Tulsi Gabbard Officially Leaves Woke Democratic Party

[Unwoke]

 

 

[tvc184]

I hardly ever start a political thread and only comment on a couple but came here to post this about Gabbard.

 But it isn’t just Gabbard. The former deputy mayor, a lifelong Democrat, has come out publicly to go against his own party and support Dr. Oz as the Pennsylvania senator in the upcoming election over the Democrat, Fetterman. 

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Tulsi Gabbard is hardly a strong conservative but even with her left leanings, can’t stomach the DNC anymore. I think she is probably 50/50 or a rare down the middle politician. Her problem with conservatives are issues like she is not a strong supporter of the Second Amendment, like she says she believes in it but then wants restrictions, etc.

I am not sure where she will land, if anywhere, but it is nice to see her call out the silliness from the left side of the aisle. 

[BS Wildcats]

Maybe more will follow.  

[Reagan]

1 hour ago, Unwoke said:

 

 

Would this be considered hate speech by Twitter and get her banned?  😏

[Hagar]

My only surprise is that it took so long.  Surely there are more,but maybe they don’t want to come out of the closet publicly.  Then they’d lose the financial support of the DNC.  Evidently the purse strings are held by the Woke crowd.  How do idiots like this get in positions of power?  The Dem Party has been hi-jacked and somehow the liberals have been subdued by the Woke.  It’s a mystery worthy of Agatha Christie.

[Unwoke]

3 hours ago, Reagan said:

Would this be considered hate speech by Twitter and get her banned?  😏

She’ll probably be banned.🤫

[tvc184]

8 hours ago, Reagan said:

Would this be considered hate speech by Twitter and get her banned?  😏

Anything the left elites don’t like is hate speech. 

[baddog]

Good that she exposes her party for what they are, but it’s not something we didn’t already know. I still don’t trust someone who switched parties. It’s a complete turnaround. 

[LumRaiderFan]

37 minutes ago, baddog said:

Good that she exposes her party for what they are, but it’s not something we didn’t already know. I still don’t trust someone who switched parties. It’s a complete turnaround. 

I can see this in her case.  She has been a democrat officeholder for 20 years and the democrat party has swung wildly left in that period of time. She doesn't pretend to be a conservative, she is, without a doubt, liberal, but not liberal enough to stay with the lunatic democrat party.  Her point is that they changed, she hasn't.

I certainly get your point though, when you switch parties when the core platform principles are so far apart, it makes you not trust their voting moving forward.

I sure wouldn't want Gabbard filling a Republican seat.

[baddog]

1 hour ago, LumRaiderFan said:

I can see this in her case.  She has been a democrat officeholder for 20 years and the democrat party has swung wildly left in that period of time. She doesn't pretend to be a conservative, she is, without a doubt, liberal, but not liberal enough to stay with the lunatic democrat party.  Her point is that they changed, she hasn't.

I certainly get your point though, when you switch parties when the core platform principles are so far apart, it makes you not trust their voting moving forward.

I sure wouldn't want Gabbard filling a Republican seat.

My only question to her is what Hagar alluded to…. Why did it take her so long? The democrats have been going left towards communism for years. Mid terms around the corner?……I understand her getting her fill, but the democrats have been full of it for awhile. lol

[LumRaiderFan]

16 minutes ago, baddog said:

My only question to her is what Hagar alluded to…. Why did it take her so long? The democrats have been going left towards communism for years. Mid terms around the corner?……I understand her getting her fill, but the democrats have been full of it for awhile. lol

I guess it's tough for us conservatives to figure out the reasoning behind the liberal thought process.  My guess would be the attacks on her from her own party for simply not being a hard left loon was the last straw.

[CardinalBacker]

The loons having control of the Democrat party is no different that the Trump-lovin', truth-denyin' whackjobs that are controlling the Republican Party at the moment. 

[LumRaiderFan]

4 minutes ago, CardinalBacker said:

The loons having control of the Democrat party is no different that the Trump-lovin', truth-denyin' whackjobs that are controlling the Republican Party at the moment. 

Can you list the policies they are pushing that will harm the country?

Waiting on a big list, I can sure come up with one for your party.

[CardinalBacker]

Just now, LumRaiderFan said:

Can you list the policies they are pushing that will harm the country?

Waiting on a big list, I can sure come up with one for your party.

For starters, the one where you storm the capitol and try to stop the peaceful transfer of power if you don't like the results of a fair election.  

The ones where you send out trillions of dollars in PPP loans and unemployment without any type of verification.

The explosion of our debt that came as a result of tax cuts without corresponding cuts in spending. 

The efforts to undermine our election process because of "fraud" without a single shred of evidence.

The efforts to unwind thousands of lawful same sex marriages.  

The efforts to make any form of birth control illegal... not just abortion.

For starters, anyways. 

[LumRaiderFan]

25 minutes ago, CardinalBacker said:

For starters, the one where you storm the capitol and try to stop the peaceful transfer of power if you don't like the results of a fair election.  

The ones where you send out trillions of dollars in PPP loans and unemployment without any type of verification.

The explosion of our debt that came as a result of tax cuts without corresponding cuts in spending. 

The efforts to undermine our election process because of "fraud" without a single shred of evidence.

The efforts to unwind thousands of lawful same sex marriages.  

The efforts to make any form of birth control illegal... not just abortion.

For starters, anyways. 

So you are saying these policies are coming from the right wing conservatives in the Republican party?

Sad that there are actually folks like yourself that see the right just as dangerous as the left.

[CardinalBacker]

3 minutes ago, LumRaiderFan said:

So you are saying these policies are coming from the right wing conservatives in the Republican party?

Sad that there are actually folks like yourself that see the right just as dangerous as the left.

No, I see right wing extremists as unfavorably as I view those on the left.  The guy whose version of 2A means than anybody can have a machine gun, no background checks.  Anybody that believes that a woman should go to prison for ending a pregnancy where the life of the child can't be medically sustained.  Anybody that believes that no one should pay any income taxes. Anyone that believes that the left "stole" the election in 2020.  All equally stupid. 

[LumRaiderFan]

Just now, CardinalBacker said:

No, I see right wing extremists as unfavorably as I view those on the left.  The guy whose version of 2A means than anybody can have a machine gun, no background checks.  Anybody that believes that a woman should go to prison for ending a pregnancy where the life of the child can't be medically sustained.  Anybody that believes that no one should pay any income taxes. Anyone that believes that the left "stole" the election in 2020.  All equally stupid. 

What is stupid is that you think the numbers of the folks that feel this way are as big a threat as the dumpster fire we have going on right now due to left wing policies...we have self proclaimed socialists and anarchists serving in Congress.

But hey, you keep hating on Trump, it's what they want you to do.

 

[BS Wildcats]

10 minutes ago, LumRaiderFan said:

What is stupid is that you think the numbers of the folks that feel this way are as big a threat as the dumpster fire we have going on right now due to left wing policies...we have self proclaimed socialists and anarchists serving in Congress.

But hey, you keep hating on Trump, it's what they want you to do.

 

I can’t figure out why he voted for Trump twice.  Or, so he claims!

[bullets13]

3 hours ago, LumRaiderFan said:

I can see this in her case.  She has been a democrat officeholder for 20 years and the democrat party has swung wildly left in that period of time. She doesn't pretend to be a conservative, she is, without a doubt, liberal, but not liberal enough to stay with the lunatic democrat party.  Her point is that they changed, she hasn't.

I certainly get your point though, when you switch parties when the core platform principles are so far apart, it makes you not trust their voting moving forward.

I sure wouldn't want Gabbard filling a Republican seat.

Was getting on to say exactly this.  She was pretty moderate for a democrat 20 years ago, so you can only imagine how far she is from the more liberal left now.  that being said, she's also probably closer to your average Republican these days than someone like Marjorie Taylor Greene is. 

[bullets13]

53 minutes ago, LumRaiderFan said:

What is stupid is that you think the numbers of the folks that feel this way are as big a threat as the dumpster fire we have going on right now due to left wing policies...we have self proclaimed socialists and anarchists serving in Congress.

But hey, you keep hating on Trump, it's what they want you to do.

 

there's definitely just as big of a dumpster fire on the far right as there is far left.  A lot of Trump disciples won't acknowledge it because anything he says is the gospel, and he supports these radical righties, but there are some absolutely nutty conservatives in office right now.  It's going to hurt the right in the near future, during a time where they should be making massive gains.  It's already showing up in races where republicans were projected to flip seats, but are going to lose because radical conservatives backed by Trump got enough support to get the nomination, but are too radical to actually win the election.  Then again, all it takes to get his endorsement is to claim election fraud, with literally nothing else being a qualification, so it's not really a surprise that some of the goofballs he's endorsing aren't the best candidates.

[LumRaiderFan]

25 minutes ago, bullets13 said:

there's definitely just as big of a dumpster fire on the far right as there is far left.  A lot of Trump disciples won't acknowledge it because anything he says is the gospel, and he supports these radical righties, but there are some absolutely nutty conservatives in office right now.  It's going to hurt the right in the near future, during a time where they should be making massive gains.  It's already showing up in races where republicans were projected to flip seats, but are going to lose because radical conservatives backed by Trump got enough support to get the nomination, but are too radical to actually win the election.

My response was to the question of right wing policies as compared to left wing policies in relation to harm to the country and there is no comparison.

Anyone that can't decipher the difference in nutty conservatives (those crazy pro-lifers and pro-second amendment) and nutty liberals (just look around at what's happening) can't be helped and they will eventually overtake the election by sheer numbers because they vote on emotion and won't take the time to politically educate themselves.

Our country is headed down a path that can possibly be slowed but not stopped...it is what it is.

[LumRaiderFan]

36 minutes ago, bullets13 said:

Was getting on to say exactly this.  She was pretty moderate for a democrat 20 years ago, so you can only imagine how far she is from the more liberal left now.  that being said, she's also probably closer to your average Republican these days than someone like Marjorie Taylor Greene is. 

Not even close, Gabbard is a very liberal, you need to look at her voting record and not her rhetoric...Republicans haven't swung that far left...yet, anyway.

[bullets13]

4 minutes ago, LumRaiderFan said:

My response was to the question of right wing policies as compared to left wing policies in relation to harm to the country and there is no comparison.

Anyone that can't decipher the difference in nutty conservatives (those crazy pro-lifers and pro-second amendment) and nutty liberals (just look around at what's happening) can't be helped and they will eventually overtake the election by sheer numbers because they vote on emotion and won't take the time to politically educate themselves.

Our country is headed down a path that can possibly be slowed but not stopped...it is what it is.

There are plenty of pro-lifers and pro-second amendment conservatives that aren't nutty, just like there are plenty of liberals that are pro-choice and anti-gun that aren't nutty.  My point was that there are factions of extremists on both sides that are awful.  

[LumRaiderFan]

4 minutes ago, bullets13 said:

There are plenty of pro-lifers and pro-second amendment conservatives that aren't nutty, just like there are plenty of liberals that are pro-choice and anti-gun that aren't nutty.  My point was that there are factions of extremists on both sides that are awful.  

In terms of policy, the damage coming from the extreme left is much more damaging, not even close.

My life is impacted by obamacare, high inflation, higher taxes, high gas prices and an open border.  

It is not impacted by more babies being allowed to live and folks that choose to challenge the undeniably questionable election results.  I certainly won't change my stance on anything based on how the snowflake crowd may react at the polls and I wouldn't expect it out of conservative candidates.

Left wing policies destroy lives and businesses, right wing policies do not.

[5GallonBucket]

15 minutes ago, bullets13 said:

There are plenty of pro-lifers and pro-second amendment conservatives that aren't nutty, just like there are plenty of liberals that are pro-choice and anti-gun that aren't nutty.  My point was that there are factions of extremists on both sides that are awful.  

IMO pro abortion and anti gun is nutty

as well pro abortion is extreme.