Gasilla Posted September 10, 2023 Report Posted September 10, 2023 12 hours ago, WOSdrummer99 said: I know what u mean. But not anybody. Imo, if we had an experienced staff that had already proven their system could win. We would be competing with the top ranked teams in our division in December. This is an experiment trying to do things their way and figuring it out. It's like on the job training with no supervisor. I still think we're making progress. Slowly... 2 steps forward 1 step back. We'll get back at least one of those losses from last year. And not have to face Bellville in round 1. I agree with the first part of your post. You're exactly right it IS on the job training. The problem is that they had so little experience that the learning curve could be forever. I mean, we're still not doing the "101" type of things like containing the edge. Things coaching under an established leader with experience is gained in the short term, not "when they finally figure it out". I think it's sad this program is being destroyed by people with no leadership experience and our program being their "on the job training". The second, I don't agree were not playing Belville because I don't think we beat any of the top three in our district (hope I'm wrong). Our greatest asset at this point is Turner but it looks like we're gonna run him til his tongue drags. He's not gonna make it to those games. Funny, I watched the Texas Longhorns last night shut down the Alabama run game out of the 50 defense... jumping into the 4 man front on obvious passing downs... what a novel thought...🤔 CT was always about stopping the run and controlling the pass. I'm sorry, but you'll never convince me that our players, running a CT trained coach out of the 50, PNG might have scored once. They certainly wouldn't have been able to make a living at it. marshman, MackLewis and dj 2 1
BADSANTA Posted September 10, 2023 Report Posted September 10, 2023 1 hour ago, Gasilla said: I agree with the first part of your post. You're exactly right it IS on the job training. The problem is that they had so little experience that the learning curve could be forever. I mean, we're still not doing the "101" type of things like containing the edge. Things coaching under an established leader with experience is gained in the short term, not "when they finally figure it out". I think it's sad this program is being destroyed by people with no leadership experience and our program being their "on the job training". The second, I don't agree were not playing Belville because I don't think we beat any of the top three in our district (hope I'm wrong). Our greatest asset at this point is Turner but it looks like we're gonna run him til his tongue drags. He's not gonna make it to those games. Funny, I watched the Texas Longhorns last night shut down the Alabama run game out of the 50 defense... jumping into the 4 man front on obvious passing downs... what a novel thought...🤔 CT was always about stopping the run and controlling the pass. I'm sorry, but you'll never convince me that our players, running a CT trained coach out of the 50, PNG might have scored once. They certainly wouldn't have been able to make a living at it. Do you think Coach T ever returns back to the sidelines?
dj Posted September 10, 2023 Report Posted September 10, 2023 51 minutes ago, BADSANTA said: Do you think Coach T ever returns back to the sidelines? No!! He offered to help!! But, this new regime wants no part of the old way.trying to prove a point that another way can make us better.
marshman Posted September 10, 2023 Report Posted September 10, 2023 I’ll never understand why the need to change defenses. Yes I know other types of defenses can be just as effective, but why change just for the sake of change? Especially when the 50 has been very successful at WOS for nearly 40 years. Why the personal vendetta to change things just because you can? Makes no sense whatsoever.
ladybug33 Posted September 10, 2023 Report Posted September 10, 2023 OFF Topic but I see JK Dobbins still doing awesome things. I'm surprised that the team does not want C.T. to help makes no sense to me SMH. dj 1
dj Posted September 10, 2023 Report Posted September 10, 2023 48 minutes ago, ladybug33 said: OFF Topic but I see JK Dobbins still doing awesome things. I'm surprised that the team does not want C.T. to help makes no sense to me SMH. Ladybug33 u truly don't want to know!! And then u would why I'm so upset 😡 with this coaching staff.somethings didn't have to be this way.sometimes in life we all need help sometimes.but,when a person who doesn't have experience at certain things.makes this so idiotic.if u only knew the text messages I receive.makes no sense.the ppl losing here are our kids.and they deserve better. ladybug33 1
dj Posted September 10, 2023 Report Posted September 10, 2023 1 hour ago, marshman said: I’ll never understand why the need to change defenses. Yes I know other types of defenses can be just as effective, but why change just for the sake of change? Especially when the 50 has been very successful at WOS for nearly 40 years. Why the personal vendetta to change things just because you can? Makes no sense whatsoever. Bcz,they want everything that is attached to CT gone.it doesn't matter if it worked or not.but,it started at the top with supt. He doesn't know football. So hired any and everyone that he liked.and it didn't matter if they knew football or not.here's a better question for u?? So it's been over a year and half and u mean to tell me ur OC only know 5 plays.and 85% of ur plays is running the QB.so,hmm why he eant go to the press box and see what the defense is doing to have a better outlook.#refusal!!
ladybug33 Posted September 10, 2023 Report Posted September 10, 2023 25 minutes ago, dj said: Ladybug33 u truly don't want to know!! And then u would why I'm so upset 😡 with this coaching staff.somethings didn't have to be this way.sometimes in life we all need help sometimes.but,when a person who doesn't have experience at certain things.makes this so idiotic.if u only knew the text messages I receive.makes no sense.the ppl losing here are our kids.and they deserve better. I do get it dj. My family is up set too, we are huge WO-S fans, My cousins grandson is a running back for us, is why I'm trying to stay positive for him and the team. But I do get it!
WOSdrummer99 Posted September 10, 2023 Report Posted September 10, 2023 33 minutes ago, ladybug33 said: I do get it dj. My family is up set too, we are huge WO-S fans, My cousins grandson is a running back for us, is why I'm trying to stay positive for him and the team. But I do get it! We all do. It won't always be like this. We just keep ridin for those true Mustangs. The ones in uniform that know what the Silver and Blue is really about. Until this experiment is put out of its misery. Speaking of uniform. Our staff wears the same thing every week. Everyone except the DC ladybug33 1
marshman Posted September 10, 2023 Report Posted September 10, 2023 I wonder how long this experiment will last before they realize it’s not working?
Gasilla Posted September 10, 2023 Report Posted September 10, 2023 3 hours ago, BADSANTA said: Do you think Coach T ever returns back to the sidelines? No sir
Gasilla Posted September 10, 2023 Report Posted September 10, 2023 40 minutes ago, WOSdrummer99 said: We all do. It won't always be like this. We just keep ridin for those true Mustangs. The ones in uniform that know what the Silver and Blue is really about. Until this experiment is put out of its misery. Speaking of uniform. Our staff wears the same thing every week. Everyone except the DC I've wondered why he's wearing Royal blue while everyone else is wearing Navy, but I think it's so the defense can see him when he's calling the defense. That's what I'm hoping anyway.
ladybug33 Posted September 10, 2023 Report Posted September 10, 2023 IMO coach Garrett should be calling the offensive plays. setxathlete14 1
WOSdrummer99 Posted September 10, 2023 Report Posted September 10, 2023 43 minutes ago, Gasilla said: I've wondered why he's wearing Royal blue while everyone else is wearing Navy, but I think it's so the defense can see him when he's calling the defense. That's what I'm hoping anyway. Makes sense. Like the kids can't tell them apart from 20 yards away. They were using the big poster board signs to call in plays the 1st 2 weeks. But I didn't see it that much against PNG. Another thing that stuck out to me was the constant changing of personnel on the field. It was sloppy trying to get guys off the field in time.
Rez Posted September 10, 2023 Report Posted September 10, 2023 If coach Thompson wanted to give me advice on how to tie my shoes, I’d take it. That any program, much less the one he brought to state four years in a row, would tell him no is crazy. dj 1
dj Posted September 10, 2023 Report Posted September 10, 2023 1 hour ago, Rez Ipsa said: If coach Thompson wanted to give me advice on how to tie my shoes, I’d take it. That any program, much less the one he brought to state four years in a row, would tell him no is crazy. If you know the answer please enlighten me. Rez and Gasilla 2
MackLewis Posted September 10, 2023 Report Posted September 10, 2023 6 hours ago, dj said: No!! He offered to help!! But, this new regime wants no part of the old way.trying to prove a point that another way can make us better. That’s pitiful.. IMO the person to blame is the superintendent. He needs to go. In order for him to go, the school board should be voted out. The Sup, from everything I’ve ever been told, had his mind made up on Hickman and never considered anyone else. There was never a job search. It started with the PC crap about the “chain gang” moniker. Then hire a head coach with no experience, and run off all the coaches loyal to CT and the “old” ways. Erase all identity of what WOS was and change the culture. Gasilla and dj 1 1
pakronos Posted September 11, 2023 Report Posted September 11, 2023 11 hours ago, Sledge said: He did not throw plethora of passes however the ones I seen him throw where either dropped are missed one in particular the receiver was wide open and bobbled the ball another one the receiver was open in the red zone and the ball hit his finger tips. If you need stats why don't you look them up ? just seeing how people are saying he came in and took command and led them to victory when all he did was hand the ball off and the running game took command. i don't need to look at his stats to know he didn't look good lol Sledge and dj 1 1
pakronos Posted September 11, 2023 Report Posted September 11, 2023 1 hour ago, MackLewis said: That’s pitiful.. IMO the person to blame is the superintendent. He needs to go. In order for him to go, the school board should be voted out. The Sup, from everything I’ve ever been told, had his mind made up on Hickman and never considered anyone else. There was never a job search. It started with the PC crap about the “chain gang” moniker. Then hire a head coach with no experience, and run off all the coaches loyal to CT and the “old” ways. Erase all identity of what WOS was and change the culture. my classmate works for the district and we was discussing this on our trip in Destin. He said as long as the district is doing well in academics, staying the black financially, the district itself keeps getting good ratings, kids are learning...nobody is getting fired because the team isn't winning and he's a principle. he also told me and i did not know this, WOS is a rich school district
Sledge Posted September 11, 2023 Report Posted September 11, 2023 5 minutes ago, pakronos said: just seeing how people are saying he came in and took command and led them to victory when all he did was hand the ball off and the running game took command. i don't need to look at his stats to know he didn't look good lol Obviously I disagree with your statement.
pakronos Posted September 11, 2023 Report Posted September 11, 2023 1 minute ago, Sledge said: Obviously I disagree with your statement. ok
ladybug33 Posted September 11, 2023 Report Posted September 11, 2023 28 minutes ago, pakronos said: my classmate works for the district and we was discussing this on our trip in Destin. He said as long as the district is doing well in academics, staying the black financially, the district itself keeps getting good ratings, kids are learning...nobody is getting fired because the team isn't winning and he's a principle. he also told me and i did not know this, WOS is a rich school district Hum that is interesting to know. Back when I went to WOS it was said that our district would give money to other schools. I'm not sure how true that is, maybe someone else may know better than me. The community is tired of not being heard, and are voting school board members out slowly. Eventually, changes are going to be made, when TEA rolls out their new ratings.
WOSdrummer99 Posted September 11, 2023 Report Posted September 11, 2023 1 hour ago, ladybug33 said: when TEA rolls out their new ratings. They already walked back the B rating that was awarded last year. This is the hidden content, please Sign In or Sign Up
3rdone Posted September 12, 2023 Report Posted September 12, 2023 23 hours ago, ladybug33 said: Hum that is interesting to know. Back when I went to WOS it was said that our district would give money to other schools. I'm not sure how true that is, maybe someone else may know better than me. The community is tired of not being heard, and are voting school board members out slowly. Eventually, changes are going to be made, when TEA rolls out their new ratings. Yes it is true. Our old books would go to LCM. WOS had money to burn due to the chemical plants in the area. We had experimental equipment, embroidered towels with a belt loop...none of that tear a towel and make your own crap. We wore black shoes and lost games and they shelved the shoes and never brought them back. Of course this was during WOS hay day of making money and a thriving economy for Orange. I recently visited Orange and almost didn't recognized the place...really sad.
SmashMouth Posted September 12, 2023 Report Posted September 12, 2023 On 9/10/2023 at 12:10 PM, dj said: No!! He offered to help!! But, this new regime wants no part of the old way.trying to prove a point that another way can make us better. Untrue
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