CardinalBacker Posted November 30, 2022 Report Share Posted November 30, 2022 ... that 1/6 wasn't a big deal because nobody had even been charged for sedition? This is the hidden content, please Sign In or Sign Up First conviction for seditious conspiracy. I guess this guy was trying to stop the transfer of power at the exact same time and place that the rest of Trump's fanboys were just touring the capitol as guests of the capitol police. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LumRaiderFan Posted November 30, 2022 Report Share Posted November 30, 2022 Were these guys armed with flagpoles or umbrellas, I forget. Poor suckers are taking the fall for this and only fools that believe this was an actual insurrection and attempted overthrow of the government are buying it. They're coming...Trump is next! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobcat1 Posted November 30, 2022 Report Share Posted November 30, 2022 1 hour ago, LumRaiderFan said: Were these guys armed with flagpoles or umbrellas, I forget. Poor suckers are taking the fall for this and only fools that believe this was an actual insurrection and attempted overthrow of the government are buying it. They're coming...Trump is next! What do you define it as? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LumRaiderFan Posted November 30, 2022 Report Share Posted November 30, 2022 19 minutes ago, Bobcat1 said: What do you define it as? Idiots being idiots. Charge them with the appropriate crime. Why would anyone 100% intent on taking Congress over and overturning the election not come in armed ready for resistance? It took them almost two years to come up with this and why anyone would have any confidence in this DOJ is beyond me. They had to have a win for the upcoming election. If Trump was out of the picture this never would have taken place. Not to worry, if things don't change we'll see the real deal and it won't look anything like this cluster we saw on Jan 6. Unwoke and Chester86 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CardinalBacker Posted November 30, 2022 Author Report Share Posted November 30, 2022 20 minutes ago, LumRaiderFan said: Idiots being idiots. Charge them with the appropriate crime. Why would anyone 100% intent on taking Congress over and overturning the election not come in armed ready for resistance? It took them almost two years to come up with this and why anyone would have any confidence in this DOJ is beyond me. They had to have a win for the upcoming election. If Trump was out of the picture this never would have taken place. Not to worry, if things don't change we'll see the real deal and it won't look anything like this cluster we saw on Jan 6. It's not what the state says they intended to do... it's what the defendants themselves admit that they wanted to do. The fact that they sucked at it doesn't get them a pass. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unwoke Posted November 30, 2022 Report Share Posted November 30, 2022 2 hours ago, CardinalBacker said: ... that 1/6 wasn't a big deal because nobody had even been charged for sedition? This is the hidden content, please Sign In or Sign Up First conviction for seditious conspiracy. I guess this guy was trying to stop the transfer of power at the exact same time and place that the rest of Trump's fanboys were just touring the capitol as guests of the capitol police. 🍊🍊🍊 800,000 plus people gathered to protest the fraudulent election an this is what the J6 Unselect Committee came up came up with?😂😂😂 Boy….what an Insurrection!😂😂😂 LumRaiderFan and Chester86 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tvc184 Posted December 1, 2022 Report Share Posted December 1, 2022 19 hours ago, CardinalBacker said: ... that 1/6 wasn't a big deal because nobody had even been charged for sedition? This is the hidden content, please Sign In or Sign Up First conviction for seditious conspiracy. I guess this guy was trying to stop the transfer of power at the exact same time and place that the rest of Trump's fanboys were just touring the capitol as guests of the capitol police. Sedition by definition is words or conduct inciting peoplem against the government. Any public protest against any law could be considered sedition but protests are protected speech. Laws at times however have their own definitions of words or phrases which may be contrary to the common dictionary definitions. A quick example is the word “premises” means buildings and land but in certain Texas laws it only means inside of a building. You could be on the grassy area at a school but not be on their premises. By definition? Yes. By law? No. So what is sedition (Seditious Conspiracy) under the US Code (basically the federal government penal code)? It can be as little as 2 people (required for conspiracy) hindering or delaying a government function or seizing property by force that they have no right to…. such as trying to take over federal properties. So now we know that out of hundreds of thousands of people protesting, at least 2 tried to take over a building or hinder a vote. That’s your big deal? It is rarely used but under Texas law, if you participate in a riot then you can be charged with the highest crime committed at the riot. So thousands of people could gather for what started as a peaceful protest but turned violent. The law says that if you retired from the protest which is now violent, you are okay. If you stayed and took part in the riot, you for example could be charged with arson even though you didn’t participate in an arson. So because an assembly of people is there to protest and a majority is there to do it peacefully, it can turn into a crime to simply be there. In fact just being there can result in 6 months in jail. Tidbit: I believe the phrase “being read the riot act”, meaning to really tell someone off or chastise them for acting like idiots, comes from riot laws. Basically a government official (usually law enforcement) will actually read the law and announce that the assembly is now unlawful and to disperse. Does that mean the crowd gathered to take part in felonies? In other words, if hundreds of thousands of people gather but a handful in the crowd (remember that federal sedition law requires only 2) commit a crime, does that mean the crowd was part of some willing act to commit crimes? Does that mean the people protesting were doing so illegally. baddog, LumRaiderFan, Reagan and 1 other 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big girl Posted December 1, 2022 Report Share Posted December 1, 2022 23 hours ago, LumRaiderFan said: Were these guys armed with flagpoles or umbrellas, I forget. Poor suckers are taking the fall for this and only fools that believe this was an actual insurrection and attempted overthrow of the government are buying it. They're coming...Trump is next! What? Did you watch the TV footage? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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