Lumberton (23) vs Tyler Chapel Hill (35) - FINAL

[AthleticSupporter - Jock]

On 12/8/2022 at 6:16 PM, setxathlete14 said:

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Where's my numbers guy here

I'll say this,  if UIL ever starts determining classifications based on# of houses built or population growth,  Lumberton is in trouble. But because UIL only looks at enrollment in grades 9-12, Lumberton will rain in 4A for the foreseeable future. 

[AthleticSupporter - Jock]

2 hours ago, LCMAlumtiger32 said:

Ill try to send it to you. Its on LISD webpage lol

Yes please. Post the link on here. I'd like to see that. 

[setxathlete14]

2 hours ago, AthleticSupporter - Jock said:

I'll say this,  if UIL ever starts determining classifications based on# of houses built or population growth,  Lumberton is in trouble. But because UIL only looks at enrollment in grades 9-12, Lumberton will rain in 4A for the foreseeable future. 

Are you in denial? Large population growth = more kids all the way up the schools... I hope they do stay 4a.

[Tiger33]

34 minutes ago, AthleticSupporter - Jock said:

Yes please. Post the link on here. I'd like to see that. 

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Go to the 10 year forecast. Unless im not understanding how many kids per grade. I dont know when they would go to 5a . I just know the grade level of the current 8th grade is large 

[Tiger33]

@AthleticSupporter - Jock you do live lumberton right? you got me doing this extra work lol

[navydawg31]

Lumberton will be 5A at the next realignment.
 

I’m hoping they create that 7A they are talking about tho. 

[NorthoftheBorder]

29 minutes ago, LCMAlumtiger32 said:

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Go to the 10 year forecast. Unless im not understanding how many kids per grade. I dont know when they would go to 5a . I just know the grade level of the current 8th grade is large 

I looked at the 10 year forecast.  With the growth going on in Texas, especially with the numbers pouring through our southern border, this just looks like numbers that would keep pace with the upper limit of 4A D1.   Maybe if this turns out to be true, they squeeze into 5A D2 in or around 2030.  Maybe!  This doesn't show the growth at the exponential rate that say, the Austin area or even Barbers Hill has seen in recent years.  

[NorthoftheBorder]

Obviously the L-Train would have taken a big L against Boerne if they would have played them.  But I can't help but be happy that Chappell Hill got B-slapped last night.  Sometimes you get to see fan bases get what they deserve.  Not always, but last night was one of them.  

[AthleticSupporter - Jock]

2 hours ago, setxathlete14 said:

Are you in denial? Large population growth = more kids all the way up the schools... I hope they do stay 4a.

I never said Lumberton wasn't growing or that LISD wouldn't have more kids each year.  On average, LHS grows by about 10 kids every year and will continue to grow.  But the UIL cutoff for 4A/5A will continue to grow also and it grows at a pace 3x that of LHS' growth.

[AthleticSupporter - Jock]

2 hours ago, LCMAlumtiger32 said:

@AthleticSupporter - Jock you do live lumberton right? you got me doing this extra work lol

I'm trying to teach you how to fish instead of just feeding you a fish.  But I'm tired of watching you struggle so I'll give you the answers. lol

Here are the current enrollment #s for 8th grade thru 12th grade for 22-23 school year.

8th (335)  9th (336)  10th (315)  11th (263)  12th (316).  We all know these #s fluctuate.  Take the senior class, for example.  They have 316 this year but they had 358 their 9th grade year.  My point is that if we replace the 12th grade enrollment with the 8th grade enrollment, snapshot next year would be 1249.  I would expect the new UIL cutoff # to be around 1330 and that is being conservative.  Even if the cutoff # stayed at 1299, Lumberton still remains in 4A.  Facts don't care about anyone's feelings.  

[Tiger33]

8 minutes ago, AthleticSupporter - Jock said:

I'm trying to teach you how to fish instead of just feeding you a fish.  But I'm tired of watching you struggle so I'll give you the answers. lol

Here are the current enrollment #s for 8th grade thru 12th grade for 22-23 school year.

8th (335)  9th (336)  10th (315)  11th (263)  12th (316).  We all know these #s fluctuate.  Take the senior class, for example.  They have 316 this year but they had 358 their 9th grade year.  My point is that if we replace the 12th grade enrollment with the 8th grade enrollment, snapshot next year would be 1249.  I would expect the new UIL cutoff # to be around 1330 and that is being conservative.  Even if the cutoff # stayed at 1299, Lumberton still remains in 4A.  Facts don't care about anyone's feelings.  

Im not worried about lumberton moving up to 5a lol It doesnt bother me if Lumberton goes up or down. Do you live in Lumberton? 

[AthleticSupporter - Jock]

8 minutes ago, LCMAlumtiger32 said:

Im not worried about lumberton moving up to 5a lol It doesnt bother me if Lumberton goes up or down. Do you live in Lumberton? 

Yes I do.

[raideroldtimer]

21 minutes ago, LCMAlumtiger32 said:

Im not worried about lumberton moving up to 5a lol It doesnt bother me if Lumberton goes up or down. Do you live in Lumberton? 

Keep in mind. Lumbertons' first foray into the playoffs in 2007 we were in the 4A division that is now the 5A Div 2 playing against PNG, Nederland , Dayton, Central, Ozan and Vidor. In fact we were TriDsitrict champs with PNG and Dayton as we each lost to one of the others. We were the number 1 seed and went to the regionals like this year where Waller beat us down even though we were the favored team. Thaat was also the year we got to experience Lamarques' bad attitufe after we beat them, players and coaches. I think if we ever move up again we'll probably be alright.

[Tiger33]

17 minutes ago, AthleticSupporter - Jock said:

Yes I do.

Cool! We might be neighbors! 

[Tiger33]

2 minutes ago, raideroldtimer said:

Keep in mind. Lumbertons' first foray into the playoffs in 2007 we were in the 4A division that is now the 5A Div 2 playing against PNG, Nederland , Dayton, Central, Ozan and Vidor. In fact we were TriDsitrict champs with PNG and Dayton as we each lost to one of the others. We were the number 1 seed and went to the regionals like this year where Waller beat us down even though we were the favored team. Thaat was also the year we got to experience Lamarques' bad attitufe after we beat them, players and coaches. I think if we ever move up again we'll probably be alright.

LCM was in the same diatrict. My brother in law was playing for lumberton around then

[SmashMouth]

16 hours ago, raideroldtimer said:

Thaat was also the year we got to experience Lamarques' bad attitufe after we beat them, players and coaches.

That was awesome too. The look of disbelief on Lamarque team’s faces at the end of the game was truly priceless. 

[Separation Scientist]

23 hours ago, NorthoftheBorder said:

Obviously the L-Train would have taken a big L against Boerne if they would have played them.  But I can't help but be happy that Chappell Hill got B-slapped last night.  Sometimes you get to see fan bases get what they deserve.  Not always, but last night was one of them.  

Boy did they. I was there. Boerne beat the livin' hell out of 'em. 

[AthleticSupporter - Jock]

17 hours ago, SmashMouth said:

That was awesome too. The look of disbelief on Lamarque team’s faces at the end of the game was truly priceless. 

That was a fun game to be at.  The defending State Champs getting beat by little ole Lumberton.  The win against Dayton might have been the most impressive IMO.  Dayton made a deep run in 07 and won state in 08.  Parade All American AJ Dugat was a beast.  Lumberton beat Dayton 8-7 on a gutsy 2pt conversion to win the game.  Lumberton defense holding Dayton to 7pts was about as impressive as anything I have ever witnessed.

[Mr. Buddy Garrity]

What round was this Lumberton/Chapel Hill game again????? 

[raideroldtimer]

10 minutes ago, Mr. Buddy Garrity said:

What round was this Lumberton/Chapel Hill game again????? 

Round 3, same place we got stuck last time we got this far. This time was a little more questionable, last time was a beat down.

[SmashMouth]

16 minutes ago, AthleticSupporter - Jock said:

That was a fun game to be at.  The defending State Champs getting beat by little ole Lumberton.  The win against Dayton might have been the most impressive IMO.  Dayton made a deep run in 07 and won state in 08.  Parade All American AJ Dugat was a beast.  Lumberton beat Dayton 8-7 on a gutsy 2pt conversion to win the game.  Lumberton defense holding Dayton to 7pts was about as impressive as anything I have ever witnessed.

Yep. I was at every game that year.

[Tiger33]

40 minutes ago, AthleticSupporter - Jock said:

That was a fun game to be at.  The defending State Champs getting beat by little ole Lumberton.  The win against Dayton might have been the most impressive IMO.  Dayton made a deep run in 07 and won state in 08.  Parade All American AJ Dugat was a beast.  Lumberton beat Dayton 8-7 on a gutsy 2pt conversion to win the game.  Lumberton defense holding Dayton to 7pts was about as impressive as anything I have ever witnessed.

Dayton did not win state in 08. Sulphur Springs beat them.  

[AggiesAreWe]

43 minutes ago, AthleticSupporter - Jock said:

That was a fun game to be at.  The defending State Champs getting beat by little ole Lumberton.  The win against Dayton might have been the most impressive IMO.  Dayton made a deep run in 07 and won state in 08.  Parade All American AJ Dugat was a beast.  Lumberton beat Dayton 8-7 on a gutsy 2pt conversion to win the game.  Lumberton defense holding Dayton to 7pts was about as impressive as anything I have ever witnessed.

Dayton did not win state. Lost to Sulpher Springs 69-49 in title game.

[Tiger33]

Also if  i remember correctly Green was the QB and injured for that 07 game. But it was still a good win for Lumberton 

[Raider4]

On 11/25/2022 at 7:32 PM, raideroldtimer said:

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