WOSdrummer99 Posted February 11, 2023 Report Share Posted February 11, 2023 1 hour ago, Mr. Thornton Melon said: Unless they don't (1)open the job and (2)hire the very best available applicant. Then (3)more should be said ^^Step 1 is complete. It's a long road. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CardinalBacker Posted February 12, 2023 Report Share Posted February 12, 2023 6 hours ago, Mr. Thornton Melon said: Unless they don't open the job and hire the very best available applicant. Then more should be said I’m torn on this one… I think Vidor has historically underperformed by everybody else’s standards. But Vidor is actually happy with their record… they just want another character guy who also coaches. But I think the world of Coach Dubois. He is an outstanding man and I can’t say enough about what all he did for my boys. If Vidor had qbs who could throw it around a little, Dubois would do so, I’m pretty sure. He never minded mixing passes in at BC. A more diverse slot t would probably work pretty well in Vidor’s current district if there was decent production through the air… I like the hire, but probably because I like the guy personally. Does anybody from Vidor have an accurate comparison between Dubois and Mathews, or is it pretty much a carbon copy? piratevillain 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Thornton Melon Posted February 12, 2023 Report Share Posted February 12, 2023 6 hours ago, WOSdrummer99 said: ^^Step 1 is complete. It's a long road. They still should of had the job posted somewhere other than just the VISD website Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WOSdrummer99 Posted February 12, 2023 Report Share Posted February 12, 2023 1 hour ago, Mr. Thornton Melon said: They still should of had the job posted somewhere other than just the VISD website Welcome to my world. Our applicant list was small because it wasn't posted either. prepballfan and Mr. Thornton Melon 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimbob82 Posted February 12, 2023 Report Share Posted February 12, 2023 Have I missed something, has Dubois been hired???? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
setxathlete14 Posted February 12, 2023 Report Share Posted February 12, 2023 lcm just did this same process they didnt open up theirs to the public either IIRC they had few in mind they wanted. vidor has the right to do the same. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Thornton Melon Posted February 12, 2023 Report Share Posted February 12, 2023 14 minutes ago, setxathlete14 said: lcm just did this same process they didnt open up theirs to the public either IIRC they had few in mind they wanted. vidor has the right to do the same. LCMs coach is a high calibre coach. They weren't going to get better even if they posted it and they knew it. Vidor didn't post out of fear that a good coach may apply Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Thornton Melon Posted February 12, 2023 Report Share Posted February 12, 2023 10 hours ago, CardinalBacker said: I’m torn on this one… I think Vidor has historically underperformed by everybody else’s standards. But Vidor is actually happy with their record… they just want another character guy who also coaches. But I think the world of Coach Dubois. He is an outstanding man and I can’t say enough about what all he did for my boys. If Vidor had qbs who could throw it around a little, Dubois would do so, I’m pretty sure. He never minded mixing passes in at BC. A more diverse slot t would probably work pretty well in Vidor’s current district if there was decent production through the air… I like the hire, but probably because I like the guy personally. Does anybody from Vidor have an accurate comparison between Dubois and Mathews, or is it pretty much a carbon copy? DuBois knows more about football and is a better coach. Mathews is more of a politician and knows how to make the right people happy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CardinalBacker Posted February 12, 2023 Report Share Posted February 12, 2023 5 hours ago, jimbob82 said: Have I missed something, has Dubois been hired???? Not that I’m aware. He’s the predicted hire, though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WOSdrummer99 Posted February 12, 2023 Report Share Posted February 12, 2023 14 minutes ago, setxathlete14 said: lcm just did this same process they didnt open up theirs to the public either IIRC they had few in mind they wanted. vidor has the right to do the same. Was anyone at that board meeting chanting Dwayne or Darrel, or Briles? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Thornton Melon Posted February 12, 2023 Report Share Posted February 12, 2023 Just now, WOSdrummer99 said: Was anyone at that board meeting chanting Dwayne or Darrel, or Briles? Or Toby ?🙂 WOSdrummer99 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
setxathlete14 Posted February 12, 2023 Report Share Posted February 12, 2023 8 hours ago, Mr. Thornton Melon said: LCMs coach is a high calibre coach. They weren't going to get better even if they posted it and they knew it. Vidor didn't post out of fear that a good coach may apply You're the first vidor fan I've heard say that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigdog Posted February 13, 2023 Report Share Posted February 13, 2023 13 hours ago, Mr. Thornton Melon said: LCMs coach is a high calibre coach. They weren't going to get better even if they posted it and they knew it. Vidor didn't post out of fear that a good coach may apply To be clear the job has to be posted for 10 days on the school site whether they know who they are going to hire or not. I don’t think there is any requirement to post in other places. Although that is usually a good idea. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Thornton Melon Posted February 13, 2023 Report Share Posted February 13, 2023 2 hours ago, Bigdog said: I don’t think there is any requirement to post in other places. Although that is usually a good idea. I agree 👍 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Thornton Melon Posted February 18, 2023 Report Share Posted February 18, 2023 If the Slot-T just absolutely has to be the offense that Vidor runs then there is none better that DuBois. Yes I do wish they would have weighed all options and that they are more than capable of running a different style offense. It just gets so damn boring watching the Slot-T year after year but if it's going to have to be the offense then Dwayne is the man. Crueder or the current OC would be a disaster Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimbob82 Posted February 18, 2023 Report Share Posted February 18, 2023 Slot t offense works great if you mix in a few pass plays that work. Reagan 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hagar Posted February 18, 2023 Report Share Posted February 18, 2023 7 hours ago, jimbob82 said: Slot t offense works great if you mix in a few pass plays that work. I agree. Most (all?) of the teams successful with the Slot T have a decent passing attack, like teams who use the Spread have a decent run game. Mr. Thornton Melon and Tim Riggins 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Thornton Melon Posted February 19, 2023 Report Share Posted February 19, 2023 21 hours ago, jimbob82 said: Slot t offense works great if you mix in a few pass plays that work. It has to be the version of the slot-t that we used to run. Not the version we've been running since DuBois left. The passes cant be all play action passes though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Thornton Melon Posted February 19, 2023 Report Share Posted February 19, 2023 14 hours ago, Hagar said: I agree. Most (all?) of the teams successful with the Slot T have a decent passing attack, like teams who use the Spread have a decent run game. Slot T teams pass the ball 2 percent of the time . Spread teams run a pretty balanced attack , about a 50/50 run/pass. No comparison. If they could just do a straight drop back or some more quick passes when its open that would be nice. Dont always have the time for 3 fakes , then for the qb to turn his back to the line and run backwards then turn around to find the receiver. They are usually covered by then Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hagar Posted February 19, 2023 Report Share Posted February 19, 2023 9 hours ago, Mr. Thornton Melon said: Slot T teams pass the ball 2 percent of the time . Spread teams run a pretty balanced attack , about a 50/50 run/pass. No comparison. If they could just do a straight drop back or some more quick passes when its open that would be nice. Dont always have the time for 3 fakes , then for the qb to turn his back to the line and run backwards then turn around to find the receiver. They are usually covered by then I’d be interested to know how often successful Slot T teams pass the ball. Be willing to bet it’s more than 2%. To stop the Slot T most defenses put 11 defenders in the box. That leaves the receivers wide open. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach85 Posted February 19, 2023 Report Share Posted February 19, 2023 I had a nephew play for Liberty Hill. I watched games where they didn’t even mention throwing the ball. Liberty Hill is one of the top three teams in the state if not the top successful teams that run the slot T. I would say 2%! of the time they pass is about right for them. It may be even a little high. Mr. Buddy Garrity 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew328 Posted February 20, 2023 Report Share Posted February 20, 2023 9 hours ago, Coach85 said: I had a nephew play for Liberty Hill. I watched games where they didn’t even mention throwing the ball. Liberty Hill is one of the top three teams in the state if not the top successful teams that run the slot T. I would say 2%! of the time they pass is about right for them. It may be even a little high. If Liberty Hill throws it...something typically went terribly wrong... Mr. Buddy Garrity 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eagleborn Posted February 20, 2023 Report Share Posted February 20, 2023 On 2/12/2023 at 7:46 PM, Bigdog said: To be clear the job has to be posted for 10 days on the school site whether they know who they are going to hire or not. I don’t think there is any requirement to post in other places. Although that is usually a good idea. It don’t have to be posted on website. It can be a flyer on a door at the school Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SmashMouth Posted February 20, 2023 Report Share Posted February 20, 2023 On 2/17/2023 at 8:03 PM, Mr. Thornton Melon said: If the Slot-T just absolutely has to be the offense that Vidor runs then there is none better that DuBois. Yes I do wish they would have weighed all options and that they are more than capable of running a different style offense. It just gets so damn boring watching the Slot-T year after year but if it's going to have to be the offense then Dwayne is the man. Crueder or the current OC would be a disaster Didn't Credeur have success in Lumberton? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WOSdrummer99 Posted February 20, 2023 Report Share Posted February 20, 2023 11 minutes ago, SmashMouth said: Didn't Credeur have success in Lumberton? ALVIN CREDEUR 7 years 34-39-0 2006 Lumberton 4-6-0 2007 Lumberton 11-2-0 C 2008 Lumberton 8-2-0 C 2009 Lumberton 5-5-0 2010 Lumberton 5-5-0 2011 Lumberton 1-9-0 2012 Lumberton 0-10-0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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