Mr. Thornton Melon Posted February 7, 2023 Report Share Posted February 7, 2023 Mathews was going to leave a few years back and DuBois was set to take over. That year Vidor found out they were dropping down to 4A so Mathews decided to stay because he thought he could make noise in a lower classification. Sadly DuBois gets handed the job Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hagar Posted February 7, 2023 Report Share Posted February 7, 2023 Who would have thought the HC position at Vidor would draw so much attention? I don’t think the PNG hire came under such scrutiny. Well my, my, my. Thank goodness the new Coach has a great bunch of Juniors next year. Hopefully he’ll have a winning season & everyone can chill. Otherwise there could be vigilante’s roaming Main Street (105). 😂😂😂👽☠️👽😂😂😂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reagan Posted February 8, 2023 Report Share Posted February 8, 2023 13 hours ago, Mr. Thornton Melon said: Mathews was going to leave a few years back and DuBois was set to take over. That year Vidor found out they were dropping down to 4A so Mathews decided to stay because he thought he could make noise in a lower classification. Sadly DuBois gets handed the job How did that decision work out for him? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigdog Posted February 8, 2023 Report Share Posted February 8, 2023 8 hours ago, Reagan said: How did that decision work out for him? better than staying in 5A. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VidorPirate Posted February 8, 2023 Report Share Posted February 8, 2023 9 hours ago, Reagan said: How did that decision work out for him? District Championship Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reagan Posted February 8, 2023 Report Share Posted February 8, 2023 1 hour ago, VidorPirate said: District Championship I had asked in a previous post if he ever won an out-right District Championship and the response was no. Did I get some false info? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VidorPirate Posted February 8, 2023 Report Share Posted February 8, 2023 7 minutes ago, Reagan said: I had asked in a previous post if he ever won an out-right District Championship and the response was no. Did I get some false info? figured that would be the response. shared or out-right is no difference, it still goes down as a district championship. Reagan, bullets13 and setxathlete14 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Thornton Melon Posted February 8, 2023 Report Share Posted February 8, 2023 12 hours ago, Reagan said: How did that decision work out for him? Zero playoff wins after the drop. setxathlete14 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Thornton Melon Posted February 8, 2023 Report Share Posted February 8, 2023 It's not INTERSTATE 10 - VIDOR 0 anymore. Now it's INTERSTATE 10 - VIDOR 5 (and the fans are content with that) setxathlete14 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bullets13 Posted February 8, 2023 Report Share Posted February 8, 2023 21 hours ago, Hagar said: Who would have thought the HC position at Vidor would draw so much attention? I don’t think the PNG hire came under such scrutiny. Well my, my, my. Thank goodness the new Coach has a great bunch of Juniors next year. Hopefully he’ll have a winning season & everyone can chill. Otherwise there could be vigilante’s roaming Main Street (105). 😂😂😂👽☠️👽😂😂😂 it'll just be thornton melon with his pitchfork. Hagar 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bullets13 Posted February 8, 2023 Report Share Posted February 8, 2023 Vidor had 12 winning seasons between 1940, their first year of football, and 1998. so basically 12 winning seasons in 60 years. Mathews had 11 winning seasons (plus two more .500 years) out of 24 seasons. So for people to act like he wasn't good for Vidor, or that the school district should have fired him long ago, is simply laughable. I think most of his detractors have something a little more personal, like they didn't start when they were at vidor, or maybe he didn't play their kid enough for their liking. Tim Riggins and vhs 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Thornton Melon Posted February 8, 2023 Report Share Posted February 8, 2023 3 hours ago, Bigdog said: better than staying in 5A. Vidor actually played a lot harder when they were in 5A. They lost their grit after the drop Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Thornton Melon Posted February 8, 2023 Report Share Posted February 8, 2023 40 minutes ago, bullets13 said: Vidor had 12 winning seasons between 1940, their first year of football, and 1998. so basically 12 winning seasons in 60 years. Mathews had 11 winning seasons (plus two more .500 years) out of 24 seasons. So for people to act like he wasn't good for Vidor, or that the school district should have fired him long ago, is simply laughable. I think most of his detractors have something a little more personal, like they didn't start when they were at vidor, or maybe he didn't play their kid enough for their liking. Vidor was in 22-5A with Beaumont Central , Westbrook, LaPorte, Deer Park, Lee & Sterling up until 1998. They dropped in 1999 , the same year Mathews took over. Its a variable one must consider when comparing before and after. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bullets13 Posted February 8, 2023 Report Share Posted February 8, 2023 1 hour ago, Mr. Thornton Melon said: Vidor was in 22-5A with Beaumont Central , Westbrook, LaPorte, Deer Park, Lee & Sterling up until 1998. They dropped in 1999 , the same year Mathews took over. And they played against Central, Ozen, Nederland, PNG, etc. for almost the entirety of his time there. Not really sure what your point is. They played against bigger schools for like 20 of his 22 years. And how long were they in 5A before he took over? Also pertinent information. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reagan Posted February 8, 2023 Report Share Posted February 8, 2023 1 hour ago, Mr. Thornton Melon said: Zero playoff wins after the drop. Really?! Well, that is interesting. Thanks! PS -- I do remember once he had 21 or 22 returning starters and couldn't do anything with them. Correct me if I'm wrong on the starters. Mr. Thornton Melon 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Thornton Melon Posted February 8, 2023 Report Share Posted February 8, 2023 51 minutes ago, bullets13 said: And they played against Central, Ozen, Nederland, PNG, etc. for almost the entirety of his time there. Not really sure what your point is. They played against bigger schools for like 20 of his 22 years. And how long were they in 5A before he took over? Also pertinent information. West Brook and Central were different animals before Ozen came into existence and the BISD talent was split three ways Instead of two ways. Can't compare them! Vidor was larger in enrollment than png and equal in enrollment with Nederland during the time Mathews played them. They weren't bigger schools then us until after a few storms had people moving out of Vidor Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigdog Posted February 8, 2023 Report Share Posted February 8, 2023 53 minutes ago, bullets13 said: And they played against Central, Ozen, Nederland, PNG, etc. for almost the entirety of his time there. Not really sure what your point is. They played against bigger schools for like 20 of his 22 years. And how long were they in 5A before he took over? Also pertinent information. They played in the "Northern" 4A district for the first couple of years. Ozen, Lumberton, Silsbee, Jasper and LCM I think. They met Ned in the playoffs I think one of those years and went out in the first round. They moved to the old 20-4a and were playing Ned, PNG, WOS, TJ and Lincoln (I think they were still in 4a then) and I think Ozen had moved to 20-4a as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim Riggins Posted February 9, 2023 Report Share Posted February 9, 2023 2 hours ago, Bigdog said: They played in the "Northern" 4A district for the first couple of years. Ozen, Lumberton, Silsbee, Jasper and LCM I think. They met Ned in the playoffs I think one of those years and went out in the first round. They moved to the old 20-4a and were playing Ned, PNG, WOS, TJ and Lincoln (I think they were still in 4a then) and I think Ozen had moved to 20-4a as well. Livingston was in that northern district too. I don’t recall LCM being in it. That playoff game vs Nederland was their first time in the playoffs since 1978 when they won district. Prior to that was in 1964 when they played San Marcos in the 3A state semifinals. Pirates and Rattlers tied but SM advanced by one penetration. Vidor’s record that year was 12-0-1. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gocats90 Posted February 9, 2023 Report Share Posted February 9, 2023 Ok I have a question who is the actual front runners for this job? Would like to see a Slot-T coach come… Possibly a Liberty Hill assistant very unlikely. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
setxathlete14 Posted February 9, 2023 Report Share Posted February 9, 2023 38 minutes ago, Gocats90 said: Ok I have a question who is the actual front runners for this job? Would like to see a Slot-T coach come… Possibly a Liberty Hill assistant very unlikely. Its been covered already. Dubois or crauder Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Buddy Garrity Posted February 9, 2023 Report Share Posted February 9, 2023 5 minutes ago, setxathlete14 said: Its been covered already. Dubois or crauder Shows how much out the loop I am, I thought those 2 were retired....... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Thornton Melon Posted February 9, 2023 Report Share Posted February 9, 2023 13 minutes ago, setxathlete14 said: Its been covered already. Dubois or crauder Won't be Creuder. It will be sub 500 DuBois hired by sub 500 Mathews. The tradition continues. Grow a set Jay Kilgo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigdog Posted February 9, 2023 Report Share Posted February 9, 2023 12 hours ago, Tim Riggins said: Livingston was in that northern district too. I don’t recall LCM being in it. That playoff game vs Nederland was their first time in the playoffs since 1978 when they won district. Prior to that was in 1964 when they played San Marcos in the 3A state semifinals. Pirates and Rattlers tied but SM advanced by one penetration. Vidor’s record that year was 12-0-1. Your probably right, my memory isn't as good as it used to be. LCM might have been in 20-4a with Ned,PNG, WOS , etc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiger33 Posted February 9, 2023 Report Share Posted February 9, 2023 1 hour ago, Bigdog said: Your probably right, my memory isn't as good as it used to be. LCM might have been in 20-4a with Ned,PNG, WOS , etc LCM was in 20 4A in the 90’s Bigdog 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AggiesAreWe Posted February 9, 2023 Report Share Posted February 9, 2023 10 hours ago, Mr. Buddy Garrity said: Shows how much out the loop I am, I thought those 2 were retired....... They both are retired. From my understanding, Vidor ISD is ready to do the "retire, rehire" for one of them. Cost the district a little more money to do this. A retiree can go back to work as long as he/she sits out a school year. I believe that is why Mathews is staying on until June. It will be a year then. Mr. Buddy Garrity 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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