Trump Running in 2024

[Reagan]

@Big girl @UT alum @DonTheCon2024 @CardinalBacker

[CardinalBacker]

See, here’s the difference between us. I don’t see a whole lot of difference between claims of corruption at the Clinton Foundation, Whitewater,  Russian Collusion, or Hunter’s Laptop. 
 

Is it crazy that “they” would put on a whole bunch of unfounded allegations (which they whole-heartedly believe) when “we” also put out a whole bunch of allegations of our own (which we whole-heartedly believe) when neither turns out to be proven?

I’m not surprised.  

[UT alum]

17 hours ago, Reagan said:

@Big girl @UT alum @DonTheCon2024 @CardinalBacker

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I’ll never believe a word the man says. If his lips are moving, he’s lying.

[LumRaiderFan]

11 hours ago, CardinalBacker said:

See, here’s the difference between us. I don’t see a whole lot of difference between claims of corruption at the Clinton Foundation, Whitewater,  Russian Collusion, or Hunter’s Laptop. 
 

Is it crazy that “they” would put on a whole bunch of unfounded allegations (which they whole-heartedly believe) when “we” also put out a whole bunch of allegations of our own (which we whole-heartedly believe) when neither turns out to be proven?

I’m not surprised.  

No difference other than there was no Russian collusion and was simply made up compliments of the Clinton campaign and Hunter’s laptop actually showed business dealings in Ukraine that directly involved the big man.

Yeah, no difference, lol.

[CardinalBacker]

13 hours ago, LumRaiderFan said:

No difference other than there was no Russian collusion and was simply made up compliments of the Clinton campaign and Hunter’s laptop actually showed business dealings in Ukraine that directly involved the big man.

Yeah, no difference, lol.

Like I said... you wholeheartedly believe anything that's written about Hunter Biden regardless of evidence, proof, etc.... Just because somebody said it, it has to be true, right?  I mean, some guy with a computer repair shop says it, and that's as good as gospel, right? Let's have an investigation.   But then you turn around and say "how dare they investigate Trump!"  I'll be honest... i have a hard time differentiating between Trump/Rudy's "quid pro quo" with Ukraine and the allegations that are being made about Hunter Biden/the Big Guy.  Other than the fact that Biden is accused of doing it earlier than Trump is accused of doing it.  

Kenneth Starr went after the Clintons for years and got nothing.  All of this talk about the Clinton Foundation yielded nothing.  To date the Hunter Biden investigation yielded nothing.  Russian Collusion yielded nothing.   

About the only thing that I can see gaining any real traction is Trump's voter issues in Georgia.... They have him on tape telling the AG to "find" the exact number of votes that he needed to win GA (but still lose the election, btw).  That's actual evidence, not hearsay, wild speculation, tall tale, half truth, or absolute lie.  They have the actual call recorded.    

[LumRaiderFan]

17 minutes ago, CardinalBacker said:

Like I said... you wholeheartedly believe anything that's written about Hunter Biden regardless of evidence, proof, etc.... Just because somebody said it, it has to be true, right?  I mean, some guy with a computer repair shop says it, and that's as good as gospel, right? Let's have an investigation.   But then you turn around and say "how dare they investigate Trump!"  I'll be honest... i have a hard time differentiating between Trump/Rudy's "quid pro quo" with Ukraine and the allegations that are being made about Hunter Biden/the Big Guy.  Other than the fact that Biden is accused of doing it earlier than Trump is accused of doing it.  

Kenneth Starr went after the Clintons for years and got nothing.  All of this talk about the Clinton Foundation yielded nothing.  To date the Hunter Biden investigation yielded nothing.  Russian Collusion yielded nothing.   

About the only thing that I can see gaining any real traction is Trump's voter issues in Georgia.... They have him on tape telling the AG to "find" the exact number of votes that he needed to win GA (but still lose the election, btw).  That's actual evidence, not hearsay, wild speculation, tall tale, half truth, or absolute lie.  They have the actual call recorded.    

You seem to still be naïve enough to think no prosecution means nothing was there.

And I have never said, how dare they investigate Trump, there you go again.

Hunter's own business partner said Biden was involved, there are visits to the White house that back it up.

Sorry you can't see the corruption involving the Biden family, you and UT alum seem to have a lot in common.

Cue 1,2,3 but but but Trump.

By the way, Clinton was a debase pervert that actually lied to the Grand Jury about not being able to control himself with his 21 year old intern, sad thing is, I've seen you speak admiringly about him.

[CardinalBacker]

4 minutes ago, LumRaiderFan said:

You seem to still be naïve enough to think no prosecution means nothing was there.

And I have never said, how dare they investigate Trump, there you go again.

Hunter's own business partner said Biden was involved, there are visits to the White house that back it up.

Sorry you can't see the corruption involving the Biden family, you and UT alum seem to have a lot in common.

Cue 1,2,3 but but but Trump.

By the way, Clinton was a debase pervert that actually lied to the Grand Jury about not being able to control himself with his 21 year old intern, sad thing is, I've seen you speak admiringly about him.

But you're still all about the guy said "grab 'em by the p-word," said Megyn Kelly was probably menstruating when she asked him tough questions, insulted Ted Cruz's wife, cheated on his wife with a porn star, and recently lost a civil case over one of many (unproven) sexual assault allegations. I think that's a little bit worse than getting a little sloppy-toppy from a slightly overweight yet remarkably average looking intern.  At least JFK was bagging dimes.  

 

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Your guy is a piece of crap and you can't even admit it.  

[LumRaiderFan]

26 minutes ago, CardinalBacker said:

But you're still all about the guy said "grab 'em by the p-word," said Megyn Kelly was probably menstruating when she asked him tough questions, insulted Ted Cruz's wife, cheated on his wife with a porn star, and recently lost a civil case over one of many (unproven) sexual assault allegations. I think that's a little bit worse than getting a little sloppy-toppy from a slightly overweight yet remarkably average looking intern.  At least JFK was bagging dimes.  

 

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Your guy is a piece of crap and you can't even admit it.  

I guess you missed the fact that I have said many times I would like him to step aside and let DeSantis have it.  (gotta work around you snowflakes)

Hard to debate when you refuse to listen and continue to make crap up.

Both are bad, but it's laughable that you think cheating with a porn star is worse than pressuring a 21 year old as President while ALSO cheating on your wife simply because it's Bill Clinton, whom you seem to admire.

Can't get out of your own way,

[Unwoke]

This article here explains why the Republican or Democrat candidate doesn’t matter. It’s all about the ballot harvesting.

 

[LumRaiderFan]

3 hours ago, Unwoke said:

This article here explains why the Republican or Democrat candidate doesn’t matter. It’s all about the ballot harvesting.

 

Agree, there are some that have been duped into believing that if we will simply nominate a snowflake approved candidate all will be well.

Nope, the snowflakes are still there.

[BS Wildcats]

On 5/18/2023 at 9:50 AM, CardinalBacker said:

Like I said... you wholeheartedly believe anything that's written about Hunter Biden regardless of evidence, proof, etc.... Just because somebody said it, it has to be true, right?  I mean, some guy with a computer repair shop says it, and that's as good as gospel, right? Let's have an investigation.   But then you turn around and say "how dare they investigate Trump!"  I'll be honest... i have a hard time differentiating between Trump/Rudy's "quid pro quo" with Ukraine and the allegations that are being made about Hunter Biden/the Big Guy.  Other than the fact that Biden is accused of doing it earlier than Trump is accused of doing it.  

Kenneth Starr went after the Clintons for years and got nothing.  All of this talk about the Clinton Foundation yielded nothing.  To date the Hunter Biden investigation yielded nothing.  Russian Collusion yielded nothing.   

About the only thing that I can see gaining any real traction is Trump's voter issues in Georgia.... They have him on tape telling the AG to "find" the exact number of votes that he needed to win GA (but still lose the election, btw).  That's actual evidence, not hearsay, wild speculation, tall tale, half truth, or absolute lie.  They have the actual call recorded.    

And you wholeheartedly agree there was Russian collusion involving Trump?  

[CardinalBacker]

14 hours ago, BS Wildcats said:

And you wholeheartedly agree there was Russian collusion involving Trump?  

No, I’m confident that “collusion” happens all of the time… whether it’s Russians meddling in ours or the US meddling in others. I haven’t forgotten “tell Vladimir I’ll have more flexibility after the election.”

[Unwoke]

Yep…

 

[BS Wildcats]

5 hours ago, CardinalBacker said:

No, I’m confident that “collusion” happens all of the time… whether it’s Russians meddling in ours or the US meddling in others. I haven’t forgotten “tell Vladimir I’ll have more flexibility after the election.”

But, the Dimocrats use the lie, knowing, to push their sham impeachment agenda.  Everyone one of them should be removed from office and prosecuted.  And, there are some Republicans that need to be in that mix as well.  The sad thing is that there is proof of joe and his son’s illegalities, but like the media, you tend to ignore them, the same way the M.I.A. big girl does.

 

 

[CardinalBacker]

This article is saying what I’ve been saying for a year or two now. 
 

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Hate the source if you want, but it’s pretty hard to deny that any of it is patently false. 

[5GallonBucket]

47 minutes ago, CardinalBacker said:

This article is saying what I’ve been saying for a year or two now. 
 

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Hate the source if you want, but it’s pretty hard to deny that any of it is patently false. 

Yep and things will only get worse with liberals in control so let’s blame those that vote conservative.

maybe this is what we need to wake up the Democratic voters to leave that party and the destructive path it has chosen.

why not have a 3rd party???  
 

growing pains will have to be endured

 

[LumRaiderFan]

14 minutes ago, 5GallonBucket said:

Yep and things will only get worse with liberals in control so let’s blame those that vote conservative.

maybe this is what we need to wake up the Democratic voters to leave that party and the destructive path it has chosen.

why not have a 3rd party???  
 

growing pains will have to be endured

 

Funny how he places blame on the folks that have been proven to have made the choice that was without a doubt best for the country.

No doubt growing pains will come, a new candidate won't fix the problem we have.

Seems that someone's TDS is flaring, lol.

[Eagle11]

2 hours ago, CardinalBacker said:

This article is saying what I’ve been saying for a year or two now. 
 

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Hate the source if you want, but it’s pretty hard to deny that any of it is patently false. 

This is the major issue within the repub party as I see it........if it isn't my favorite candidate, I am not going to vote. 

Say what you want to about the Dim's, but they will unite no matter how much infighting they went through in the primary. They will come together no matter how crappy the candidate is. Insert Biden.

Now, that being said, my issue with going outside my preferred candidate is if they are a RINO. Insert Romney and McCain.

[CardinalBacker]

12 minutes ago, Eagle11 said:

This is the major issue within the repub party as I see it........if it isn't my favorite candidate, I am not going to vote. 

Say what you want to about the Dim's, but they will unite no matter how much infighting they went through in the primary. They will come together no matter how crappy the candidate is. Insert Biden.

Now, that being said, my issue with going outside my preferred candidate is if they are a RINO. Insert Romney and McCain.

You were right on point up until this.  

 

That's the thing that you don't hear democrats doing.  Bernie's peeps got right in there behind Hillary, then Biden.  Rs always find a way to leave their guy hanging.  

[CardinalBacker]

1 hour ago, 5GallonBucket said:

Yep and things will only get worse with liberals in control so let’s blame those that vote conservative.

maybe this is what we need to wake up the Democratic voters to leave that party and the destructive path it has chosen.

why not have a 3rd party???  
 

growing pains will have to be endured

 

Were you alive in 1992?  Perot was Trump before Trump was Trump.  He basically split the R vote and gave Slick Willie a easy path into the White House.  

You can look back at Perot versus the Repulicans (Bush One)... Advantage Democrats

Tea Party vs. "Rinos".... Advantage Democrats

MAGA versus the Republicans.... Advantage Democrats

 

You're not going to "convince" Democrats to jump ship for an extreme candidate.  Right this minute DeSantis is fighting with Mickey Mouse.  Like.... he's picking a fight with the "Happiest Place on Earth."  The one that most people have either been to, or hope to one day go... and DeSantis is throwing down his gloves and asking the populace to take a side.  

You can bury your head in the sand and say "But Ron DeSantis is RIGHT!  And that's all that matters!!!!"  And he'll be right up until he gives his concession speech, either in the primaries or in the General.  Being "Right" doesn't mean anything when you're not in power. 

[LumRaiderFan]

17 minutes ago, CardinalBacker said:

Were you alive in 1992?  Perot was Trump before Trump was Trump.  He basically split the R vote and gave Slick Willie a easy path into the White House.  

You can look back at Perot versus the Repulicans (Bush One)... Advantage Democrats

Tea Party vs. "Rinos".... Advantage Democrats

MAGA versus the Republicans.... Advantage Democrats

 

You're not going to "convince" Democrats to jump ship for an extreme candidate.  Right this minute DeSantis is fighting with Mickey Mouse.  Like.... he's picking a fight with the "Happiest Place on Earth."  The one that most people have either been to, or hope to one day go... and DeSantis is throwing down his gloves and asking the populace to take a side.  

You can bury your head in the sand and say "But Ron DeSantis is RIGHT!  And that's all that matters!!!!"  And he'll be right up until he gives his concession speech, either in the primaries or in the General.  Being "Right" doesn't mean anything when you're not in power. 

What a sad way to go through life.

These democrats are degenerates, but I'm with them because their guy is in power.

Most telling post I've seen from you.

[CardinalBacker]

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This guy, for instance. Once the white supremacist (who are typically Republican) say “no,” then the guys who want somebody who picks fights with everybody say “no,” this guy won’t even have a chance. 
 

Want to grab the middle? Find a guy like this. Prolly a “rino,” to y’all, though. 

[Unwoke]

2 hours ago, CardinalBacker said:

Were you alive in 1992?  Perot was Trump before Trump was Trump.  He basically split the R vote and gave Slick Willie a easy path into the White House.  

You can look back at Perot versus the Repulicans (Bush One)... Advantage Democrats

Tea Party vs. "Rinos".... Advantage Democrats

MAGA versus the Republicans.... Advantage Democrats

 

You're not going to "convince" Democrats to jump ship for an extreme candidate.  Right this minute DeSantis is fighting with Mickey Mouse.  Like.... he's picking a fight with the "Happiest Place on Earth."  The one that most people have either been to, or hope to one day go... and DeSantis is throwing down his gloves and asking the populace to take a side.  

You can bury your head in the sand and say "But Ron DeSantis is RIGHT!  And that's all that matters!!!!"  And he'll be right up until he gives his concession speech, either in the primaries or in the General.  Being "Right" doesn't mean anything when you're not in power. 

1992 was a totally different political landscape compared to now i.e. big tech suppression on conservatives, weaponized FBI, DOJ, and CIA against a incoming and sitting President along with attacking conservatives and trying to mandate a poisonous vaccine that doesn’t work on the American people threatening their livelihoods if they didn’t take it. 
 

But I will say you were very creative in your post. 

[LumRaiderFan]

6 minutes ago, Unwoke said:

1992 was a totally different political landscape i.e. big tech suppression on conservatives, weaponized FBI, DOJ, and CIA against a incoming and sitting President along with attacking conservatives and trying to mandate a poisonous vaccine that doesn’t work on the American people threatening their livelihoods if they didn’t take it. 
 

But I will say you were very creative in your post. 

A creative way of saying never take a stand even if you know you're right.

Always straddle the fence and wait to pick the side that winds up in the majority.

Good old squishy moderates.

[DonTheCon2024]

I was at a conference last week. Predominately conservative crowd, all highly educated and very successful with net worth in the 7-8 figure range. 

Politics topic came up at one of the tables. They all laughed at the poor, small towners who support trump (most everyone here) and think trump supporters are the biggest idiots and suckers on earth. I told them, yeah you’re right I grew up around these mouth breathers and they are the absolute worst