Vidor is open !!

[Mr. Thornton Melon]

Mathews was going to leave a few years back and DuBois was set to take over. That year Vidor found out they were dropping down to 4A so Mathews decided to stay because he thought he could make noise in a lower classification. Sadly DuBois gets handed the job

[Hagar]

Who would have thought the HC position at Vidor would draw so much attention?  I don’t think the PNG hire came under such scrutiny.  Well my, my, my.

Thank goodness the new Coach has a great bunch of Juniors next year.  Hopefully he’ll have a winning season & everyone can chill.  Otherwise there could be vigilante’s roaming Main Street (105).  
😂😂😂👽☠️👽😂😂😂

[Reagan]

  On 2/7/2023 at 5:30 PM, Mr. Thornton Melon said:

Mathews was going to leave a few years back and DuBois was set to take over. That year Vidor found out they were dropping down to 4A so Mathews decided to stay because he thought he could make noise in a lower classification. Sadly DuBois gets handed the job

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How did that decision work out for him?

[Bigdog]

  On 2/8/2023 at 7:19 AM, Reagan said:

How did that decision work out for him?

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better than staying in 5A.

[VidorPirate]

  On 2/8/2023 at 7:19 AM, Reagan said:

How did that decision work out for him?

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District Championship

[Reagan]

  On 2/8/2023 at 4:32 PM, VidorPirate said:

District Championship

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I had asked in a previous post if he ever won an out-right District Championship and the response was no.  Did I get some false info?

[VidorPirate]

  On 2/8/2023 at 6:29 PM, Reagan said:

I had asked in a previous post if he ever won an out-right District Championship and the response was no.  Did I get some false info?

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figured that would be the response.  shared or out-right is no difference, it still goes down as a district championship. 

[Mr. Thornton Melon]

  On 2/8/2023 at 7:19 AM, Reagan said:

How did that decision work out for him?

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Zero playoff wins after the drop.

[Mr. Thornton Melon]

It's not INTERSTATE 10 - VIDOR 0 anymore.

Now it's INTERSTATE 10 - VIDOR 5 (and the fans are content with that)

 

[bullets13]

  On 2/7/2023 at 10:31 PM, Hagar said:

Who would have thought the HC position at Vidor would draw so much attention?  I don’t think the PNG hire came under such scrutiny.  Well my, my, my.

Thank goodness the new Coach has a great bunch of Juniors next year.  Hopefully he’ll have a winning season & everyone can chill.  Otherwise there could be vigilante’s roaming Main Street (105).  
😂😂😂👽☠️👽😂😂😂

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it'll just be thornton melon with his pitchfork.

[bullets13]

Vidor had 12 winning seasons between 1940, their first year of football, and 1998.  so basically 12 winning seasons in 60 years.  Mathews had 11 winning seasons (plus two more .500 years) out of 24 seasons.  So for people to act like he wasn't good for Vidor, or that the school district should have fired him long ago, is simply laughable.  I think most of his detractors have something a little more personal, like they didn't start when they were at vidor, or maybe he didn't play their kid enough for their liking.  

[Mr. Thornton Melon]

  On 2/8/2023 at 4:08 PM, Bigdog said:

better than staying in 5A.

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Vidor actually played a lot harder when they were in 5A. They lost their grit after the drop

[Mr. Thornton Melon]

  On 2/8/2023 at 7:42 PM, bullets13 said:

Vidor had 12 winning seasons between 1940, their first year of football, and 1998.  so basically 12 winning seasons in 60 years.  Mathews had 11 winning seasons (plus two more .500 years) out of 24 seasons.  So for people to act like he wasn't good for Vidor, or that the school district should have fired him long ago, is simply laughable.  I think most of his detractors have something a little more personal, like they didn't start when they were at vidor, or maybe he didn't play their kid enough for their liking.  

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Vidor was in 22-5A with Beaumont Central , Westbrook, LaPorte, Deer Park, Lee & Sterling up until 1998. They dropped in 1999 , the same year Mathews took over. Its a variable one must consider when comparing before and after. 

 

[bullets13]

  On 2/8/2023 at 8:01 PM, Mr. Thornton Melon said:

Vidor was in 22-5A with Beaumont Central , Westbrook, LaPorte, Deer Park, Lee & Sterling up until 1998. They dropped in 1999 , the same year Mathews took over.

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And they played against Central, Ozen, Nederland, PNG, etc. for almost the entirety of his time there.  Not really sure what your point is.  They played against bigger schools for like 20 of his 22 years.  And how long were they in 5A before he took over?  Also pertinent information.  

[Reagan]

  On 2/8/2023 at 7:22 PM, Mr. Thornton Melon said:

Zero playoff wins after the drop.

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Really?!  Well, that is interesting.  Thanks!

PS -- I do remember once he had 21 or 22 returning starters and couldn't do anything with them.  Correct me if I'm wrong on the starters.  

[Mr. Thornton Melon]

  On 2/8/2023 at 8:51 PM, bullets13 said:

And they played against Central, Ozen, Nederland, PNG, etc. for almost the entirety of his time there.  Not really sure what your point is.  They played against bigger schools for like 20 of his 22 years.  And how long were they in 5A before he took over?  Also pertinent information.  

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    West Brook and Central were different animals before Ozen came into existence and the BISD talent was split three ways Instead of two ways.  Can't compare them!

    Vidor was larger in enrollment than png and equal in enrollment with Nederland during the time Mathews played them. They weren't bigger schools then us until after a few storms had people moving out of Vidor 

 

 

[Bigdog]

  On 2/8/2023 at 8:51 PM, bullets13 said:

And they played against Central, Ozen, Nederland, PNG, etc. for almost the entirety of his time there.  Not really sure what your point is.  They played against bigger schools for like 20 of his 22 years.  And how long were they in 5A before he took over?  Also pertinent information.  

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They played in the "Northern" 4A district for the first couple of years.   Ozen, Lumberton, Silsbee, Jasper and LCM I think.  They met Ned in the playoffs I think one of those years and went out in the first round.  They moved to the old 20-4a and were playing Ned, PNG, WOS, TJ and Lincoln (I think they were still in 4a then) and I think Ozen had moved to 20-4a as well.

[Tim Riggins]

  On 2/8/2023 at 9:51 PM, Bigdog said:

They played in the "Northern" 4A district for the first couple of years.   Ozen, Lumberton, Silsbee, Jasper and LCM I think.  They met Ned in the playoffs I think one of those years and went out in the first round.  They moved to the old 20-4a and were playing Ned, PNG, WOS, TJ and Lincoln (I think they were still in 4a then) and I think Ozen had moved to 20-4a as well.

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Livingston was in that northern district too. I don’t recall LCM being in it.  That playoff game vs Nederland was their first time in the playoffs since 1978 when they won district. Prior to that was in 1964 when they played San Marcos in the 3A state semifinals. Pirates and Rattlers tied but SM advanced by one penetration. Vidor’s record that year was 12-0-1. 

[Gocats90]

Ok I have a question who is the actual front runners for this job? Would like to see a Slot-T coach come… Possibly a Liberty Hill assistant very unlikely.

[setxathlete14]

  On 2/9/2023 at 3:37 AM, Gocats90 said:

Ok I have a question who is the actual front runners for this job? Would like to see a Slot-T coach come… Possibly a Liberty Hill assistant very unlikely.

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Its been covered already. Dubois or crauder

[Mr. Buddy Garrity]

  On 2/9/2023 at 4:17 AM, setxathlete14 said:

Its been covered already. Dubois or crauder

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Shows how much out the loop I am, I thought those 2 were retired....... 

[Mr. Thornton Melon]

  On 2/9/2023 at 4:17 AM, setxathlete14 said:

Its been covered already. Dubois or crauder

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Won't be Creuder. It will be sub 500 DuBois hired by sub 500 Mathews. The tradition continues. Grow a set Jay Kilgo

[Bigdog]

  On 2/9/2023 at 12:09 AM, Tim Riggins said:

Livingston was in that northern district too. I don’t recall LCM being in it.  That playoff game vs Nederland was their first time in the playoffs since 1978 when they won district. Prior to that was in 1964 when they played San Marcos in the 3A state semifinals. Pirates and Rattlers tied but SM advanced by one penetration. Vidor’s record that year was 12-0-1. 

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Your probably right, my memory isn't as good as it used to be.   LCM might have been in 20-4a with Ned,PNG, WOS , etc

[Tiger33]

  On 2/9/2023 at 12:47 PM, Bigdog said:

Your probably right, my memory isn't as good as it used to be.   LCM might have been in 20-4a with Ned,PNG, WOS , etc

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LCM was in 20 4A in the 90’s

[AggiesAreWe]

  On 2/9/2023 at 4:23 AM, Mr. Buddy Garrity said:

Shows how much out the loop I am, I thought those 2 were retired....... 

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They both are retired.

From my understanding, Vidor ISD is ready to do the "retire, rehire" for one of them. Cost the district a little more money to do this.

A retiree can go back to work as long as he/she sits out a school year. I believe that is why Mathews is staying on until June. It will be a year then.