2022 Nederland Bulldogs

[dme1111]

6 minutes ago, Bigdog said:

If they can't take the heat, or want to focus on one sport so be it.  The kids that want to work will be there.  

  It is the coaching staffs job to maintain relationship and keep those kids in the program.  Kids are leaving for a reason.  Hopefully I am wrong.  I am a DIE HARD season ticket holder for many years.  I am passionate about our program.  The kids deserve the best.   

[Mr. Buddy Garrity]

31 minutes ago, Bigdog said:

I don't believe that.   They should have fired him my senior year, instead they kept him an extra year for some reason.  Oh well the next coach worked out pretty well.  

Don't let Smitty/Reagan see that in bold. 

[Razor]

I guess it's natural for naysayers to always point to coaching first when things don't go as they want...teams and talent change from year to year...it has always amazed how closely a coaches success is tied to the quality of his talent pool...there seems to be a pretty close relationship there...to me, this is the same coaching staff that tremendously overachieved just season before last by making round 3 with a team that not many felt could go that far...things didn't go the way fans liked last year, so now "we ain't happy"...the coaches are the same, and for my money, I will take Nederland's staff any day of the week...to me, they have proven to get the most out of what they have and more importantly, do a good job of developing young men (isn't that their most important job?)

I don't know too much about this year's team...sounds like they might be young and I know they have had some losses that have, from what little I know, have very little to do with football or the football program...brings me back to a young Nederland team in 2010 that started and played a bunch of sophomores due to injuries, etc...that team improved as the year went on, rode some senior leadership along with those youngsters and managed a decent, playoff season...in 2011 and 2012, that group was dominant and won back to back district titles without losing a district game and going 3 and 4 rounds deep respectively, with the 2012 team ranked in the Top 10 most of the season and beating #1 ranked Pearland Dawson...let's let this young group develop and improve this year, see what they can do, and then hope for bigger and better things as they gain experience and confidence...I have all the faith in the world that this coaching staff will get every ounce they can out of them, this year and beyond

[purpleeagle]

Teams have players that leave the program every year, you just don’t hear about   It most of the time. Newton has two for sure and may be one more player at this time that played last year that chose not to play this year.This is nothing new to Nederland or any other team, coaches deal with this every year.

Don’t worry about those that left, the team is better off without them. Support the ones that stayed and move on.

[dme1111]

1 hour ago, purpleeagle said:

Teams have players that leave the program every year, you just don’t hear about   It most of the time. Newton has two for sure and may be one more player at this time that played last year that chose not to play this year.This is nothing new to Nederland or any other team, coaches deal with this every year.

Don’t worry about those that left, the team is better off without them. Support the ones that stayed and move on.

We definitely are not "better" without these kids.  

[Reagan]

4 hours ago, Razor said:

I guess it's natural for naysayers to always point to coaching first when things don't go as they want...teams and talent change from year to year...it has always amazed how closely a coaches success is tied to the quality of his talent pool...there seems to be a pretty close relationship there...to me, this is the same coaching staff that tremendously overachieved just season before last by making round 3 with a team that not many felt could go that far...things didn't go the way fans liked last year, so now "we ain't happy"...the coaches are the same, and for my money, I will take Nederland's staff any day of the week...to me, they have proven to get the most out of what they have and more importantly, do a good job of developing young men (isn't that their most important job?)

I don't know too much about this year's team...sounds like they might be young and I know they have had some losses that have, from what little I know, have very little to do with football or the football program...brings me back to a young Nederland team in 2010 that started and played a bunch of sophomores due to injuries, etc...that team improved as the year went on, rode some senior leadership along with those youngsters and managed a decent, playoff season...in 2011 and 2012, that group was dominant and won back to back district titles without losing a district game and going 3 and 4 rounds deep respectively, with the 2012 team ranked in the Top 10 most of the season and beating #1 ranked Pearland Dawson...let's let this young group develop and improve this year, see what they can do, and then hope for bigger and better things as they gain experience and confidence...I have all the faith in the world that this coaching staff will get every ounce they can out of them, this year and beyond

What's actually easy is to always blame the kids for the coaches failures.  Bobby August had the same talent pool available to him as Larry Neauman had.  At PNG, Ken Watson had the same talent pool as Doug Ethridge had available.  In the 6 years Watson was the HC, he only made the playoffs 1 time and lost in the first round.  His last three years he had one of the best running backs in Texas, "The Jet".  Should have made a run at the State Title. My opinion.  Everyone knows the success Ethridge had.  The previous coach at Carthage had the same talent pool available as Surratt has.  I could keep going.

As I always say:  There's no future in consistently blaming the kids and giving the coach a pass.  If you want a good program, then you find the best coach available.  And if that doesn't work out then you keep looking and hope you eventually hit the jackpot like Aledo, Carthage and others have.

[purpleeagle]

14 minutes ago, Reagan said:

What's actually easy is to always blame the kids for the coaches failures.  Bobby August had the same talent pool available to him as Larry Neauman had.  At PNG, Ken Watson had the same talent pool as Doug Ethridge had available.  In the 6 years Watson was the HC, he only made the playoffs 1 time and lost in the first round.  His last three years he had one of the best running backs in Texas, "The Jet".  Should have made a run at the State Title. My opinion.  Everyone knows the success Ethridge had.  As I always say:  There's no future in consistently blaming the kids and giving the coach a pass.  If you want a good program, then you find the best coach available.  And if that doesn't work out then you keep looking and hope you eventually hit the jackpot like Aledo, Carthage and others have.

You can resolve this problem, just move to Carthage or Aledo.

[Razor]

Who blamed the kids?  You sound like MSNBC trying to spin a story... lol..heck, Etheridge's last year coaching at Round Rock, he was 2-8...did he suddenly become a subpar coach or were the circumstances different??? my guess is, the man was still one hell of a football coach

[spidersal]

Last season was a tough one. The season showed a lack of talent along with poor coaching.  The 4 games that really showed me this were Silsbee, Texas City, Barber’s Hill, and KP

Hopefully this season the talent level will be better along with the coaching. If not, they may only win 3 games

I have said it before and I will say it again, with 4 teams making the playoffs each year, Nederland should make the playoffs every year!

[Cougar14.2]

On 7/29/2022 at 9:36 AM, KF89 said:

Since Nederland district opponents Santa Fe & Willowridge teams were brought up let's see what they are working with this year.

 

Santa Fe Indians 

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Coach

Blake Ryder

Lettermen

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Starters returning

Offense- 8    Defense-7.  2021 Overall- 0-10, 0-7 District Record

Impact Players 

RB/LB Jackson Stroud (5-11, 170)

WR/DB Kyeler Thompson (5-11, 165)

OL/DL Anthony Arcidiacono (6-3, 215)

DE Franklin Alfaro (6-1, 220),

WR/DB Stephen Garcia (5-9, 160)

Key  Prospects

RB/LB Bryce Leal (5-9, 190)

OL Holden Weaver (6-1, 210)

DB Jarrett Pahkala (5-8, 135)

It’s been a rough go for the Indians, who are mired in a 14-game losing streak, but they are hopeful a new head coach in former Texas City assistant Blake Ryder can turn things around. Ryder inherits an experienced squad that graduated just eight players from a year ago, so there is some positive momentum. RB/LB Stroud (78 tackles) is a three-year starter and kick-blocking specialist who blocked four kicks a year ago. WR/DB Thompson and OL/DL Arcidiacono are a pair of four-year starters who bring plenty of experience to the table for Sante Fe. RB/LB Leal (81 tackles) had a big sophomore season, while OL Weaver started all 10 games up front as a sophomore. DB Pahkala (18 tackles) emerged late in his freshman season and will be a key contributor in the Indians secondary.

Past Seasons

2018- 5-6

2019- 2-8

2020- 0-10

 

Willowridge Eagles 

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Kendron Penson

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Starters Returning

Offense- 6   Defense- 8.  2021-Overall Record- 4-5,  4-4  District Record

Impact Players 

WR Travis Willis (5-9, 155, 4.5)

WR Marxquise Hayes (5-10, 155, 4.6)

OL Issac Orellana (6-4, 290)

WR Anthony Momon-Lattimore (6-2, 195, 4.6)

RB/LB Tulio Nunez (5-9, 170, 4.6)

QB Blaize Covington (6-4, 205, 4.7)

Key  Prospects

DE Steven Brantley (6-1, 245)

QB/DB Kendron Penson, Jr. (5-10, 170, 4.6)

DL Royce Wilson (6-0, 200) 

 TE Quentin Iles

WR Rome Jackson

DE Christian McCardell. 

New head coach Kendron Penson arrives at WIllowridge after spending the past few seasons as an assistant at Fort Bend Hightower. He inherits an experienced squad that had a disappointing 2021 season that missed out on the playoffs. There are two experienced QBs on the roster in Covington (862 yards, 10 TDs passing) and Hightower transfer Penson Jr. (2,111 yards, 20 TDs passing; 5 TDs rushing). WR Hayes (19-315, 5 TDs receiving) and WR Willis will lead a dynamic group of receivers, Hayes also led the district in interceptions in 2021. The defense is full of experience and young talent led by junior DE Brantley and sophomore DL Wilson. Penson says the biggest concern heading into 2022 will be the offensive line, which graduated four starters.

Past Seasons

2018- 7-4

2019- 7-4

2020- 7-3

 

 

It just dawned on me that FB Willowridge’s new coach is also the dad of FB Hightower’s stud sophomore qb from last year’s 11-3 regional final squad. He moved to FBW with his dad when he got the head coaching job this past April. 
 

The only teams in this district that can really “out-athlete” FBW are FB Marshall and Texas City. IDK what kind of coach his dad will be but Kendron Penson is an absolute game changer in district with teams like Ned, PNG, Dayton and FBW packed as close together as they are personnel wise. Kid threw for just shy of 2,500 yards in a district with Manvel, Paetow, Angleton and Foster. This may be a situation like Jalen Hurts dad had at Channelview with his older brother Averion? I think the FBW games goes from a for sure win for Ned to a ?

[tvc184]

On 8/3/2022 at 9:27 AM, Bigdog said:

I don't believe that.   They should have fired him my senior year, instead they kept him an extra year for some reason.  Oh well the next coach worked out pretty well.  

Timing!! If Nederland wouldn’t have held onto August for another year, they would likely have never interviewed a coach name Larry Neumann.

 I think it worked out in the long run….. 

[Bigdog]

On 8/6/2022 at 8:09 AM, tvc184 said:

Timing!! If Nederland wouldn’t have held onto August for another year, they would likely have never interviewed a coach name Larry Neumann.

 I think it worked out in the long run….. 

It did.  But was Neumann available the year before?  If so, I might have still worked out if August was fired in '92

[tvc184]

12 minutes ago, Bigdog said:

It did.  But was Neumann available the year before?  If so, I might have still worked out if August was fired in '92

That was certainly possible but……

We will never know the “what if” answer? Would Neumann have applied  a year earlier? Did he think it was time in his career? Even if so, would other candidates have applied year earlier that would have been more attractive? Was the school board the same?

I think it was an old Japanese proverb, “When a butterfly flaps it wings….”. 

[tvc184]

….. which is all explained in the song, Third Rock From The Sun.

[outanup]

Neumann was an assistant at TJ for a good while, and the #3rd choice for the Ned job.....The first two backed out ,  it was then  offered to Larry....TIMING!!!

[Mr. Thornton Melon]

Nederland looked good in those spring games

[NHSBulldogFan]

10 hours ago, outanup said:

Neumann was an assistant at TJ for a good while, and the #3rd choice for the Ned job.....The first two backed out ,  it was then  offered to Larry....TIMING!!!

Facts...the first pick was Dickey Meeks who had won state at Tyler Chapel Hill in 1989 and grew up in Nederland... as the story goes Coach Meeks came to Nederland (this after the school board argued with him over assistants) took one look at the facilities turned around and never came back. The second guy was Ken Wheaton who was an Assistant at Lake Highlands who was actually a worse head coach than Bobby August but he too turned it down. We were lucky to have Coach Neumann take the job because he was the 3rd Choice 

[KF89]

11 hours ago, NHSBulldogFan said:

Facts...the first pick was Dickey Meeks who had won state at Tyler Chapel Hill in 1989 and grew up in Nederland... as the story goes Coach Meeks came to Nederland (this after the school board argued with him over assistants) took one look at the facilities turned around and never came back. The second guy was Ken Wheaton who was an Assistant at Lake Highlands who was actually a worse head coach than Bobby August but he too turned it down. We were lucky to have Coach Neumann take the job because he was the 3rd Choice 

Imagine a school board arguing with a coach who recently won a state championship over the coaches he can bring with him to a school that was not a very good football program the 25 years prior. Typical tho, most school boards have one or two good common sense people, the rest are usually power grabbing arrogant idiots.😎

[navydawg31]

Dickey Meeks coaching philosophy was turning losing programs into winners and then he would on 

[KF89]

2 hours ago, navydawg31 said:

Dickey Meeks coaching philosophy was turning losing programs into winners and then he would on 

You are correct, Meeks did have a good head coaching career & was good at turning programs around.

Meeks won 3 state titles in Louisiana & 2 in Texas.

35 total years as head coach in Louisiana & Texas- 250-185-6

28 years as head coach in Texas- 164-149-4 record, 16-3-2 playoff record. 

2  Texas State Championships, 1 State Title @ 4A Tyler Chapel Hill (1989), 1 State Title @ 3A- D1 Henderson (2010)

1989 Playoffs- Meeks led Chapel Hill team beat Terrell 17-0, Lancaster 25-0, Denison 16-13, Mount Pleasant 13-0, Big Spring 59-6, A&M Consolidated 14-0 in state title game  

2010 Playoffs- Meeks led Henderson team beat North Lamar 49-12, Lindale 42-28, Lovejoy 36-14, Alvarado 20-13,  Tyler Chapel Hill 28-21 in state title game

 

 

[A BUC 77]

I saw that Meeks past away a few years ago.  He was known for turning around programs and helping other coaches even when he was about to play them.  In the East Texas Hall of Fame.  

[GoPro]

On 8/8/2022 at 10:00 PM, NHSBulldogFan said:

Facts...the first pick was Dickey Meeks who had won state at Tyler Chapel Hill in 1989 and grew up in Nederland... as the story goes Coach Meeks came to Nederland (this after the school board argued with him over assistants) took one look at the facilities turned around and never came back. The second guy was Ken Wheaton who was an Assistant at Lake Highlands who was actually a worse head coach than Bobby August but he too turned it down. We were lucky to have Coach Neumann take the job because he was the 3rd Choice 

I had heard the same thing, Meeks wanted to bring most of his assistant coaches and clean house but the NISD board, aka good ol boys,  wasn't havening it . 

[tvc184]

The Nederland schedule shows a scrimmage tomorrow with HF at home for 5:00/6:15.

Is 5:00 the JV scrimmage? 

[navydawg31]

56 minutes ago, tvc184 said:

The Nederland schedule shows a scrimmage tomorrow with HF at home for 5:00/6:15.

Is 5:00 the JV scrimmage? 

I heard it’s going to be at Lamar?

[Mr. Buddy Garrity]

13 minutes ago, navydawg31 said:

I heard it’s going to be at Lamar?

Yeah I believe that was said on 12News this evening.