DCTF 4A D2

[Dirty_but_Dazzling]

2 hours ago, CardinalBacker said:

Not just to be a hater, but how does a team that lost in the first round last year to a team that lost in the second round find themselves ranked at #9? 

Just predictions more than rankings, I guess. 

 

Bout Jasper’s rank? 

[89Falcon]

30 minutes ago, Dirty_but_Dazzling said:

Bout Jasper’s rank? 

Jasper has outstanding talent in the pipeline. Cant wait to see what happens with the Freshman DE that played 1B on the JV baseball team. He is among the most impressive looking kids I have ever seen. Had a couple of similar in 8th Grade as well.

[Dirty_but_Dazzling]

1 hour ago, 89Falcon said:

Jasper has outstanding talent in the pipeline. Cant wait to see what happens with the Freshman DE that played 1B on the JV baseball team. He is among the most impressive looking kids I have ever seen. Had a couple of similar in 8th Grade as well.

thanks.

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@CardinalBackerhas always had such high regard for Jasper's program.

That said, I couldnt/can't wait for his  thought(s).

[STiger85]

I’m guessing that’s why it’s called preseason rankings. I’m guessing they base it on what you have coming back, positions you have coming back, what you did last year, and so on. I’ve never put to much stock in a number in front of our name in preseason. Like cardinalbacker says where’s the proof you belong there, but then again if there’s nothing to argue about then some people will dry up and blow away. It’s nice to know Silsbee lives rent free in cardinalbackers head. 

[aTmfan06]

I know this is a 4A D2 thread but speaking of teams ranked… Lumberton comes in ranked 12th in 4A d1…LCM 15th

[Silsbee92]

On 6/24/2022 at 9:52 AM, CardinalBacker said:

Of course... but it's kinda junky to say "here are our rankings, based on zero evidence/performance.... it's a guess, honestly."  I can even understand teams ending up with a higher ranking than they deserve for this year based on performances last year by kids who have graduated.  But at least there's a little bit of credibility there, even if it's only by inference or association.  But to say, "yeah, the last time we saw this team they were literally getting shelled by a kinda crappy team that lost the next week.  But that makes them a nine in my book" means the rankings are just a popularity contest and mean nothing.  

To each his own but might compare the rankings and see how often they come pretty close.  

Take 2020 for example:

#1 Carthage / #2 Gilmer Played for Title

#3 Wimberly lost to #1 Carthage (State Semis) 

Only outlier was #15 Graham lost to #2 Gilmer (State Semis)

 

#4 WOS lost to #7 China Spring (Reg Semis)

#5 PG lost to #22 Caddo Mills (Reg Semis)

#6 Celina lost to #15 Graham (Reg Finals)

#7 China Spring lost to #1 Carthage (Reg Finals)

#8 Bellville lost to #12 Salado (Area)

#9 Sweetwater lost to #6 Celina (Area)

#10 Sinton lost to #3 Wimberly (Reg Semis)

 

Again, to each his own. 

Especially the Haters.

#TigerNation

[Dirty_but_Dazzling]

16 minutes ago, Silsbee92 said:

To each his own but might compare the rankings and see how often they come pretty close.  

Take 2020 for example:

#1 Carthage / #2 Gilmer Played for Title

#3 Wimberly lost to #1 Carthage (State Semis) 

Only outlier was #15 Graham lost to #2 Gilmer (State Semis)

 

#4 WOS lost to #7 China Spring (Reg Semis)

#5 PG lost to #22 Caddo Mills (Reg Semis)

#6 Celina lost to #15 Graham (Reg Finals)

#7 China Spring lost to #1 Carthage (Reg Finals)

#8 Bellville lost to #12 Salado (Area)

#9 Sweetwater lost to #6 Celina (Area)

#10 Sinton lost to #3 Wimberly (Reg Semis)

 

Again, to each his own. 

Especially the Haters.

#TigerNation

Did Silsbee play Carthage in 2020 ?

[Silsbee92]

6 minutes ago, Dirty_but_Dazzling said:

Did Silsbee play Carthage in 2020 ?

2019-20 Season Nope.  Carthage was still 4A-1

2020-21 Season Yep.  Lost 49-0

[Silsbee92]

On 6/23/2022 at 4:09 PM, Dirty_but_Dazzling said:

3 teams in the top 20. Most Districts doing good to have 1 in top 25.

If it holds true, we are in for a helluva football season.

"GO DAWGS!!"

They've all been ranked together before but the best was prob 2019.

#2 Jasper

#3 Silsbee

#5 WO-S

[Mr. Buddy Garrity]

9 minutes ago, Silsbee92 said:

They've all been ranked together before but the best was prob 2019.

#2 Jasper

#3 Silsbee

#5 WO-S

That year was crazy in the playoffs. 

 

EDIT: I'm thinking about 2018. 

Edited June 25, 2022 by Mr. Buddy Garrity
Wrong year

[Dirty_but_Dazzling]

58 minutes ago, Mr. Buddy Garrity said:

That year was crazy in the playoffs. 

 

EDIT: I'm thinking about 2018. 

the Blue&Silver beat us in '18 3rd round.  Early in the season of 2018 that DAWG Montavien Hunt went for 350+ on them horses

[Mr. Buddy Garrity]

10 minutes ago, Dirty_but_Dazzling said:

the Blue&Silver beat us in '18 3rd round.  Early in the season of 2018 that DAWG Montavien Hunt went for 350+ on them horses

Yup I was at that playoff game. 

[Silsbee92]

2 hours ago, Mr. Buddy Garrity said:

Yup I was at that playoff game. 

Goes to show you that regular season games are exciting and tell you a bunch about your team. 

The playoffs show what you have learned and whether or not your mettle was tested during those games. 

It doesnt happen often enough for the Tigers, but when they get deep in the playoffs its a game.

Ill take 7-4, 6-5 reg season all day if it prepares us for December.

Two games that will hurt me forever...

2015 Carthage

2019 Cuero

[Silsbee92]

On 6/23/2022 at 5:39 PM, aTmfan06 said:

Pretty high for Silsbee. What do they have returning ? Besides Miller obviously 

I would agree on this ranking being too high for one reason....

Silsbee was unable to close out teams last year in the 4th Qtr.

Can they do it this year?  Did the Sophs sow their oats and are now ready to be a team?

 

Powerful offense with a very young and talented Offensive line waiting in the wings, but as of now, no defensive leader. 

Dont get riled up just yet...

I mean that to say there were great individual defensive players in 2021 but there did not seem to be one that just said follow me...

i.e.   Dralyn Taylor, Ayden Bell, Quincy Kelly

 

I will be watching to see who might want and own that responsibility....  several candidates but my money is on one in particular. 

If it all comes together then 2022 will be a  tone setter for 2023 when all the skill players and trenches gel.

Stay tuned.

#TigerNation

[Silsbee92]

3 hours ago, Mr. Buddy Garrity said:

That year was crazy in the playoffs. 

 

EDIT: I'm thinking about 2018. 

You are right,  my years always run off by 1.

2018-19 Season

[Matthew328]

All rankings are a guess.....there's a lot that goes into them, past performance, returning starters, pedigree of program and coach and there's some hunches/feelings that go into it as well...its not a perfect science but we tend to do ok...

as for Hirschi..I think people forget just how close they were to beating Stephenville in the semifinals last year...we are talking about a team that went 12-3 last year...is moving down to D2 in Region I and they return a dozen starters...if their Coach doesnt take the Coppell job and take his son who was the leading returning tackler with him, I think Hirschi would be ranked #2....

 

Silsbee is more of a guess because they were average last year, but sixteen starters back, including a large number of juniors who played as sophomores we felt pretty good about the Tigers, especially considering their recent playoff pedigree

[AggiesAreWe]

9 hours ago, Silsbee92 said:

I would agree on this ranking being too high for one reason....

Silsbee was unable to close out teams last year in the 4th Qtr.

Can they do it this year?  Did the Sophs sow their oats and are now ready to be a team?

 

Powerful offense with a very young and talented Offensive line waiting in the wings, but as of now, no defensive leader. 

Dont get riled up just yet...

I mean that to say there were great individual defensive players in 2021 but there did not seem to be one that just said follow me...

i.e.   Dralyn Taylor, Ayden Bell, Quincy Kelly

 

I will be watching to see who might want and own that responsibility....  several candidates but my money is on one in particular. 

If it all comes together then 2022 will be a  tone setter for 2023 when all the skill players and trenches gel.

Stay tuned.

#TigerNation

I would have to say that LB Jayron Williams is the bell cow on defense. Being a senior, he should take the role of defensive leader.

[Silsbee92]

Dre'lon Miller Showed Up to play apparently.  Lol.

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He wasnt the only one though as the Twin connection was working as well between Mason & Max, multiple TDs.

[Silsbee92]

1 hour ago, AggiesAreWe said:

I would have to say that LB Jayron Williams is the bell cow on defense. Being a senior, he should take the role of defensive leader.

I agree, he should.  Fingers crossed.

Look for Carter to have a big year though.  He is lighter, stronger and faster than his SOPH campaign and has a nose for the ball.

#       NAME                GP    SOLO    ASST    TOT TCKLS    T/G    TFL
40    J. Williams(Jr)    10          64         16                   80     8.0    7.0
32    J. Carter(So)       9           50         15                   65     7.2    11.0 

G. White will be pivotal as well in his JR campaign.  Young man has good technique and will be a force in the trenches.

Add newcomer J. Brown to the mix and the LB/Sec should be super salty and aggressive.  

Just  need some lineman to fill those gaps.  The only unknown in the team this year.

JMO

#TigerNation

[Dirty_but_Dazzling]

On 6/25/2022 at 7:49 PM, Mr. Buddy Garrity said:

Yup I was at that playoff game. 

of course you sat on Jasper’s side. Right?🤔

[Mr. Buddy Garrity]

2 minutes ago, Dirty_but_Dazzling said:

of course you sat on Jasper’s side. Right?🤔

Yup, loudest crowd all game until that 4th qtr happened. 

[Dirty_but_Dazzling]

1 minute ago, Mr. Buddy Garrity said:

Yup, loudest crowd all game until that 4th qtr happened. 

the last two minutes of the 4th it began to be crickets. 

for sure for sure.

lol.

[Dirty_but_Dazzling]

it may have been more time than 2 minutes when we fumbled DEEP in our end of the field. by that point I was exhausted 😩 things were becoming a blur.

9 minutes ago, Mr. Buddy Garrity said:

Yup, loudest crowd all game until that 4th qtr happened. 

 

[Dirty_but_Dazzling]

On 6/25/2022 at 10:13 PM, Silsbee92 said:

Goes to show you that regular season games are exciting and tell you a bunch about your team. 

The playoffs show what you have learned and whether or not your mettle was tested during those games. 

It doesnt happen often enough for the Tigers, but when they get deep in the playoffs its a game.

Ill take 7-4, 6-5 reg season all day if it prepares us for December.

Two games that will hurt me forever...

2015 Carthage

2019 Cuero

I wouldn't feel so bad about losing to Carthage if I were you.

in 2015 Waco LaVega was a straight up BEAST! Carthage played them the next game after yall and was lucky to get the 3 points they did in a 39-3 spank spank by LaVega.

[Silsbee92]

12 hours ago, Dirty_but_Dazzling said:

I wouldn't feel so bad about losing to Carthage if I were you.

in 2015 Waco LaVega was a straight up BEAST! Carthage played them the next game after yall and was lucky to get the 3 points they did in a 39-3 spank spank by LaVega.

Again, I prob got my year mixed up because the "Heartbreak Kids" from Carthage won state the year we lost to them 34-30 (2016-17).

In 2015, we dropped 40 on Carthage and couldnt get ahead of Carthage.  They lost to La Vega that year.