Maher - Wouldn’t Matter What Kind of Gun Uvalde Shooter Used

[Hagar]

Bill is right.  Imo, not long ago this guy was the voice of the Far Left.  Now the Far Left Loons see him as teetering on the edge of Conservatism.  They only tolerate Lock Step.  No room in their philosophy for truth are discussion.  Elon Musk, life long Liberal Democrat.  Makes EV’s which the very mention of will cure an impotent Far Left Loon faster than Viagra.  He talks of buying Twitter & allowing Free Speech.  Oh 🦇💩, we can’t have that.  All of a sudden Musk is a white, racist, apartheid loving conservative hack.  Soon Maher will lose his Liberal card.

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[tvc184]

I have said it a few times in various threads.  The actual firearm used rarely makes a difference except where a rifle has extended range capability. The two incidents that I can think of off the top of my head are the Mandalay Bay shooting in Las Vegas and they five police officers killed in Dallas.

The  annual FBI statistics show that in an average year, rifles of any type and any situation are responsible for by 350 deaths out of 15,000 murders. Hands, feet and weapons held by the hands such as knives or clubs, are responsible for about 3000 deaths.

Assuming that you could magically remove all rifle homicides from the equation, instead of 15,000 deaths you would have 14,650. That means that of those 350 rifle homicides, the shooter could not think of or have another means to kill you such as a shotgun, a hand gun or a knife.

To put it in simple terms, if you could stopped all homicides that were committed with a rifle, you would be talking about a 2% reduction. They’re wanting to call legislative sessions, making a certain weapon illegal, etc., for something that I have a 2% chance of improvement. Then you would have to rely on the fact that the person  angry enough to commit murder would not be able to do so by other means.

Anyone that thinks this is anything other than political and control, has not been paying attention.

 

[Unwoke]

58 minutes ago, tvc184 said:

I have said it a few times in various threads.  The actual firearm used rarely makes a difference except where a rifle has extended range capability. The two incidents that I can think of off the top of my head are the Mandalay Bay shooting in Las Vegas and they five police officers killed in Dallas.

The  annual FBI statistics show that in an average year, rifles of any type and any situation are responsible for by 350 deaths out of 15,000 murders. Hands, feet and weapons held by the hands such as knives or clubs, are responsible for about 3000 deaths.

Assuming that you could magically remove all rifle homicides from the equation, instead of 15,000 deaths you would have 14,650. That means that of those 350 rifle homicides, the shooter could not think of or have another means to kill you such as a shotgun, a hand gun or a knife.

To put it in simple terms, if you could stopped all homicides that were committed with a rifle, you would be talking about a 2% reduction. They’re wanting to call legislative sessions, making a certain weapon illegal, etc., for something that I have a 2% chance of improvement. Then you would have to rely on the fact that the person  angry enough to commit murder would not be able to do so by other means.

Anyone that thinks this is anything other than political and control, has not been paying attention.

 

I read the other day that 54% of gun related deaths in 2020 in the U.S. were suicides per CDC data. Thought that was an interesting fact when your looking at the gun related death issue.

[tvc184]

2 minutes ago, Unwoke said:

I read the other day that 54% of gun related deaths in 2020 in the U.S. were suicides per CDC data. Thought that was an interesting fact when your looking at the gun related death issue.

Yes, that is why I specifically stick with murders. Gun control arguments always talk about suicides but usually forget to mention it.

ABOUT 25,000 PEOPLE A YEAR ARE KILLED BY GUNS!!!!! … and 9,000 of them are murders.

And I am not negating the tragic nature of the 9000 or all of the suicides but with the gun control argument from the anti-gun people, it’s almost certainly disingenuous.

[Unwoke]

The power grab is real. 
 

 

 

 

[Unwoke]

27 minutes ago, tvc184 said:

Yes, that is why I specifically stick with murders. Gun control arguments always talk about suicides but usually forget to mention it.

ABOUT 25,000 PEOPLE A YEAR ARE KILLED BY GUNS!!!!! … and 9,000 of them are murders.

And I am not negating the tragic nature of the 9000 or all of the suicides but with the gun control argument from the anti-gun people, it’s almost certainly disingenuous.

The power grab for gun control is very disingenuous for sure.

[Hagar]

On 6/4/2022 at 9:58 AM, Hagar said:

Bill is right.  Imo, not long ago this guy was the voice of the Far Left.  Now the Far Left Loons see him as teetering on the edge of Conservatism.  They only tolerate Lock Step.  No room in their philosophy for truth are discussion.  Elon Musk, life long Liberal Democrat.  Makes EV’s which the very mention of will cure an impotent Far Left Loon faster than Viagra.  He talks of buying Twitter & allowing Free Speech.  Oh 🦇💩, we can’t have that.  All of a sudden Musk is a white, racist, apartheid loving conservative hack.  Soon Maher will lose his Liberal card.

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Look at the last line - Soon Maher will lose his Liberal card.

Well here we go folks.  Maher ask why people who identify as LGBTQXXX are doubling each generation.  BAM, they want him out.  Lmbo, old Bill makes some interesting points here.

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No, not just interesting, but some frightening points.  Alphabet crowd doubling every generation.

[LumRaiderFan]

21 minutes ago, Hagar said:

Look at the last line - Soon Maher will lose his Liberal card.

Well here we go folks.  Maher ask why people who identify as LGBTQXXX are doubling each generation.  BAM, they want him out.  Lmbo, old Bill makes some interesting points here.

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No, not just interesting, but some frightening points.  Alphabet crowd doubling every generation.

The left is all about free speech...as long as your speech is approved by them.

[Hagar]

2 hours ago, LumRaiderFan said:

The left is all about free speech...as long as your speech is approved by them.

Lmbo, you’re absolutely correct.  Lock Step!  They have room for nothing else.  Objections?  Why heck no.  Discussion?  No freaking way.  Suggestions?  Nope, unless it’s something even more ridiculous.  As the editorialist for the Townhall ask, “Or they pretending, or are they really this stupid?” (I know I’m wearing this quote out, but dad gum, it’s so appropriate.  Y’all bear with this senile old man. 😜).