minutes ago, WOSdrummer99 said: Maybe I'm paying for it too... I pay about $5000/year for insurance thru my employer. But they won't cover a major test til I go over my out of pocket $3000 deductible. Can anyone explain the sense of that? Or is it just another Robin hood thing? That was the cost of Obamacare. My city insurance deductible went from $1500 to $5000. My wife’s monthly premium on my employee account went from $230 A month to almost $500. The “Affordable” Care Act is affordable for those not paying. Sure, all of a sudden people have insurance… by me (as an example) more than $6,000 a year increase every year since enacted. I probably paid an additional $60,000+ since it went into effect. Affordable? Sure, for the votes it was intended pay for. Quote
LumRaiderFan Posted June 4, 2022 Report Posted June 4, 2022 Just one more creative method of wealth distribution, compliments of the democrats. Quote
Boyz N Da Hood Posted June 4, 2022 Report Posted June 4, 2022 Sure ACA needs to be changed up... what alternative does the other side have? They ran 4 years on getting rid of Obama care with no plan to help those who need it most! I'm all for ppl paying for their own stuff, but how bout the ones who can't and are ill and rely on this stuff? Of course D's will get these votes Quote
baddog Posted June 4, 2022 Report Posted June 4, 2022 5 minutes ago, 45thAND46thSucks said: Sure ACA needs to be changed up... what alternative does the other side have? They ran 4 years on getting rid of Obama care with no plan to help those who need it most! I'm all for ppl paying for their own stuff, but how bout the ones who can't and are ill and rely on this stuff? Of course D's will get these votes Ever heard of Medicaid? Quote
Boyz N Da Hood Posted June 4, 2022 Report Posted June 4, 2022 20 minutes ago, baddog said: Ever heard of Medicaid? And if they don't qualify? I personally know ppl who were denied this or needed a dependent to be eligible Quote
Unwoke Posted June 4, 2022 Report Posted June 4, 2022 25 minutes ago, 45thAND46thSucks said: Sure ACA needs to be changed up... what alternative does the other side have? They ran 4 years on getting rid of Obama care with no plan to help those who need it most! I'm all for ppl paying for their own stuff, but how bout the ones who can't and are ill and rely on this stuff? Of course D's will get these votes My family’s health care plan at the time thru Blue Cross Blue Shield that served our needs went from $400 a month to $1500 a month for the same coverage. $1100 a month increase. News flash a lot of people lost their coverage an couldn’t afford new coverage, an to make things worse they financially didn’t qualify for Obama Care. Which means they increased the amount of people without insurance. It doesn’t surprise me that you would defend a TURD PIECE of LEGISLATION LIKE THE UNAFFORDABLE CARE ACT…..SMH Quote
Boyz N Da Hood Posted June 4, 2022 Report Posted June 4, 2022 3 minutes ago, Unwoke said: My family’s health care plan at the time thru Blue Cross Blue Shield that served our needs went from $400 a month to $1500 a month for the same coverage. $1100 a month increase. News flash a lot of people lost their coverage an couldn’t afford new coverage, an to make things worse they financially didn’t qualify for Obama Care. Which means they increased the amount of people without insurance. It doesn’t surprise me that you would defend a TURD PIECE of LEGISLATION LIKE THE UNAFFORDABLE CARE ACT…..SMH I'm literally debating on how to fix it and what's the alternative and you consider that defending? My wife's a nurse and were covered thru her job... I'm merely speaking on striking down something without replacing even though you told ppl for 4 years you had something better but never brought it to the table! Some folks will argue that ACA is what's keeping them alive 🤷🏾♂️ Quote
baddog Posted June 4, 2022 Report Posted June 4, 2022 29 minutes ago, 45thAND46thSucks said: And if they don't qualify? I personally know ppl who were denied this or needed a dependent to be eligible Qualify, like Obamacare? This is the hidden content, please Sign In or Sign Up Quote
Unwoke Posted June 4, 2022 Report Posted June 4, 2022 1 hour ago, 45thAND46thSucks said: I'm literally debating on how to fix it and what's the alternative and you consider that defending? My wife's a nurse and were covered thru her job... I'm merely speaking on striking down something without replacing even though you told ppl for 4 years you had something better but never brought it to the table! Some folks will argue that ACA is what's keeping them alive 🤷🏾♂️ Here’s the deal. My family along with millions of other families lost there health care coverage that they were happy with. Like baddog said Medicaid was already available to people in need. It was nothing more than another power grab from the Democrat party. They destroyed health care coverage for 80% of the American people to give the other 20% 💩coverage with ridiculously high deductibles. I am all for helping people in need but you don’t destroy the whole health care market to give 💩 coverage to 20% of the people. If you like your doctor you can keep your doctor. If you like your health care coverage you can keep your health care coverage. What a Bull💩 Lie an he knew it! Still pisses me off, not to mention Congress had their own gold standard policy’s. Obama 💩 Care are for the peasants only. Smh Quote
tvc184 Posted June 4, 2022 Report Posted June 4, 2022 1 hour ago, 45thAND46thSucks said: Sure ACA needs to be changed up... what alternative does the other side have? They ran 4 years on getting rid of Obama care with no plan to help those who need it most! I'm all for ppl paying for their own stuff, but how bout the ones who can't and are ill and rely on this stuff? Of course D's will get these votes That is nonsense. They were not in control with an unbeatable majority in both houses. The Senate takes 60 votes to break cloture and bring it to a vote. While 51 votes can pass a law, it takes those 60 to break the filibuster to get to the final vote. If that was not true, why are we debating gun control? Why don’t the Democrats with control of both houses and the presidency simply pass a law? A simple answer is easy, they can’t. thetragichippy 1 Quote
Boyz N Da Hood Posted June 5, 2022 Report Posted June 5, 2022 4 hours ago, tvc184 said: That is nonsense. They were not in control with an unbeatable majority in both houses. The Senate takes 60 votes to break cloture and bring it to a vote. While 51 votes can pass a law, it takes those 60 to break the filibuster to get to the final vote. If that was not true, why are we debating gun control? Why don’t the Democrats with control of both houses and the presidency simply pass a law? A simple answer is easy, they can’t. If they'd come up with something maybe we can change up ACA.... Obama got his stuff through with a R majority 6 of his years... what's the problem with R's Quote
tvc184 Posted June 5, 2022 Report Posted June 5, 2022 1 hour ago, 45thAND46thSucks said: If they'd come up with something maybe we can change up ACA.... Obama got his stuff through with a R majority 6 of his years... what's the problem with R's The ACA was passed with a large Democrat majority. The Republicans didn’t have the votes to stop it. It was not a compromise. Much like the assault weapon ban under Clinton ended the Democrats majority in a landslide victory. The ACA ended Democrat control but the rest of Obama’s 6 years. Quote
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