BADSANTA Posted March 30, 2023 Report Share Posted March 30, 2023 20 hours ago, Dirty_but_Dazzling said: I will help you stand corrected. 27 is not 40. I have not ever said Miller isn't a good player. Recently he has dropped in the recruiting rankings for some reason. Not from what I've seen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BADSANTA Posted March 30, 2023 Report Share Posted March 30, 2023 20 hours ago, Dirty_but_Dazzling said: I will help you stand corrected. 27 is not 40. I have not ever said Miller isn't a good player. Recently he has dropped in the recruiting rankings for some reason. 43 to be exact Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BADSANTA Posted March 30, 2023 Report Share Posted March 30, 2023 23 hours ago, CardinalBacker said: Maybe if he'd led his team to three State Championship Games, he'd have won the WRS. They beat Bridge City😂😂😂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BADSANTA Posted March 30, 2023 Report Share Posted March 30, 2023 There are a lot of former and current NFL players on that list. I do feel Miller and Williams had the best seasons. Miller averaged 24 yards per catch wow!! You also forget he had several kickoff and put returns for TDs. Williams dominated for Silsbee on defense. Good luck to all the kids as every single kid is well deserved. I would have like to see Mason Brisbane for Silsbee as well. He had an outstanding season at QB. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Buddy Garrity Posted March 30, 2023 Report Share Posted March 30, 2023 1 hour ago, setxathlete14 said: Colorado would be hard to pass up. Miller will be playing somewhere in the SEC. AggiesAreWe 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOTROD309 Posted April 1, 2023 Report Share Posted April 1, 2023 On 3/29/2023 at 1:28 PM, KF89 said: Here are the past Willie Ray Smith Award winners: '93-'21 1993: Offense: Dexter Hebert, Kelly; Defense: Frank Middleton, West Brook 1994: Offense: Jay McGuire, Silsbee; Shaun Horn, Jasper 1995: Offense: Jeffery Spikes, Burkeville; Tyseski Adoin, West Brook 1996: Offense: Elijah Burkins, Thomas Jefferson; T.J. Light, Lumberton 1997: Offense: Bryan Bock, Bridge City; Fred Wright, Kountze 1998: Offense: Chip Ambres, West Brook; Defense: Charles Sias, WO-S 1999: Offense: Beaux Daville, Orangefield; Defense: Rod Gulley, Newton 2000: Offense: Dustin Long, PN-G; Defense: Gayron Allen, WO-S 2001: Offense: Sean Yoder, Nederland; Defense: Jermaine Hope, WO-S 2002: Offense: Tony Eckert, Lumberton; Defense: Ricky Wilson, Lincoln 2003: Offense: Matt Peebles, Bridge City; Defense: William Bryant, Jasper 2004: Offense: Jamaal Charles, P.A. Memorial; Defense: William Morrissey, Silsbee 2005: Offense: Jamaal Charles, P.A. Memorial; Defense: Brain West, Ozen 2006: Offense: Kenneth Beasley, WO-S; Defense: Sean Weatherspoon, Jasper 2007: Offense: Micah Mosley, Nederland; Defense: Earl Thomas, WO-S 2008: Offense: Cody Hussey, Lumberton; Defense: Tramain Thomas, East Chambers 2009: Offense: Christine Michael, West Brook Defense: Kevin Robinson, WO-S 2010: Offense: Jeremy Johnson, Silsbee; Jacoby Hale, Central 2011: Offense: Fred Ford, Kirbyville; Defense: Colin Garrett, West Brook 2012: Offense: Terrence Singleton, P.A. Memorial; Defense: Corbin Carr, Nederland 2013: Offense: Montana Quirante, Vidor; Defense: Montana Quirante, Vidor 2014: Offense: Patrick Reed, Silsbee; DeShawn Washington, Nederland 2015: Offense: Michael Jacquet, Central; Defense: Deionte Thompson, WO-S 2016: Offense: Jack Dallas, WO-S; Defense: Steven Tims, WO-S 2017: Offense: Calvin Tyler, Silsbee; Defense: Kary Vincent, PA Memorial 2018: Offense: Roschon Johnson, PN-G; Defense: Corbin Foster, Newton 2019: Offense: Darwin Barlow, Newton; Defense: Darrell Hawkins, Jr., West Brook 2020: Offense: Troy Yowman, West Brook; Defense: Tyrone Brown, WO-S 2021: Offense: Kheagian Heckaman, HF, Defense: Leighton Foster, Newton UNOFFICIAL COUNT WOS-10 West Brook- 7 Silsbee- 5 Nederland- 4 P.A. Memorial- 4 Newton- 4 2020 Defense went to Ayden Bell Silsbee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WOSdrummer99 Posted April 1, 2023 Report Share Posted April 1, 2023 39 minutes ago, HOTROD309 said: 2020 Defense went to Ayden Bell Silsbee Sure about that? This is the hidden content, please Sign In or Sign Up Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AggiesAreWe Posted April 2, 2023 Author Report Share Posted April 2, 2023 4 hours ago, WOSdrummer99 said: Sure about that? This is the hidden content, please Sign In or Sign Up This is the hidden content, please Sign In or Sign Up BADSANTA 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AggiesAreWe Posted April 2, 2023 Author Report Share Posted April 2, 2023 Heckaman and Foster should be listed for 2022 and not 2021. Ceasar and Bell were the winners for 2021. Yowman and Brown were the winners in 2020. That would give Silsbee with 6 winners going into this years WRS. WOSdrummer99 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOTROD309 Posted April 2, 2023 Report Share Posted April 2, 2023 18 hours ago, WOSdrummer99 said: Sure about that? This is the hidden content, please Sign In or Sign Up Ha … I just noticed the plaque on the bookshelf says 2020 🤦🏻♂️ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AggiesAreWe Posted April 2, 2023 Author Report Share Posted April 2, 2023 2 minutes ago, HOTROD309 said: Ha … I just noticed the plaque on the bookshelf says 2020 🤦🏻♂️ I think the confusion is a media source started listing the winners for the year in which it was awarded and not the season for which it was played. It's 2023 and this year's award is for the season of 2022. Some will list it as 2023 winner, some 2022. HOTROD309 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WOSdrummer99 Posted April 2, 2023 Report Share Posted April 2, 2023 4 hours ago, AggiesAreWe said: It's 2023 and this year's award is for the season of 2022. Some will list it as 2023 winner, some 2022. According to the organization giving the award. What is it officially? Edit... I've been searching photos of the award to see what's on the plaque. Can't make it out. All I see on the Lions club page is "31st annual" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigdog Posted April 6, 2023 Report Share Posted April 6, 2023 Who are the voters for the award? Local media? Coaches? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AggiesAreWe Posted April 6, 2023 Author Report Share Posted April 6, 2023 5 hours ago, Bigdog said: Who are the voters for the award? Local media? Coaches? Local media. There are 12-15 of us that vote each year. I have been a voter since 2012. BADSANTA 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
setxathlete14 Posted April 6, 2023 Report Share Posted April 6, 2023 Not sure how miller lost that lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AggiesAreWe Posted April 6, 2023 Author Report Share Posted April 6, 2023 3 hours ago, setxathlete14 said: Not sure how miller lost that lol Lost what? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scoopno1 Posted April 8, 2023 Report Share Posted April 8, 2023 I have been a voter since the original presentation. I think that have voted every year except one. When it first started we met each Sunday afternoon and talked about the weeks games. That was kind of fun but it got real old. I was ready to quit and then they quit meeting. I think all the voters have their own way of making their decisions. For years I felt it should be a senior award and I would not voter for any juniors. I have voted for juniors in recent years but I don't think I ever voted for the player if he won as a junior and was on the ballot as a senior. You can't see all the players so you have to depend on what coaches tell you and in my case I used to have a lot of friends in the news business and I would ask some of them about players that I had not seen. Many of my friends in the news business are no longer in the business so even that has changed. This will probably be my last year but I think the Lions are having a tough time finding enough judges so if I am still working any I may do it again. BADSANTA 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WOSdrummer99 Posted April 18, 2023 Report Share Posted April 18, 2023 On 4/2/2023 at 8:30 AM, AggiesAreWe said: I think the confusion is a media source started listing the winners for the year in which it was awarded and not the season for which it was played. It's 2023 and this year's award is for the season of 2022. Some will list it as 2023 winner, some 2022. Yall were right. Finally got a good look at the award. Those years are for the seasons they played. Not when the award was given. Check it out @ 5:55 @Dirty_but_Dazzling Dirty_but_Dazzling 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach_Izzy Posted April 18, 2023 Report Share Posted April 18, 2023 When did they start allowing underclassmen to get nominated for this award? If I remember correctly the year I was finalist, we were all seniors. This has to be new right? Even the Houston Touchdown Club only allows Seniors to be nominated. I’ll also add that this award lacks substance because the people voting more than likely has never seen most of the players play. Houston TD Club meets before the season starts to watch film on all the players who coaches nominate & make their selections. Then they meet several times during the season to watch film of recent games to either make cuts or move player to the next round of selections. They have a very strict criteria when it comes to their award & I think the WRS voters should take note & catch up with the times. But as far as who wins, my heart hopes it’s Davion but I’m biased cause I coached him. Realistically though, Drelon should win the offensive award with flying colors! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BADSANTA Posted April 19, 2023 Report Share Posted April 19, 2023 On 4/18/2023 at 2:20 AM, Coach_Izzy said: When did they start allowing underclassmen to get nominated for this award? If I remember correctly the year I was finalist, we were all seniors. This has to be new right? Even the Houston Touchdown Club only allows Seniors to be nominated. I’ll also add that this award lacks substance because the people voting more than likely has never seen most of the players play. Houston TD Club meets before the season starts to watch film on all the players who coaches nominate & make their selections. Then they meet several times during the season to watch film of recent games to either make cuts or move player to the next round of selections. They have a very strict criteria when it comes to their award & I think the WRS voters should take note & catch up with the times. But as far as who wins, my heart hopes it’s Davion but I’m biased cause I coached him. Realistically though, Drelon should win the offensive award with flying colors! Jamal Charles is a 2x winner so maybe since 2003. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
head13 Posted April 20, 2023 Report Share Posted April 20, 2023 How is Powell not getting any love with his stat line ? KF89 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach_Izzy Posted April 20, 2023 Report Share Posted April 20, 2023 13 hours ago, BADSANTA said: Jamal Charles is a 2x winner so maybe since 2003. Gotcha..Always thought this was an award for seniors Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AggiesAreWe Posted April 20, 2023 Author Report Share Posted April 20, 2023 1 hour ago, Coach_Izzy said: Gotcha..Always thought this was an award for seniors As far as I know, it's never been a "senior only" award. Been years where the finalists were all seniors, but all classifications are eligible. Looking at some finalists (not necessarily winners) in the 1990's, there were some underclassmen nominated. I know since I have been a voter (2012) all classes are eligible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TxHoops Posted April 20, 2023 Report Share Posted April 20, 2023 On 3/29/2023 at 7:46 PM, Mr. Buddy Garrity said: In bold: if that's true I wonder how much camp performances factor into that........ 🤔 A lot when moves significantly up or down. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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