PhatMack19 Posted November 9, 2022 Report Posted November 9, 2022 Republicans need to dump Trump. Him celebrating Republican losses last night of those that didn’t go along with him is not a good look. Bobcat1 and Big girl 2 Quote
bullets13 Posted November 9, 2022 Report Posted November 9, 2022 50 minutes ago, baddog said: I know you want to be fair. How many Obama, Biden, Hillary backed candidates lost, or are they insignificant for your assessment? it's a different situation completely. across the country republicans ran out a string of less-qualified, more extremist candidates that were backed by trump solely because they fed into his election denial. The majority of the candidates he endorsed that were involved in tight races lost, whereas many of those races would've gone to the right had a traditional republican candidate been on the ballot. if you choose not to understand that, then that's fine. but ignoring the obvious is what cost us the red wave in the first place. Big girl and Bobcat1 2 Quote
CardinalBacker Posted November 9, 2022 Report Posted November 9, 2022 27 minutes ago, baddog said: I know you want to be fair. How many Obama, Biden, Hillary backed candidates lost, or are they insignificant for your assessment? None. Because you don't even realize what happened. Traditionally the Party (and more importantly the "figurehead" of the party" don't endorse any candidates during the primary process... that's where the parties are deciding who their candidate will be in the general election against the "other" party. Trump made it a point to endorse politicians in the PRIMARY process, and all you had to do was deny the election results and pledge your honor to his Trumpness and in return he'd get his red-hatted fools to vote for you. It worked out all over the place. Trump's hand-picked candidates secured the nomination of the Republican Party, but then performed poorly in the general election. bullets13 and Big girl 1 1 Quote
LumRaiderFan Posted November 9, 2022 Report Posted November 9, 2022 1 hour ago, PhatMack19 said: Republicans need to dump Trump. Him celebrating Republican losses last night of those that didn’t go along with him is not a good look. Agree with this, he just can’t help himself. I still can’t excuse voters that choose what’s detrimental to the country because they get butt-hurt but come on. bullets13, CardinalBacker, 5GallonBucket and 1 other 2 2 Quote
CardinalBacker Posted November 9, 2022 Report Posted November 9, 2022 12 minutes ago, LumRaiderFan said: Agree with this, he just can’t help himself. I still can’t excuse voters that choose what’s detrimental to the country because they get butt-hurt but come on. Are you talking about the ones that vote D or the ones that vote Trump? Because there's really not a difference. A vote cast for an opponent that can't win is a wasted vote. I think that I'm just saying what a lot of people think... and it sounds like a lot of people who have been Trump since day one might be coming around on the idea. The buffoonery just got old. He's literally that guy from high school that was kinda funny and always had a nickname for people that stuck.... and then we all got extra homework because of him. Big girl and bullets13 1 1 Quote
AggiesAreWe Posted November 9, 2022 Report Posted November 9, 2022 Bottom line, there was no tsunami and most of the blame is at Trump's feet. The red side need's to dump Trump and hitch their wagon to a better candidate. Too many voters are voting against and not for. That's the problem. Big girl, bullets13 and CardinalBacker 2 1 Quote
CardinalBacker Posted November 9, 2022 Report Posted November 9, 2022 1 minute ago, AggiesAreWe said: Bottom line, there was no tsunami and most of the blame is at Trump's feet. The red side need's to dump Trump and hitch their wagon to a better candidate. Too many voters are voting against and not for. That's the problem. Did we just become best friends? Quote
baddog Posted November 9, 2022 Report Posted November 9, 2022 1 hour ago, bullets13 said: it's a different situation completely. across the country republicans ran out a string of less-qualified, more extremist candidates that were backed by trump solely because they fed into his election denial. The majority of the candidates he endorsed that were involved in tight races lost, whereas many of those races would've gone to the right had a traditional republican candidate been on the ballot. if you choose not to understand that, then that's fine. but ignoring the obvious is what cost us the red wave in the first place. Gee, I thought there was an answer in there somewhere. I haven’t seen where election denial was a requirement for Trump backing. The whole thing is, people will research which candidates lose that were Trump backed and totally ignore who lost with elite democrat backing. I have no trouble seeing where you stand. Trump is everyone’s scapegoat. Running both parties the wrong way is what I like about him anyway. He can’t be bought and that means everything to me. Everyone else will sell this country to the highest bidder and spit in your face while doing it Big girl and bullets13 2 Quote
CardinalBacker Posted November 9, 2022 Report Posted November 9, 2022 17 minutes ago, baddog said: Gee, I thought there was an answer in there somewhere. I haven’t seen where election denial was a requirement for Trump backing. The whole thing is, people will research which candidates lose that were Trump backed and totally ignore who lost with elite democrat backing. I have no trouble seeing where you stand. Trump is everyone’s scapegoat. Running both parties the wrong way is what I like about him anyway. He can’t be bought and that means everything to me. Everyone else will sell this country to the highest bidder and spit in your face while doing it Trump supporters love him because he's the jerk that they don't have the balls to be in real life.....then they cry that he's a "scapegoat" when the consequences of his actions come around to bite him in the butt. And for what it's worth, Trump is the biggest face-spitter that our country has ever seen. It's so comical that you believe that he "can't be bought" when literally everything he has is for sale for the right price. Want some nuclear codes? Pay me. Need a place to house my secret service agents? Pay me. You're right... he's not for sale. He's all about Trump, and does it by tricking people into believing that he's America First, Pro-Life, Christian, etc.... And his fanboys just keep lapping it up. bullets13, LumRaiderFan and Big girl 2 1 Quote
PAMFAM10 Posted November 9, 2022 Report Posted November 9, 2022 Desantis or bust.. for republicans in 24 (will trump allow it?) Quote
LumRaiderFan Posted November 9, 2022 Report Posted November 9, 2022 26 minutes ago, AggiesAreWe said: Bottom line, there was no tsunami and most of the blame is at Trump's feet. The red side need's to dump Trump and hitch their wagon to a better candidate. Too many voters are voting against and not for. That's the problem. Wrong, the results lie at the voter’s feet. A guy like O’Rourke got 44% of the vote in a state like Texas. Is that Trump’s fault? TDS does literally blind folks to what’s happening. Quote
baddog Posted November 9, 2022 Report Posted November 9, 2022 22 minutes ago, CardinalBacker said: Trump supporters love him because he's the jerk that they don't have the balls to be in real life.....then they cry that he's a "scapegoat" when the consequences of his actions come around to bite him in the butt. And for what it's worth, Trump is the biggest face-spitter that our country has ever seen. It's so comical that you believe that he "can't be bought" when literally everything he has is for sale for the right price. Want some nuclear codes? Pay me. Need a place to house my secret service agents? Pay me. You're right... he's not for sale. He's all about Trump, and does it by tricking people into believing that he's America First, Pro-Life, Christian, etc.... And his fanboys just keep lapping it up. Man, at least we aren’t lapping up the baby killers and genital whackers. How did Trump spit in your face? He didn’t. It just makes you feel good to run your mouth, and that’s all you are. Is that balls enough for you? You wouldn’t make a pimple on Trump’s arse. Quote
Unwoke Posted November 9, 2022 Report Posted November 9, 2022 A society is a result of its culture. It’s culture is a result of what it’s institutions incentivize and what they disincentive. Every American institution has been taken by cultural Marxists. The country trends that way. Protect what you can. Abandon what you cannot. 5GallonBucket 1 Quote
BS Wildcats Posted November 9, 2022 Report Posted November 9, 2022 53 minutes ago, PAMFAM10 said: Desantis or bust.. for republicans in 24 (will trump allow it?) DeSantis gets my vote. As much good as Trump did in his four years, he can’t/won’t win. bullets13 1 Quote
AggiesAreWe Posted November 9, 2022 Report Posted November 9, 2022 20 minutes ago, BS Wildcats said: DeSantis gets my vote. As much good as Trump did in his four years, he can’t/won’t win. and that is my point. The Red needs to hitch to another candidate to right this wrong. There's just too much against Trump to win an election. bullets13 and Big girl 1 1 Quote
Unwoke Posted November 9, 2022 Report Posted November 9, 2022 All this Trump v. DeSantis talk is juicy, but under the hood, there's a far more pressing issue: Democrats fortified their COVID mass mail-in-voting apparatus. It's a vote-harvesting juggernaut that will continue to produce competitive results no matter the GOP nominee. 5GallonBucket 1 Quote
BS Wildcats Posted November 9, 2022 Report Posted November 9, 2022 10 minutes ago, AggiesAreWe said: and that is my point. The Red needs to hitch to another candidate to right this wrong. There's just too much against Trump to win an election. With that said, a lot of what is against Trump is made up 💩 from the other side of the aisle. There is no denying what they did! Quote
bullets13 Posted November 9, 2022 Report Posted November 9, 2022 4 hours ago, baddog said: Gee, I thought there was an answer in there somewhere. I haven’t seen where election denial was a requirement for Trump backing. The whole thing is, people will research which candidates lose that were Trump backed and totally ignore who lost with elite democrat backing. I have no trouble seeing where you stand. Trump is everyone’s scapegoat. Running both parties the wrong way is what I like about him anyway. He can’t be bought and that means everything to me. Everyone else will sell this country to the highest bidder and spit in your face while doing it you see what you want to see, that much is clear. It's not who backed who, but why. The Donald backed poor candidates who were willing to toe the orange line and claim election fraud. Those weak candidates won nominations based on his support, but lost elections the right should've and would've won had they put forward decent candidates. Instead of acknowledging this, it's just more of the same "low information voter" nonsense. It would take some low information voters to elect some of the nutballs that Trump backed. CardinalBacker 1 Quote
LumRaiderFan Posted November 9, 2022 Report Posted November 9, 2022 6 hours ago, bullets13 said: The red tsunami ran into the orange road block. If trump had put his time and influence into backing the best candidates instead of the best election deniers, the red wave would’ve come to fruition. Democrats won almost every major election where trump backed someone. In most cases, his influence was enough to get his pick on the ballot, but also a kiss of death in the actual election. For all of their dumb choices and terrible policies, the dems correctly saw this coming, and their gamble to help endorse election deniers has paid off by greatly reducing the amount of seats the republicans were able to flip. Isn’t it sad that we’re in a time where being deceptive about your policies and dirty tricks are considered great political tactics. Quote
Unwoke Posted November 9, 2022 Report Posted November 9, 2022 Red states got Redder and Blue states got bluer. Conservative minded people are fleeing these blue areas to red areas which is not leaving enough votes to overturn the crazy policies. Quote
PhatMack19 Posted November 9, 2022 Report Posted November 9, 2022 Maricopa County said they should have 99% of the votes counted by Friday. Florida counted their whole damn state in 3 hours. That’s ridiculous Quote
bullets13 Posted November 9, 2022 Report Posted November 9, 2022 “Don Bolduc was a very nice guy, but he lost tonight when he disavowed, after his big primary win, his longstanding stance on Election Fraud in the 2020 Presidential Primary,” Trump wrote on Truth Social, This is the hidden content, please Sign In or Sign Up . “Had he stayed strong and true, he would have won easily. Lessons Learned!!!” Quote
BS Wildcats Posted November 9, 2022 Report Posted November 9, 2022 25 minutes ago, PhatMack19 said: Maricopa County said they should have 99% of the votes counted by Friday. Florida counted their whole damn state in 3 hours. That’s ridiculous Makes you wonder does it not, CardinalBacker? Quote
bullets13 Posted November 9, 2022 Report Posted November 9, 2022 1 minute ago, bullets13 said: “Don Bolduc was a very nice guy, but he lost tonight when he disavowed, after his big primary win, his longstanding stance on Election Fraud in the 2020 Presidential Primary,” Trump wrote on Truth Social, This is the hidden content, please Sign In or Sign Up . “Had he stayed strong and true, he would have won easily. Lessons Learned!!!” Just shows what it took to get Trump's support, and also how delusional he is to think that voicing that stance is all it takes to win, even though nearly every candidate he endorsed that was in a competitive race lost. Quote
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