NHSBulldogFan Posted November 5, 2022 Report Posted November 5, 2022 5 minutes ago, lcm93 said: Nederland needs a major change!! After starting 5-0 last year Nederland is 3-12 since thenĀ
lcm93 Posted November 5, 2022 Report Posted November 5, 2022 6 minutes ago, NHSBulldogFan said: After starting 5-0 last year Nederland is 3-12 since thenĀ It's been a steady decline since barrow took over!! dme1111 and Yzf45028 1 1
lcm93 Posted November 5, 2022 Report Posted November 5, 2022 No one fears Nederland no more !! When Neumann was coach they were dangerous and ruthless!! GoPro and piratevillain 2
NHSBulldogFan Posted November 5, 2022 Report Posted November 5, 2022 28 minutes ago, Bulldogpower said: Glad this nightmare of a season is over. Hope we donāt become a Navasota or a Lamarque. Hopefully not as we have a lot of support but this season was the worst Iv seen since I started following in 2005. Not always the top but at least competitive and we werenāt even that. Has our āstudā luck run out? The one name who carried us, the Mosleys, Krautz, Kimlers and Seays? Hope not.Ā And Fuselier...rumor has it he has a cousin playing at Central who's going to be goodĀ
Bulldogpower Posted November 5, 2022 Report Posted November 5, 2022 23 minutes ago, NHSBulldogFan said: And Fuselier...rumor has it he has a cousin playing at Central who's going to be goodĀ Many other names I could use, but yeah I didnāt hear a single standout name this year. Hopefully itās just a once in 20 year season thing this year
Bulldogpower Posted November 5, 2022 Report Posted November 5, 2022 39 minutes ago, lcm93 said: No one fears Nederland no more !! When Neumann was coach they were dangerous and ruthless!! At a minimum we were competitive. Canāt say that atm. How many times were the Ned players not able to physically compete with other teams and Ned would hang in the game just cause simply the other team was getting out coached? Thatās not the case anymore. Hope it turns around.Ā
NHSBulldogs2 Posted November 5, 2022 Report Posted November 5, 2022 This went the way THE COACH WANTED IT TO GO!! Ā You on the goal line and throw the ball to a kid who being playing defense all year, these boys only did what the coaches told them to do. Ā WHAT I SEEN TONIGHT is that leader did not want it!! That team has talent but when you donāt put it into play Well letās say I hated to see the Seniors last game went this way. Ā
dme1111 Posted November 5, 2022 Report Posted November 5, 2022 2 hours ago, Bulldogpower said: Glad this nightmare of a season is over. Hope we donāt become a Navasota or a Lamarque. Hopefully not as we have a lot of support but this season was the worst Iv seen since I started following in 2005. Not always the top but at least competitive and we werenāt even that. Has our āstudā luck run out? The one name who carried us, the Mosleys, Krautz, Kimlers and Seays? Hope not.Ā Until changes are made, we will be mediocre at best. Ā Ā There is a lot of talent choosing not to play. Ā Maybe a fresh start will bring those kids back into the program.Ā Reagan 1
NHSBulldogFan Posted November 5, 2022 Report Posted November 5, 2022 11 minutes ago, dme1111 said: Until changes are made, we will be mediocre at best. Ā Ā There is a lot of talent choosing not to play. Ā Maybe a fresh start will bring those kids back into the program.Ā The next school board meeting is November 14th at 6pm I've heard several people want to speak to the school board about the state of the football program...IMO and I'm in the minority here but I think Barrow should be given another year with the understanding that an offensive coordinator should be hired our offense was Bobby August bad this yearĀ KF89 and Rez 2
piratevillain Posted November 5, 2022 Report Posted November 5, 2022 hope the dogs get it turned around next year!!Ā NHSBulldogFan 1
Reagan Posted November 5, 2022 Report Posted November 5, 2022 1 hour ago, NHSBulldogFan said: The next school board meeting is November 14th at 6pm I've heard several people want to speak to the school board about the state of the football program...IMO and I'm in the minority here but I think Barrow should be given another year with the understanding that an offensive coordinator should be hired our offense was Bobby August bad this yearĀ Look, I think he did a good job as an OC under Neumann.Ā BUT, it's a whole different world when you are in charge of the overall program.Ā He's had his time to develop "his" program.Ā But... I will be making my views known to the Superintendent and certain board members.Ā Ā I may go to the board meeting and see what is said.Ā Ā NHSBulldogFan and TrojanMoJo 2
KF89 Posted November 6, 2022 Report Posted November 6, 2022 On 11/5/2022 at 12:54 AM, Reagan said: Look, I think he did a good job as an OC under Neumann.Ā BUT, it's a whole different world when you are in charge of the overall program.Ā He's had his time to develop "his" program.Ā But... I will be making my views known to the Superintendent and certain board members.Ā Ā I may go to the board meeting and see what is said.Ā Ā "Hey, KF89, back in the Nederland/Dayton thread I asked this of you and haven't got a response:Ā "So, what do you have personal here with Nederland?Ā You work there?Ā You have relatives on the staff?Ā You have relatives within the district?Ā Are you personal friends with any of the coaches?"Ā Ā What say you?!" Since i was asked this question by ole Reagan & answered it, seems fair to ask you the same & you answer? Do you have the stones to let these coaches know who you are demanding they be fired?Ā Will you be making your views to put these coaches in the unemployment line known in person to Ole Stuart K. & certain school board members or do it anonymously also? Don't be scared man, you are a tax payer with love & passion for the success of Nederland football that has a right to speak your mind & put your name on it. What say you?! Who you is?!š Mike Hiltz Ā Ā Ā GoPro 1
Gametime5 Posted November 6, 2022 Report Posted November 6, 2022 Nederland has always wanted to keep those jobs in house and keep assistant coaches that were friends of high up administration. Neumann is a legend for a reason and well deserved. However , the program has gone down since he left and Nederland isnāt really intimidating to play anymore. Itās a proud program, great community , I mean yāall do it right. Class act. Just got to get a new and fresh start in the football program with a new leader and some new assistant coaches. Ā Itās time. The program is at an all time low, and Bulldog Football is too proud and too historically tough to remain in that shape. Good luck.Ā dme1111 and Reagan 2
NHSBulldogFan Posted November 6, 2022 Report Posted November 6, 2022 4 hours ago, Gametime5 said: Nederland has always wanted to keep those jobs in house and keep assistant coaches that were friends of high up administration. Neumann is a legend for a reason and well deserved. However , the program has gone down since he left and Nederland isnāt really intimidating to play anymore. Itās a proud program, great community , I mean yāall do it right. Class act. Just got to get a new and fresh start in the football program with a new leader and some new assistant coaches. Ā Itās time. The program is at an all time low, and Bulldog Football is too proud and too historically tough to remain in that shape. Good luck.Ā I wouldn't say all time low we've seen worse *cough Bobby August cough*Ā Reagan 1
A BUC 77 Posted November 8, 2022 Report Posted November 8, 2022 I truly believe this is a unfortunate year. Ā Little senior or junior leadership. Ā Is it the coaches fault. Ownership runs up hill. Ā I donāt have the right answers and been out of the loop for a few years. Ā Iād say give it another year. Ā Monty has a great football mind. I think with the right support decisions will be made. Ā
Bigdog Posted November 8, 2022 Report Posted November 8, 2022 Lets bring it down a notch guys.Ā Ā Also to @Gametime5, Neumann was an outside hire and chose his assistants.Ā Ā Barrows record:Ā And before you say that some of the record is Neumann's kids, he went 9-3 , three rounds deep and shared a DC in 2020.Ā The wheels fell off this year but all the young kids got valuable experience that will help them the next two years. 2017 Ā Ā Ā TH Ā Ā Ā Ā Ā Ā 8-3-0 Ā Ā Ā Ā 362-216 Ā Ā Ā Ā Monte Barrow 2018 Ā Ā Ā R-- Ā Ā Ā Ā 10-2-0 Ā Ā Ā Ā 395-278 Ā Ā Ā Ā Monte Barrow 2019 Ā Ā Ā F-- Ā Ā Ā Ā Ā 4-7-0 Ā Ā Ā Ā 270-300 Ā Ā Ā Ā Monte Barrow 2020 Ā Ā CO/C Ā Ā Ā Ā Ā 9-3-0 Ā Ā Ā Ā 385-254 Ā Ā Ā Ā Monte Barrow 2021 Ā Ā Ā Ā Ā Ā Ā Ā Ā Ā Ā 6-4-0 Ā Ā Ā Ā 275-234 Ā Ā Ā Ā Monte Barrow Reagan and outanup 1 1
Rez Posted November 8, 2022 Report Posted November 8, 2022 In defense of Barrow, most coaches have a down year here and there. Next year and the year after Nederland is going to tear into people and weāll be saying what a good job Barrow is doing. Weāre talking about high school kids. Itās not always obvious what causes things to go down in a single season. If it was 2-8 every year the arrow points more to Barrow. But a single season canāt define him. Nederland will be fine.
spidersal Posted November 8, 2022 Report Posted November 8, 2022 IMO, the major reason for the 2-8 season was due to having to play too many young players. The majority of those players realistically should have been playing on the JV team.Ā The only issue I have with the entire coaching staff is the fact fundamentals weāre lacking. I am sure they were trying to teach them, but whether it was caused by youth or strength or a combination, they were lacking. After a 14 week regular season, they were still dropping passes, throwing bad passes, missing blocks and tackles, etc. They need a very good offseason, getting quicker and stronger. Ā If they do I see 5 or 6 wins next season with a possible chance of making the playoffs. They will still have a difficult time with Marshall, Dayton, PNG, and Texas City, and PAM, however they should win the other games
Bigdog Posted November 9, 2022 Report Posted November 9, 2022 17 hours ago, spidersal said: IMO, the major reason for the 2-8 season was due to having to play too many young players. The majority of those players realistically should have been playing on the JV team.Ā The only issue I have with the entire coaching staff is the fact fundamentals weāre lacking. I am sure they were trying to teach them, but whether it was caused by youth or strength or a combination, they were lacking. After a 14 week regular season, they were still dropping passes, throwing bad passes, missing blocks and tackles, etc. They need a very good offseason, getting quicker and stronger. Ā If they do I see 5 or 6 wins next season with a possible chance of making the playoffs. They will still have a difficult time with Marshall, Dayton, PNG, and Texas City, and PAM, however they should win the other games It doesn't happen often, but I agree with pretty much that whole statement. NHSBulldogFan 1
Reagan Posted November 11, 2022 Report Posted November 11, 2022 On 11/6/2022 at 11:42 AM, KF89 said: "Hey, KF89, back in the Nederland/Dayton thread I asked this of you and haven't got a response:Ā "So, what do you have personal here with Nederland?Ā You work there?Ā You have relatives on the staff?Ā You have relatives within the district?Ā Are you personal friends with any of the coaches?"Ā Ā What say you?!" Since i was asked this question by ole Reagan & answered it, seems fair to ask you the same & you answer? Do you have the stones to let these coaches know who you are demanding they be fired?Ā Will you be making your views to put these coaches in the unemployment line known in person to Ole Stuart K. & certain school board members or do it anonymously also? Don't be scared man, you are a tax payer with love & passion for the success of Nederland football that has a right to speak your mind & put your name on it. What say you?! Who you is?!š Mike Hiltz Ā Ā Ā I've said many times that there is NEVER anything personal when I make judgement statements.Ā I don't even know the Ned coach.Ā I might be able to pick him out of a lineup 1 out of 10 times.Ā I like it this way.Ā This way my thoughts can be based on performance only.Ā If Nederland was able to challenge, which they can't, for the State Title every year, then we wouldn't be having these conversations now would we!Ā Ā Now, I do applaud your ability to type your name.Ā But -- it doesn't make your OPINION, just like mine, any better or any worst than anyone else's?!
KF89 Posted November 11, 2022 Report Posted November 11, 2022 1 minute ago, Reagan said: I've said many times that there is NEVER anything personal when I make judgement statements.Ā I don't even know the Ned coach.Ā I might be able to pick him out of a lineup 1 out of 10 times.Ā I like it this way.Ā This way my thoughts can be based on performance only.Ā If Nederland was able to challenge, which they can't, for the State Title every year, then we wouldn't be having these conversations now would we!Ā Ā Now, I do applaud your ability to type your name.Ā But -- it doesn't make your OPINION, just like mine, any better or any worst than anyone else's! If you are constantly making judgement statements that the Nederland coaches are incompetent at their jobs & you state you will be talking to their bosses\school board members to fire them all, I believe you have taken it from an opinion to the level of strongly personal. My only opinion on this matter is be a man & state your name if you want to keep judging grown men & bashing their abilities to do their jobs as high school coaches\teachers. Now, I do applaud you for your ability to admit your ignorance on your knowledge of the Nederland coach\coaches, You can not even pick them out of a lineup, but you are willing to go demand they lose their jobs at school board meetings.Ā If your scared or embarrassed of your real identity, just admit it man,ššš Mike Hiltz- Nederland Tax PayerĀ Reagan 1
Reagan Posted November 11, 2022 Report Posted November 11, 2022 4 hours ago, KF89 said: If you are constantly making judgement statements that the Nederland coaches are incompetent at their jobs & you state you will be talking to their bosses\school board members to fire them all, I believe you have taken it from an opinion to the level of strongly personal. My only opinion on this matter is be a man & state your name if you want to keep judging grown men & bashing their abilities to do their jobs as high school coaches\teachers. Now, I do applaud you for your ability to admit your ignorance on your knowledge of the Nederland coach\coaches, You can not even pick them out of a lineup, but you are willing to go demand they lose their jobs at school board meetings.Ā If your scared or embarrassed of your real identity, just admit it man,ššš Mike Hiltz- Nederland Tax PayerĀ Yours is a personal bias and mine is performance related.Ā Ā You've heard the old saying about the definition of Insanity?!Ā Saying and doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results.Ā This is the situation right now with Nederland.Ā If you and others are OK with that then, again, that's your opinion.Ā Ā Oh, BTW -- you don't feel people should be fired for cause?Ā I hope there aren't a lot of people in Nederland that have that same opinion.Ā Ā PS:Ā I already have made a rough draft of the letter I'll be sending to The Super and a few board members.Ā In that letter I'll state my opinion and ask for a personal meeting with each.Ā BTW,Ā I've done this in the past.Ā Ā Ill be doing this while some will be keeping their heads in the sand! Signed;Ā Taxpayer and all around good guy!Ā Ā Ā
KF89 Posted November 12, 2022 Report Posted November 12, 2022 7 hours ago, Reagan said: Yours is a personal bias and mine is performance related.Ā Ā You've heard the old saying about the definition of Insanity?!Ā Saying and doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results.Ā This is the situation right now with Nederland.Ā If you and others are OK with that then, again, that's your opinion.Ā Ā Oh, BTW -- you don't feel people should be fired for cause?Ā I hope there aren't a lot of people in Nederland that have that same opinion.Ā Ā PS:Ā I already have made a rough draft of the letter I'll be sending to The Super and a few board members.Ā In that letter I'll state my opinion and ask for a personal meeting with each.Ā BTW,Ā I've done this in the past.Ā Ā Ill be doing this while some will be keeping their heads in the sand! Signed;Ā Taxpayer and all around good guy!Ā Ā Ā You should bring me that rough draft & let me proof read it to correct all the bs & mistakes in it before you send it, I wouldn't want all your personal time & effort you have put in to getting a coaching staff fired wasted & ruin your all around good guy name.Ā BTW-- Will you be signing this letter with your real name & will you be reading this letter to the community at the next school board meeting?Ā P.S.- If all the coaches got fired tomorrow, I wouldn't lose any sleep or write a letter to anyone, it's not that personal to me.Ā All I am saying is if you going to all this trouble to go after grown men's jobs, be a man & put your name on it like you asked me.Ā If your scared to man up, just admit itĀ š Mike HiltzĀ Reagan 1
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