Reagan Posted January 22, 2023 Report Posted January 22, 2023 On 1/20/2023 at 10:10 AM, OGVillain said: Anyone that thinks that way is an idiot & doesn’t understand what Coach Mathews has done. In 24 years as Vidor's HC, how many out-right District Championships has he won? Quote
BigEnosBurdette Posted January 22, 2023 Report Posted January 22, 2023 1 hour ago, Reagan said: In 24 years as Vidor's HC, how many out-right District Championships has he won? In 24 years before Mathews, how many DC had Vidor been apart of…???? Quote
WOSdrummer99 Posted January 22, 2023 Report Posted January 22, 2023 1 hour ago, BigEnosBurdette said: In 24 years before Mathews, how many DC had Vidor been apart of…???? Thought this is about Matthews leaving? Not the previous 24 years. setxathlete14 1 Quote
Mr. Thornton Melon Posted January 22, 2023 Report Posted January 22, 2023 2 hours ago, Reagan said: In 24 years as Vidor's HC, how many out-right District Championships has he won? Vidor was in 22-5A with Beaumont Central, Beaumont West Brook, Baytown Lee, Baytown Sterling, Deer Park & La Porte up until the year Mathews took over. It's a variable that's seldom overlooked Quote
Mr. Thornton Melon Posted January 22, 2023 Report Posted January 22, 2023 4 minutes ago, Mr. Thornton Melon said: ***Duplicate*** Quote
setxathlete14 Posted January 22, 2023 Report Posted January 22, 2023 20 hours ago, navydawg31 said: Didn’t Mathews run a spread offense for a few years but didn’t pan out? Like early 2000s? Matthews knows offensive schemes. He was an offensive coordinator for the arena team we had some years back. Quote
BigEnosBurdette Posted January 22, 2023 Report Posted January 22, 2023 27 minutes ago, Mr. Thornton Melon said: Vidor was in 22-5A with Beaumont Central, Beaumont West Brook, Baytown Lee, Baytown Sterling, Deer Park & La Porte up until the year Mathews took over. It's a variable that's seldom overlooked You are 110% WRONG lol… Vidor dropped down to 20-4A the ‘96 football season with Pat Murphy as the HC (5-5). 1997 season was still in 20-4A with Johnson as HC (2-8). Quote
OGVillain Posted January 22, 2023 Report Posted January 22, 2023 You can measure a coaches successes in many ways, by wins, championships, or in lives changed. Wins are good, Championships are great, but there is no substitute to changing a young athletes life. I’ll take a good coach who can mold a young athletes life, over a great coach that gets wins but doesn’t connect with his players. bullets13, Separation Scientist, Hagar and 6 others 6 3 Quote
astros4141078 Posted January 22, 2023 Report Posted January 22, 2023 On 1/20/2023 at 8:11 AM, BigEnosBurdette said: Very qualified and would make a damn good AD. He has been a Vidor for awhile. I sure hope you aren't referring to the o cord. That would be awful Mr. Thornton Melon 1 Quote
BigEnosBurdette Posted January 22, 2023 Report Posted January 22, 2023 28 minutes ago, astros4141078 said: I sure hope you aren't referring to the o cord. That would be awful Nope. Quote
BigEnosBurdette Posted January 22, 2023 Report Posted January 22, 2023 51 minutes ago, OGVillain said: You can measure a coaches successes in many ways, by wins, championships, or in lives changed. Wins are good, Championships are great, but there is no substitute to changing a young athletes life. I’ll take a good coach who can mold a young athletes life, over a great coach that gets wins but doesn’t connect with his players. You hit the nail on the head. Mathew’s doesn’t have the trophy case all these posters do but he most definitely changed the lives of many young men. Hagar 1 Quote
Go-rilla Posted January 23, 2023 Report Posted January 23, 2023 Back to being Santa Fe's twin!!! Sorry Vidor! At least yall play in 4a- D1 where everyone is average. Quote
BigEnosBurdette Posted January 23, 2023 Report Posted January 23, 2023 8 minutes ago, Go-rilla said: Back to being Santa Fe's twin!!! Sorry Vidor! At least yall play in 4a- D1 where everyone is average. If you’re going to make a post, at least make sense. Quote
A BUC 77 Posted January 23, 2023 Report Posted January 23, 2023 He was the best thing that has ever happen to Vidor football in my memory. Always positive. Stands were always full. Personally, I didn't know the guy, but I know he was well respected all around SE Texas. You don't have to go deep in the playoffs to have an affect on these young men. God speed Coach Matthews. bullets13, BigEnosBurdette, setxathlete14 and 4 others 6 1 Quote
pine curtain Posted January 23, 2023 Report Posted January 23, 2023 1 hour ago, A BUC 77 said: He was the best thing that has ever happen to Vidor football in my memory. Always positive. Stands were always full. Personally, I didn't know the guy, but I know he was well respected all around SE Texas. You don't have to go deep in the playoffs to have an affect on these young men. God speed Coach Matthews. he got rid of the I-10 vidor-0 saying for the most part. Hagar and OGVillain 2 Quote
Hagar Posted January 24, 2023 Report Posted January 24, 2023 7 hours ago, pine curtain said: he got rid of the I-10 vidor-0 saying for the most part. To many of us still remember that score. Many of you younger folks don’t remember it, but it dies hard. Hope you younger folks never have to endure it, but if you do, right or wrong you’ll celebrate a 5-5 season. bullets13 and KF89 2 Quote
VidorPirate Posted January 24, 2023 Report Posted January 24, 2023 I sure hope we get someone in here that will implement a fast paced spread attack. I heard we had multiple guys run 4.4 - 4.65 in the 40 this year. I mean, look at our linemen, they are built for 2 pt stances and pass setting. In the spread, we will beat LCM by at least 4 tds. some of you all are hilarious. we don't have to be slot-t, but we defenitly need to be run based and ball control on offense. that is the best defense we have. bullets13 and OGVillain 1 1 Quote
setxathlete14 Posted January 24, 2023 Report Posted January 24, 2023 1 minute ago, VidorPirate said: I sure hope we get someone in here that will implement a fast paced spread attack. I heard we had multiple guys run 4.4 - 4.65 in the 40 this year. I mean, look at our linemen, they are built for 2 pt stances and pass setting. In the spread, we will beat LCM by at least 4 tds. some of you all are hilarious. we don't have to be slot-t, but we defenitly need to be run based and ball control on offense. that is the best defense we have. Vidor in the spread. Id love to see that multiple guys on every team run 4.4.- 4.65🤣🤣 OGVillain 1 Quote
Reagan Posted January 24, 2023 Report Posted January 24, 2023 38 minutes ago, setxathlete14 said: Vidor in the spread. Id love to see that multiple guys on every team run 4.4.- 4.65🤣🤣 If Lumberton can do it, I don't see why Vidor couldn't do it. Again, same type of athletes. But, the Slot-T and Wing-T are good offenses. As always, just need the right coach to coach it. setxathlete14 1 Quote
Separation Scientist Posted January 24, 2023 Report Posted January 24, 2023 On 1/22/2023 at 4:11 PM, OGVillain said: You can measure a coaches successes in many ways, by wins, championships, or in lives changed. Wins are good, Championships are great, but there is no substitute to changing a young athletes life. I’ll take a good coach who can mold a young athletes life, over a great coach that gets wins but doesn’t connect with his players. Spot on! Post of the year. I would change the wording in the last sentence just a bit. I’ll take a good coach who can mold a young athletes life, over a great coach that gets wins but sets a bad example by his behavior. OGVillain 1 Quote
VidorPirate Posted January 24, 2023 Report Posted January 24, 2023 14 minutes ago, Reagan said: If Lumberton can do it, I don't see why Vidor couldn't do it. Again, same type of athletes. But, the Slot-T and Wing-T are good offenses. As always, just need the right coach to coach it. yet no one on vidors team runs under anywhere close to 4.4-4.65. Lumberton has 5-6 guys faster than anyone we have. Add to the fact the size of the offensive and defensive lines. In a couple years, L-town will be back to the same guys as us and we will see how the spread works then setxathlete14 1 Quote
oldschool2 Posted January 24, 2023 Report Posted January 24, 2023 On 1/22/2023 at 4:11 PM, OGVillain said: You can measure a coaches successes in many ways, by wins, championships, or in lives changed. Wins are good, Championships are great, but there is no substitute to changing a young athletes life. I’ll take a good coach who can mold a young athletes life, over a great coach that gets wins but doesn’t connect with his players. Coaches all over the state are fired all of the time for not producing in the "W" column... even if they greatly impact the lives of the players they coach. Mr. Buddy Garrity 1 Quote
Reagan Posted January 24, 2023 Report Posted January 24, 2023 13 minutes ago, oldschool2 said: Coaches all over the state are fired all of the time for not producing in the "W" column... even if they greatly impact the lives of the players they coach. Very true! Quote
OGVillain Posted January 24, 2023 Report Posted January 24, 2023 11 minutes ago, oldschool2 said: Coaches all over the state are fired all of the time for not producing in the "W" column... even if they greatly impact the lives of the players they coach. Correct, does that mean it’s the right decision. There is more to being a High School Coach than just Wins. But debatable! Separation Scientist 1 Quote
oldschool2 Posted January 24, 2023 Report Posted January 24, 2023 2 minutes ago, OGVillain said: Correct, does that mean it’s the right decision. There is more to being a High School Coach than just Wins. But debatable! Not the right decision in my opinion. Sometimes change is necessary for various reasons.. but wins/losses are influenced by much more than the ability to coach. Many times, coaches only have what they have and nobody could've done any better. But making boys into good citizens, that's quite a feat. OGVillain 1 Quote
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