OGVillain Posted January 24, 2023 Report Share Posted January 24, 2023 1 hour ago, VidorPirate said: I sure hope we get someone in here that will implement a fast paced spread attack. I heard we had multiple guys run 4.4 - 4.65 in the 40 this year. I mean, look at our linemen, they are built for 2 pt stances and pass setting. In the spread, we will beat LCM by at least 4 tds. some of you all are hilarious. we don't have to be slot-t, but we defenitly need to be run based and ball control on offense. that is the best defense we have. If anyone believes Vidor has this speed please list them. 100% not true! Definitely a run based clock management offense is required. VidorPirate 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OGVillain Posted January 24, 2023 Report Share Posted January 24, 2023 1 minute ago, oldschool2 said: Not the right decision in my opinion. Sometimes change is necessary for various reasons.. but wins/losses are influenced by much more than the ability to coach. Many times, coaches only have what they have and nobody could've done any better. But making boys into good citizens, that's quite a feat. Making boys into good men is coaching. Teaching responsibility & character is coaching. Jeff Mathews has made that a priority in his career. Literally did Character building lessons for YEARS! Separation Scientist 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiger33 Posted January 24, 2023 Report Share Posted January 24, 2023 21 minutes ago, oldschool2 said: Not the right decision in my opinion. Sometimes change is necessary for various reasons.. but wins/losses are influenced by much more than the ability to coach. Many times, coaches only have what they have and nobody could've done any better. But making boys into good citizens, that's quite a feat. I thought the justice system made them good citizens. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigEnosBurdette Posted January 24, 2023 Report Share Posted January 24, 2023 1 minute ago, LCMAlumtiger32 said: I thought the justice system made them good citizens. If you think the justice system makes good citizens… then 😂🤣 Tiger33 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prepballfan Posted January 25, 2023 Report Share Posted January 25, 2023 5 hours ago, OGVillain said: If anyone believes Vidor has this speed please list them. 100% not true! Definitely a run based clock management offense is required. Spread offenses are the great equalizer, an increasingly popular way for teams with lesser talent to compete against teams with more talent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vhs Posted January 25, 2023 Report Share Posted January 25, 2023 10 hours ago, VidorPirate said: I sure hope we get someone in here that will implement a fast paced spread attack. I heard we had multiple guys run 4.4 - 4.65 in the 40 this year. I mean, look at our linemen, they are built for 2 pt stances and pass setting. In the spread, we will beat LCM by at least 4 tds. some of you all are hilarious. we don't have to be slot-t, but we defenitly need to be run based and ball control on offense. that is the best defense we have. Not a single player ran 4.5… now their dad may have brought them to the field and clocked them on the daddy watch… but no one on Vidor’s roster touched a legit 4.5 VidorPirate 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vhs Posted January 25, 2023 Report Share Posted January 25, 2023 10 hours ago, Reagan said: If Lumberton can do it, I don't see why Vidor couldn't do it. Again, same type of athletes. But, the Slot-T and Wing-T are good offenses. As always, just need the right coach to coach it. Same type of athlete??? Did you see them line up against each other??? Not even close bullets13 and VidorPirate 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vhs Posted January 25, 2023 Report Share Posted January 25, 2023 9 hours ago, oldschool2 said: Coaches all over the state are fired all of the time for not producing in the "W" column... even if they greatly impact the lives of the players they coach. Good thing he was 68-56 last twelve years Mr. Thornton Melon 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reagan Posted January 25, 2023 Report Share Posted January 25, 2023 2 hours ago, vhs said: Good thing he was 68-56 last twelve years Overall: 24 years: 117-124 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vhs Posted January 25, 2023 Report Share Posted January 25, 2023 4 hours ago, Reagan said: Overall: 24 years: 117-124 Well… if you want to look at all 24 years let’s look at the 24 years before he took over… 69-157-3 … they were 15-86 the ten years prior to him becoming HC/ AD…I’d say he’s made a difference it takes time to implement an offense and change a mindset in a program… especially one with a history of very little success… I think he implement the slot-t around 2006… after a couple years it caught on and more success followed than the program has ever seen. KF89 and bullets13 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigEnosBurdette Posted January 25, 2023 Report Share Posted January 25, 2023 It’s unbelievable how miserable people are and unwilling to congratulate a man on job well done. Coach Mathews did a phenomenal job as AD/HC for Vidor but a few select individuals always want to talk about wins and loses… and before those people say it’s a sports and someone has to win and lose, you are right but sports is so much more than being about winning and losing. Sports are about teaching someone to be accountable, a team player, leadership, and so on. So before you chime in and focus solely on wins and loses…. Let’s see your win, loss record (and little league doesn’t count) or if y’all know so much about being a AD/HC let’s see those applications and credentials. Fortheloveofthegame, KF89, vhs and 2 others 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Thornton Melon Posted January 25, 2023 Report Share Posted January 25, 2023 2 hours ago, vhs said: Well… if you want to look at all 24 years let’s look at the 24 years before he took over… 69-157-3 … they were 15-86 the ten years prior to him becoming HC/ AD…I’d say he’s made a difference it takes time to implement an offense and change a mindset in a program… especially one with a history of very little success… I think he implement the slot-t around 2006… after a couple years it caught on and more success followed than the program has ever seen. Vidor was in 22-5A with bmt west brook, bmt central (there was no Ozen to take their players) , deer park , Laporte, lee & sterling through 1998. His first year in 99' coincided with a drop in classification. Apples to oranges Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Thornton Melon Posted January 25, 2023 Report Share Posted January 25, 2023 9 hours ago, vhs said: Same type of athlete??? Did you see them line up against each other??? Not even close Vidor was down and Lumberton was up. It was a one year thing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldschool2 Posted January 25, 2023 Report Share Posted January 25, 2023 10 hours ago, vhs said: Good thing he was 68-56 last twelve years Do you know what Bill Belichick's record is without Tom Brady? You should look it up. And remember.. for the better part of a decade, Belichick was considered one of the greatest football minds alive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KF89 Posted January 25, 2023 Report Share Posted January 25, 2023 1 hour ago, BigEnosBurdette said: It’s unbelievable how miserable people are and unwilling to congratulate a man on job well done. Coach Mathews did a phenomenal job as AD/HC for Vidor but a few select individuals always want to talk about wins and loses… and before those people say it’s a sports and someone has to win and lose, you are right but sports is so much more than being about winning and losing. Sports are about teaching someone to be accountable, a team player, leadership, and so on. So before you chime in and focus solely on wins and loses…. Let’s see your win, loss record (and little league doesn’t count) or if y’all know so much about being a AD/HC let’s see those applications and credentials. Most of the coach critics were\are trash youth league coaches & too embarrased to put their record or real name out here.😎 BigEnosBurdette 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigEnosBurdette Posted January 25, 2023 Report Share Posted January 25, 2023 24 minutes ago, Mr. Thornton Melon said: Vidor was in 22-5A with bmt west brook, bmt central (there was no Ozen to take their players) , deer park , Laporte, lee & sterling through 1998. His first year in 99' coincided with a drop in classification. Apples to oranges Again you’re wrong… Vidor was in 20-4A ‘96, ‘97 football years. ‘96 football season Vidor was 5-5 under HC Pat Murphy ’97 football season Vidor was 2-8 under HC Johnson. and I believe Vidor was still 20-4A the ‘98 football season. KF89 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldschool2 Posted January 25, 2023 Report Share Posted January 25, 2023 7 minutes ago, KF89 said: Most of the coach critics were\are trash youth league coaches & too embarrased to put their record or real name out here.😎 I've said this very thing before. KF89 and BigEnosBurdette 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KF89 Posted January 25, 2023 Report Share Posted January 25, 2023 1 minute ago, oldschool2 said: I've said this very thing before. Rarely see or hear them at school board meetings either......🤐 BigEnosBurdette 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigEnosBurdette Posted January 25, 2023 Report Share Posted January 25, 2023 Just now, KF89 said: Rarely see or hear them at school board meetings either......🤐 Nope… just on message boards, social media, or in the stands. KF89 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NHSBulldogFan Posted January 25, 2023 Report Share Posted January 25, 2023 1 hour ago, Mr. Thornton Melon said: Vidor was in 22-5A with bmt west brook, bmt central (there was no Ozen to take their players) , deer park , Laporte, lee & sterling through 1998. His first year in 99' coincided with a drop in classification. Apples to oranges Last time Vidor was in 5A (6A now) was 1995...they were in the same district as the Baytown Lee and Sterling, North Shore, Beaumont Central and West Brook, TJ, and PN-G vhs and BigEnosBurdette 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldschool2 Posted January 25, 2023 Report Share Posted January 25, 2023 1 hour ago, KF89 said: Rarely see or hear them at school board meetings either......🤐 I'm sure it's closer to never. I'd bet that they don't even meet with any of these coaches that they so openly ridicule behind a computer screen. KF89 and vhs 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigEnosBurdette Posted January 25, 2023 Report Share Posted January 25, 2023 10 minutes ago, NHSBulldogFan said: Last time Vidor was in 5A (6A now) was 1995...they were in the same district as the Baytown Lee and Sterling, North Shore, Beaumont Central and West Brook, TJ, and PN-G Bingo! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WOSdrummer99 Posted January 25, 2023 Report Share Posted January 25, 2023 1 hour ago, BigEnosBurdette said: and I believe Vidor was still 20-4A the ‘98 football season. 96 thru 99 season BigEnosBurdette 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vhs Posted January 25, 2023 Report Share Posted January 25, 2023 My take on the critics on this thread whether it be the talent scouts comparing Vidor to other schools, 40 times, UIL classifications, general Vidor football history, etc…. Is this… They don’t know what they don’t know… 😂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CardinalBacker Posted January 25, 2023 Report Share Posted January 25, 2023 I think it's obvious that the community over there sees winning as something different than the rest of us. That job opening should be for a "Great Man," not a HFC/AD. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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