It’s the craziest thing…

[CardinalBacker]

1 hour ago, Unwoke said:

The reason you didn’t know that is because it didn’t happen. CB is a cowardly liar who likes to twist the truth. But yet you swallow his BS hook, line, and sinker which is not surprising because you want it to be oh so true. What’s dangerous is ignorant individuals like you that are too lazy to actually look into the truth but vote believing that nonsense that is spewed by ignorant people like CB.
 

 

Why you gotta lie, bro?

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Pennylvania, Wisconsin… 

Pence had the duty under the constitution to count the votes before him. Not pause, not refigure, not toss out, not judge, nothing. Just count. But don’t take my word for it. From the constitution itself. 

“The President of the Senate shall, in the Presence of the Senate and House of Representatives, open all the Certificates, and the Votesshall then be counted. The Person having the greatest Number of Votes shall be the President.”

 

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55 minutes ago, CardinalBacker said:

 

Why you gotta lie, bro?

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Pennylvania, Wisconsin… 

Pence had the duty under the constitution to count the votes before him. Not pause, not refigure, not toss out, not judge, nothing. Just count. But don’t take my word for it. From the constitution itself. 

“The President of the Senate shall, in the Presence of the Senate and House of Representatives, open all the Certificates, and the Votesshall then be counted. The Person having the greatest Number of Votes shall be the President.”

 

That’s your interpretation. Other constitutional scholars would disagree with you. Copy and paste the AP all you want Bro. Lol

The difficulty was that the existing slates of electors had not been certified after an election conducted “pursuant to [the states’] own laws.” Pence was simply being asked to provide the state legislatures in the contested states with the time necessary to properly assess the legitimacy of their electoral votes. 

The Constitution says only State Legislatures can change voting laws,  Non legislative actors cannot. And that’s what happened in those states in those states. There’s no exception in the Constitution for fake pandemics. 😘

[CardinalBacker]

1 hour ago, Unwoke said:

That’s your interpretation. Other constitutional scholars would disagree with you. Copy and paste the AP all you want Bro. Lol

The difficulty was that the existing slates of electors had not been certified after an election conducted “pursuant to [the states’] own laws.” Pence was simply being asked to provide the state legislatures in the contested states with the time necessary to properly assess the legitimacy of their electoral votes. 

The Constitution says only State Legislatures can change voting laws,  Non legislative actors cannot. And that’s what happened in those states in those states. There’s no exception in the Constitution for fake pandemics. 😘

The date for counting the electoral votes is fixed by law as January 6 following each presidential election (3 U.S.C. §15), unless the date is changed by law.

 

 

[CardinalBacker]

1 hour ago, Unwoke said:

That’s your interpretation. Other constitutional scholars would disagree with you. Copy and paste the AP all you want Bro. Lol

The difficulty was that the existing slates of electors had not been certified after an election conducted “pursuant to [the states’] own laws.” Pence was simply being asked to provide the state legislatures in the contested states with the time necessary to properly assess the legitimacy of their electoral votes. 

The Constitution says only State Legislatures can change voting laws,  Non legislative actors cannot. And that’s what happened in those states in those states. There’s no exception in the Constitution for fake pandemics. 😘

The ironic part of your argument is that you cry that “pausing” the counting of votes on election night is proof that Dems cheated, but then Pence is a traitor for not pausing the counting of electoral votes to give state legislatures more time to explore trump’s already proven to be false claims of voter fraud. 

Trump’s fans are crybabies who can’t take the fact that Biden finished all over Trump’s back  

 

[LumRaiderFan]

4 minutes ago, CardinalBacker said:

The ironic part of your argument is that you cry that “pausing” the counting of votes on election night is proof that Dems cheated, but then Pence is a traitor for not pausing the counting of electoral votes to give state legislatures more time to explore trump’s already proven to be false claims of voter fraud. 

Trump’s fans are crybabies who can’t take the fact that Biden finished all over Trump’s back  

 

Says the guy that has voted for Trump every chance he got.

As far as crying, you do way more of that than anyone on here, but it’s entertaining.

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36 minutes ago, Reagan said:

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Lmao…..don’t forget Stacey Abrams.  

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1 hour ago, CardinalBacker said:

The ironic part of your argument is that you cry that “pausing” the counting of votes on election night is proof that Dems cheated, but then Pence is a traitor for not pausing the counting of electoral votes to give state legislatures more time to explore trump’s already proven to be false claims of voter fraud. 

Trump’s fans are crybabies who can’t take the fact that Biden finished all over Trump’s back  

 

Your comparison is doesn’t even come close. Nice try. Very creative. Lol

[Unwoke]

1 hour ago, CardinalBacker said:

The date for counting the electoral votes is fixed by law as January 6 following each presidential election (3 U.S.C. §15), unless the date is changed by law.

 

 

As usual you like to speak in half truths and twist facts which basically means you’re a COWARDLY LIAR. 
 

You failed to mention the Electoral Reform Act that was crammed into a 4,000 page spending law back in January of this year that dealt with the Vice President’s role in counting the electoral votes. What’s in play now was not in play on J6 2020. Reason they changed is because the Vice President did have the power to kick electoral votes back to the state legislatures when there was irregularities or wrongdoing that needed to be addressed. 
 

It’s amazing that you didn’t have a problem at all of the Democrats taking 3 years to bludgeon Trump in a Fake Russia Hoax Investigation that they knew was fake the whole time but you expect states to have a investigation wrapped up in 2 months because of the massive voter fraud and election interference. 
 

You have zero credibility and no sense at all to have that type of mindset. But you do expect from 24/7. Lol
 

Days before the end of the 117th Congress, an omnibus appropriations bill was signed by  President Joe Biden. Included in that 4,000-page spending law was the 

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, or ECRA. Hammered out by lawmakers including Sens. Joe Manchin (D-W.Va.) and Susan Collins (R-Maine), this bipartisan legislation is intended to provide better guardrails to govern how presidential election results get from the states to the Electoral College process and then to Congress, and how Congress handles them once there.

According to many, the 

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 was overdue for an overhaul because it did not offer clear guidance on counting electoral votes or how to resolve possible disputes. (History buffs will note that in 1887 Congress created the ECA specifically to preclude problems such as those that arose in the 

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 of Rutherford B. Hayes from happening again.)

While legal scholars and politicos have been sounding the alarm for decades that the ECA’s antiquated language was imprecise on the vice president’s role, among other things, most Americans didn’t think twice about the mechanics of selecting a president until 2020. That’s when the nation learned the ECA was open to interpretation, and efforts to clarify its meaning gained steam.

The new law mainly addresses what Congress does after electors are sent forward from the states. It creates a new threshold for members to object to a slate of electors (one-fifth of the members of both the House and the Senate), identifies the role of the vice president as “solely ministerial” and clarifies that Congress must defer to the slates as determined by the states.

It also addresses the states’ side of the equation. It codifies that the executive of each state sends forward the state’s slate of electors. The law indicates that, in this context, “the executive” is usually a governor. But if state law in effect prior to the election explicitly identifies another officer, such as the secretary of state, that works as well—the law simply requires certainty before the election.

Additionally, it requires some kind of “security feature” on the certificate of ascertainment (the official document identifying a state’s appointed electors), again as determined by the state before the election. The goal is to be sure that the right slate—and only that slate—is transmitted. The law also clarifies that electors shall be appointed “in accordance with the laws of the State enacted prior to election day.” A state can’t change the rules after the voting ends.

 

[CardinalBacker]

36 minutes ago, Unwoke said:

As usual you like to speak in half truths and twist facts which basically means you’re a COWARDLY LIAR. 
 

You failed to mention the Electoral Reform Act that was crammed into a 4,000 page spending law back in January of this year that dealt with the Vice President’s role in counting the electoral votes. What’s in play now was not in play on J6 2020. Reason they changed is because the Vice President did have the power to kick electoral votes back to the state legislatures when there was irregularities or wrongdoing that needed to be addressed. 
 

It’s amazing that you didn’t have a problem at all of the Democrats taking 3 years to bludgeon Trump in a Fake Russia Hoax Investigation that they knew was fake the whole time but you expect states to have a investigation wrapped up in 2 months because of the massive voter fraud and election interference. 
 

You have zero credibility and no sense at all to have that type of mindset. But you do expect from 24/7. Lol
 

Days before the end of the 117th Congress, an omnibus appropriations bill was signed by  President Joe Biden. Included in that 4,000-page spending law was the 

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According to many, the 

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 of Rutherford B. Hayes from happening again.)

While legal scholars and politicos have been sounding the alarm for decades that the ECA’s antiquated language was imprecise on the vice president’s role, among other things, most Americans didn’t think twice about the mechanics of selecting a president until 2020. That’s when the nation learned the ECA was open to interpretation, and efforts to clarify its meaning gained steam.

The new law mainly addresses what Congress does after electors are sent forward from the states. It creates a new threshold for members to object to a slate of electors (one-fifth of the members of both the House and the Senate), identifies the role of the vice president as “solely ministerial” and clarifies that Congress must defer to the slates as determined by the states.

It also addresses the states’ side of the equation. It codifies that the executive of each state sends forward the state’s slate of electors. The law indicates that, in this context, “the executive” is usually a governor. But if state law in effect prior to the election explicitly identifies another officer, such as the secretary of state, that works as well—the law simply requires certainty before the election.

Additionally, it requires some kind of “security feature” on the certificate of ascertainment (the official document identifying a state’s appointed electors), again as determined by the state before the election. The goal is to be sure that the right slate—and only that slate—is transmitted. The law also clarifies that electors shall be appointed “in accordance with the laws of the State enacted prior to election day.” A state can’t change the rules after the voting ends.

 

As always, you’re completely wrong. That’s from the Election Code. It’s been in place since 1887. 
 

So much good information is available to you, but you listen to people who are just wrong. 
 

We buy you books and buy you books, but all you do is chew the covers off of them. 
 

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45 minutes ago, CardinalBacker said:

As always, you’re completely wrong. That’s from the Election Code. It’s been in place since 1887. 
 

So much good information is available to you, but you listen to people who are just wrong. 
 

We buy you books and buy you books, but all you do is chew the covers off of them. 
 

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Wrong again 

One question. What does the Constitution say about who changes states voting laws? 

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[thetragichippy]

On 8/2/2023 at 1:24 PM, CardinalBacker said:

I’m more concerned when my party is determined to renominate Trump after all of the damage that he did.

The Republican party is not "your party".......if it was, you would let "democracy" run its course and see if he is the nominee and if so, vote for Trump because "your party" nominated him.

Vote or write in anyone else and you voted for the Democratic nominee 

[PAMFAM10]

Republicans this democratic that. Do you guys even get paid? Is this the American dream? I’m better than you because I love my party more. Ok.

[CardinalBacker]

21 minutes ago, PAMFAM10 said:

Republicans this democratic that. Do you guys even get paid? Is this the American dream? I’m better than you because I love my party more. Ok.

There isn’t an original thought in any of these brains, Amigo. It’s just about who can find the most internet sources to support their pre-formed opinions. 

[DonTheCon2024]

47 minutes ago, PAMFAM10 said:

Republicans this democratic that. Do you guys even get paid? Is this the American dream? I’m better than you because I love my party more. Ok.

Political ruling class laughing to the bank, while the poors are on setxsports.com arguing and ready to kill each other. Buncha BROKIES

[LumRaiderFan]

45 minutes ago, PAMFAM10 said:

Republicans this democratic that. Do you guys even get paid? Is this the American dream? I’m better than you because I love my party more. Ok.

Lol, that’s not what anyone is even saying.  All I have said is if it comes down to Biden or Trump, it’s a no brainer.

And if you think I love the Republicans you haven’t read many of my posts.

[Reagan]

Watch–Trump Attorney: ‘Not a Coincidence’ Charges Filed Against Trump Evidence of Corruption Emerges: ‘Election Interference’!

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On 8/1/2023 at 8:49 PM, Unwoke said:

Today's indictment eviscerates the First Amendment and criminalizes the ruling regime's number one political opponent for daring to ask questions about the 2020 election results.

It’s not about his speech. It’s his actions.

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16 minutes ago, Reagan said:

Watch–Trump Attorney: ‘Not a Coincidence’ Charges Filed Against Trump Evidence of Corruption Emerges: ‘Election Interference’!

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Breitbart is BS, not legitimate journalism.

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On 8/2/2023 at 4:11 PM, Reagan said:

RIGGED: Obama-Appointed, J6-Hating Judge Presiding Over Trump Case Worked at Same Law Firm as Hunter Biden!  Blatant conflict of interest!

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@Big girl @UT alum @CardinalBacker  What say you?  Conflict of interest?  Thoughts?!

She was approved by a 95-0 vote in the Senate. That’s as bipartisan as it gets. I’m not even going to read the Liberty Daily. That’s a propaganda publication from a highly partisan, highly conservative evangelical zealot.

[Reagan]

6 minutes ago, UT alum said:

Breitbart is BS, not legitimate journalism.

So -- that wasn't an actual video of one of Trump's lawyers?  

[LumRaiderFan]

8 minutes ago, UT alum said:

Breitbart is BS, not legitimate journalism.

Lame, tired argument when you can’t dispute the point.

[UT alum]

2 minutes ago, Reagan said:

So -- that wasn't an actual video of one of Trump's lawyers?  

If it was, you can bet Breitbart used it out of context.  I believe nothing they say.

[Reagan]

5 minutes ago, UT alum said:

She was approved by a 95-0 vote in the Senate. That’s as bipartisan as it gets. I’m not even going to read the Liberty Daily. That’s a propaganda publication from a highly partisan, highly conservative evangelical zealot.

Chutkan donated $1,500 to Barack Obama's campaign between 2008 and 2009!  Yeah, she's not biased.  LOL!  Yobama also appointed her husband as a Judge.  Yobama appointed people to do his bidding, NOT to follow the law.  Check the 2 on the Supreme Court.  Plus this recent one has Yobama's finger prints all over it!