KF89 Posted March 29, 2023 Report Share Posted March 29, 2023 1 hour ago, BADSANTA said: Which school has the most Willie Ray Smith Award Winners? I would guess Silsbee or WOS. Here are the past Willie Ray Smith Award winners: '93-'21 1993: Offense: Dexter Hebert, Kelly; Defense: Frank Middleton, West Brook 1994: Offense: Jay McGuire, Silsbee; Shaun Horn, Jasper 1995: Offense: Jeffery Spikes, Burkeville; Tyseski Adoin, West Brook 1996: Offense: Elijah Burkins, Thomas Jefferson; T.J. Light, Lumberton 1997: Offense: Bryan Bock, Bridge City; Fred Wright, Kountze 1998: Offense: Chip Ambres, West Brook; Defense: Charles Sias, WO-S 1999: Offense: Beaux Daville, Orangefield; Defense: Rod Gulley, Newton 2000: Offense: Dustin Long, PN-G; Defense: Gayron Allen, WO-S 2001: Offense: Sean Yoder, Nederland; Defense: Jermaine Hope, WO-S 2002: Offense: Tony Eckert, Lumberton; Defense: Ricky Wilson, Lincoln 2003: Offense: Matt Peebles, Bridge City; Defense: William Bryant, Jasper 2004: Offense: Jamaal Charles, P.A. Memorial; Defense: William Morrissey, Silsbee 2005: Offense: Jamaal Charles, P.A. Memorial; Defense: Brain West, Ozen 2006: Offense: Kenneth Beasley, WO-S; Defense: Sean Weatherspoon, Jasper 2007: Offense: Micah Mosley, Nederland; Defense: Earl Thomas, WO-S 2008: Offense: Cody Hussey, Lumberton; Defense: Tramain Thomas, East Chambers 2009: Offense: Christine Michael, West Brook Defense: Kevin Robinson, WO-S 2010: Offense: Jeremy Johnson, Silsbee; Jacoby Hale, Central 2011: Offense: Fred Ford, Kirbyville; Defense: Colin Garrett, West Brook 2012: Offense: Terrence Singleton, P.A. Memorial; Defense: Corbin Carr, Nederland 2013: Offense: Montana Quirante, Vidor; Defense: Montana Quirante, Vidor 2014: Offense: Patrick Reed, Silsbee; DeShawn Washington, Nederland 2015: Offense: Michael Jacquet, Central; Defense: Deionte Thompson, WO-S 2016: Offense: Jack Dallas, WO-S; Defense: Steven Tims, WO-S 2017: Offense: Calvin Tyler, Silsbee; Defense: Kary Vincent, PA Memorial 2018: Offense: Roschon Johnson, PN-G; Defense: Corbin Foster, Newton 2019: Offense: Darwin Barlow, Newton; Defense: Darrell Hawkins, Jr., West Brook 2020: Offense: Troy Yowman, West Brook; Defense: Tyrone Brown, WO-S 2021: Offense: Kheagian Heckaman, HF, Defense: Leighton Foster, Newton UNOFFICIAL COUNT WOS-10 West Brook- 7 Silsbee- 5 Nederland- 4 P.A. Memorial- 4 Newton- 4 WOSdrummer99, Mr. Buddy Garrity and BADSANTA 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
purpleeagle Posted March 29, 2023 Report Share Posted March 29, 2023 1 hour ago, BADSANTA said: I'm disappointed 6 years later than Dontre Thomas who had 70 plus TDs didnt win for Silsbee. In one year? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AggiesAreWe Posted March 29, 2023 Author Report Share Posted March 29, 2023 27 minutes ago, purpleeagle said: In one year? Yes. He had 41 passing TD's and 30 rushing TD's in 2016 season. Had a total offense of 5000 yards that year. 3600 passing, 1400 rushing. BEARCPA and BADSANTA 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WOSdrummer99 Posted March 29, 2023 Report Share Posted March 29, 2023 2 hours ago, BADSANTA said: Miller has 40 offer all from Major D1 schools Bama, Texas, Georgia, USC, Ohio St, TCU, A&M etc.... He is the best football player in SETX right now hands down. After winning the 4A POY, no doubt he is the best in SETX. But IMO this should be awarded to a senior. I see Jamaal Charles only one to win back to back. Miller gonna do it too. How many JRs have won? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BEARCPA Posted March 29, 2023 Report Share Posted March 29, 2023 How many non-linebackers have won the award besides Red Bryant, Earl Thomas, Tramain Thomas, Corbin Carr, Deshawn Washington, Deionte Thompson, and Kary Vincent? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AggiesAreWe Posted March 29, 2023 Author Report Share Posted March 29, 2023 Just now, BEARCPA said: How many non-linebackers have won the award besides Red Bryant, Earl Thomas, Tramain Thomas, Corbin Carr, Deshawn Washington, Deionte Thompson, and Kary Vincent? William Morrison was a defensive lineman. So was Middleton and Light. BADSANTA and BEARCPA 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gocats90 Posted March 29, 2023 Report Share Posted March 29, 2023 Let’s take a look at dischler 2,400 yards and 28 touchdowns, and carried Orangefield to a DC this year. Also broke the single season rushing record and all time record at Orangefield. Tough number to beat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CardinalBacker Posted March 29, 2023 Report Share Posted March 29, 2023 2 hours ago, BADSANTA said: I'm disappointed 6 years later than Dontre Thomas who had 70 plus TDs didnt win for Silsbee. The right man won. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AggiesAreWe Posted March 29, 2023 Author Report Share Posted March 29, 2023 Just now, Gocats90 said: Let’s take a look at dischler 2,400 yards and 28 touchdowns, and carried Orangefield to a DC this year. Also broke the single season rushing record and all time record at Orangefield. Tough number to beat. Miller did the same for Silsbee at the WR spot. Also advanced to Regional final. setxathlete14 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CardinalBacker Posted March 29, 2023 Report Share Posted March 29, 2023 40 minutes ago, AggiesAreWe said: Yes. He had 41 passing TD's and 30 rushing TD's in 2016 season. Had a total offense of 5000 yards that year. 3600 passing, 1400 rushing. Maybe if he'd led his team to three State Championship Games, he'd have won the WRS. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AggiesAreWe Posted March 29, 2023 Author Report Share Posted March 29, 2023 2 minutes ago, CardinalBacker said: Maybe if he'd led his team to three State Championship Games, he'd have won the WRS. We know your motivation here. Pretty old. Mr. Buddy Garrity 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CardinalBacker Posted March 29, 2023 Report Share Posted March 29, 2023 15 minutes ago, AggiesAreWe said: We know your motivation here. Pretty old. So is crying about a guy who lost to a better nominee six or seven years after it happened. Let’s make it simple. Pretend that one Friday these two qbs faced off in an actual football game. Which one would lead his team to victory in a head to head battle? That’s another pretty good indicator of who the better player was. FWIW, it’s not statistical analysis, it’s a contest that’s voted on by members of the sports community, a majority of which rightfully believed that The Mighty Jack Dallas deserved the WRS Award. Take a Tums and get over it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
setxathlete14 Posted March 29, 2023 Report Share Posted March 29, 2023 1 hour ago, Gocats90 said: Let’s take a look at dischler 2,400 yards and 28 touchdowns, and carried Orangefield to a DC this year. Also broke the single season rushing record and all time record at Orangefield. Tough number to beat. Didn't take them as far as miller did in the playoffs. I have lumberton qb powell ahead of OF rb... Miller a solid 1st. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AggiesAreWe Posted March 29, 2023 Author Report Share Posted March 29, 2023 33 minutes ago, CardinalBacker said: So is crying about a guy who lost to a better nominee six or seven years after it happened. Let’s make it simple. Pretend that one Friday these two qbs faced off in an actual football game. Which one would lead his team to victory in a head to head battle? That’s another pretty good indicator of who the better player was. FWIW, it’s not statistical analysis, it’s a contest that’s voted on by members of the sports community, a majority of which rightfully believed that The Mighty Jack Dallas deserved the WRS Award. Take a Tums and get over it. My complaint is and has always been we voters need to be more consistent on the criteria of deserving winners. Some vote purely on the current hype. I know some vote strictly for the novelty of it. But, it is what it is. I certainly rather have this way of voting (12-15 media members) than having a fan vote or one or two making the decision. CardinalBacker 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dirty_but_Dazzling Posted March 30, 2023 Report Share Posted March 30, 2023 6 hours ago, BADSANTA said: Miller has 40 offer all from Major D1 schools Bama, Texas, Georgia, USC, Ohio St, TCU, A&M etc.... He is the best football player in SETX right now hands down. being I asked about Williams. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dirty_but_Dazzling Posted March 30, 2023 Report Share Posted March 30, 2023 6 hours ago, BADSANTA said: Miller has 40 offer all from Major D1 schools Bama, Texas, Georgia, USC, Ohio St, TCU, A&M etc.... He is the best football player in SETX right now hands down. I will help you stand corrected. 27 is not 40. I have not ever said Miller isn't a good player. Recently he has dropped in the recruiting rankings for some reason. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EaglesFootball Posted March 30, 2023 Report Share Posted March 30, 2023 4 hours ago, BEARCPA said: How many non-linebackers have won the award besides Red Bryant, Earl Thomas, Tramain Thomas, Corbin Carr, Deshawn Washington, Deionte Thompson, and Kary Vincent? Rod Gulley Newton DB 1999 BEARCPA 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Buddy Garrity Posted March 30, 2023 Report Share Posted March 30, 2023 20 minutes ago, Dirty_but_Dazzling said: I will help you stand corrected. 27 is not 40. I have not ever said Miller isn't a good player. Recently he has dropped in the recruiting rankings for some reason. In bold: if that's true I wonder how much camp performances factor into that........ 🤔 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dirty_but_Dazzling Posted March 30, 2023 Report Share Posted March 30, 2023 1 minute ago, Mr. Buddy Garrity said: In bold: if that's true I wonder how much camp performances factor into that........ 🤔 oh it's true. This is the hidden content, please Sign In or Sign Up Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AshlyHasBeen Posted March 30, 2023 Report Share Posted March 30, 2023 24/7 has Miller with 43 offers. This is the hidden content, please Sign In or Sign Up He’s thinking he’ll commit in August BADSANTA and Mr. Buddy Garrity 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AshlyHasBeen Posted March 30, 2023 Report Share Posted March 30, 2023 24/7 has Miller ranked #61 overall currently. He reached an all-time high of #57 on February 27. He dropped .0004 on his overall ranking March 21. This came after he went up .0013. setxathlete14 and Mr. Buddy Garrity 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
purpleeagle Posted March 30, 2023 Report Share Posted March 30, 2023 WO-S has 8 on defense and two on offense. Tells you a lot about the consistent teams. The years Newton made it to state 7 times was with good defenses. The same for WO-S, Gilmer and Carthage. PN-G finally figured that out last year. Good defenses give the offenses more opportunities. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AggiesAreWe Posted March 30, 2023 Author Report Share Posted March 30, 2023 5 hours ago, AshlyKBMT said: 24/7 has Miller with 43 offers. This is the hidden content, please Sign In or Sign Up He’s thinking he’ll commit in August That's what I saw. South Florida just offered yesterday. I speak to Dre'lon's dad about once a week. He and I are good friends. He keeps me informed on a weekly basis. As always Ash, you are spot on with your post. BADSANTA, AshlyHasBeen and Bobcat1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
setxathlete14 Posted March 30, 2023 Report Share Posted March 30, 2023 Colorado would be hard to pass up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WOSdrummer99 Posted March 30, 2023 Report Share Posted March 30, 2023 32 minutes ago, setxathlete14 said: Colorado would be hard to pass up. Urinalysis would be harder to pass as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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