Derek Chauvin stabbed

[Big girl]

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[tvc184]

A man convicted of murder when they couldn’t even prove murder beyond a reasonable doubt. 

[Big girl]

1 hour ago, tvc184 said:

A man convicted of murder when they couldn’t even prove murder beyond a reasonable doubt. 

What?

[tvc184]

1 hour ago, Big girl said:

What?

The autopsy showed a potentially fatal amount of fentanyl in his blood stream, methamphetamine, cotinine (while nicotine itself is not likely fatal alone, but it raises the heart rate and blood pressure), hypertension, severe arteriosclerosis and he was gasping for breath while he was in the back of a police unit.

 He was ruled to die of cardiopulmonary arrest with several issues that could have caused death…. BUT, the prosecution says to the jury to ignore all of that and determine that a single issue caused his death.

How do you prove beyond a reasonable doubt a cause of death when more than one factor could have caused it? 

[Big girl]

11 hours ago, tvc184 said:

The autopsy showed a potentially fatal amount of fentanyl in his blood stream, methamphetamine, cotinine (while nicotine itself is not likely fatal alone, but it raises the heart rate and blood pressure), hypertension, severe arteriosclerosis and he was gasping for breath while he was in the back of a police unit.

 He was ruled to die of cardiopulmonary arrest with several issues that could have caused death…. BUT, the prosecution says to the jury to ignore all of that and determine that a single issue caused his death.

How do you prove beyond a reasonable doubt a cause of death when more than one factor could have caused it? 

There were trace amounts of fentanyl in his system. You watched it happen. Dude has his knee on his neck occluding blood flow to Flyod's brain hence causing him to die. He was not short of breath before the incident, if he were the knee to his neck exacerbated his condition. Chauvin got what was coming to him. You reap what you sow.

[BS Wildcats]

1 hour ago, Big girl said:

There were trace amounts of fentanyl in his system. You watched it happen. Dude has his knee on his neck occluding blood flow to Flyod's brain hence causing him to die. He was not short of breath before the incident, if he were the knee to his neck exacerbated his condition. Chauvin got what was coming to him. You reap what you sow.

Same can be said for Colin Kaepertwit.  He got what was coming to him, as well.  Your feelings toward Chauvin are strictly race related.

[Big girl]

On 11/26/2023 at 11:50 AM, BS Wildcats said:

Same can be said for Colin Kaepertwit.  He got what was coming to him, as well.  Your feelings toward Chauvin are strictly race related.

Yes., he did. He got millions from his Nike deal and from the NFL...And he never killed anyone. You are comparing apples to 🍊. Dude is a murderer

[BS Wildcats]

8 hours ago, Big girl said:

Yes., he did. He got millions from his Nike deal and from the NFL...And he never killed anyone. You are comparing apples to 🍊. Dude is a murderer

Whoosh

[thetragichippy]

On 11/26/2023 at 10:04 AM, Big girl said:

There were trace amounts of fentanyl in his system. You watched it happen. Dude has his knee on his neck occluding blood flow to Flyod's brain hence causing him to die. He was not short of breath before the incident, if he were the knee to his neck exacerbated his condition. Chauvin got what was coming to him. You reap what you sow.

Trace amounts? As a "nurse" please explain how 7 ng/ml or greater is associated with fatalities and Georgie had 11 ng/ml and that is "trace amounts"?  Take that level and add it to the other drugs in his system,........ 

The estimated lethal dose of fentanyl in humans is 2 mg. Blood concentrations of approximately 7 ng/ml or greater have been associated with fatalities where poly-substance use was involved.

 

 

VI. Toxicology (see attached report for full details; testing performed on antemortem blood specimens collected 5/25/20 at 9:00 p.m. at HHC and on postmortem urine) A. Blood drug and novel psychoactive substances screens:

1. Fentanyl 11 ng/mL

2. Norfentanyl 5.6 ng/mL

3. 4-ANPP 0.65 ng/mL

4. Methamphetamine 19 ng/mL

5. 11-Hydroxy Delta-9 THC 1.2 ng/mL; Delta-9 Carboxy THC 42 ng/mL; Delta-9 THC 2.9 ng/mL

6. Cotinine positive

7. Caffeine positive B. Blood volatiles: negative for ethanol, methanol, isopropanol, or acetone C. Urine drug screen: presumptive positive for cannabinoids, amphetamines, and fentanyl/metabolite D. Urine drug screen confirmation: morphine (free) 86 ng/mL

[BS Wildcats]

1 hour ago, thetragichippy said:

Trace amounts? As a "nurse" please explain how 7 ng/ml or greater is associated with fatalities and Georgie had 11 ng/ml and that is "trace amounts"?  Take that level and add it to the other drugs in his system,........ 

The estimated lethal dose of fentanyl in humans is 2 mg. Blood concentrations of approximately 7 ng/ml or greater have been associated with fatalities where poly-substance use was involved.

 

 

VI. Toxicology (see attached report for full details; testing performed on antemortem blood specimens collected 5/25/20 at 9:00 p.m. at HHC and on postmortem urine) A. Blood drug and novel psychoactive substances screens:

1. Fentanyl 11 ng/mL

2. Norfentanyl 5.6 ng/mL

3. 4-ANPP 0.65 ng/mL

4. Methamphetamine 19 ng/mL

5. 11-Hydroxy Delta-9 THC 1.2 ng/mL; Delta-9 Carboxy THC 42 ng/mL; Delta-9 THC 2.9 ng/mL

6. Cotinine positive

7. Caffeine positive B. Blood volatiles: negative for ethanol, methanol, isopropanol, or acetone C. Urine drug screen: presumptive positive for cannabinoids, amphetamines, and fentanyl/metabolite D. Urine drug screen confirmation: morphine (free) 86 ng/mL

You’ve hit her with facts.  Libs and Dems don’t work well with facts.

[Big girl]

8 hours ago, thetragichippy said:

Trace amounts? As a "nurse" please explain how 7 ng/ml or greater is associated with fatalities and Georgie had 11 ng/ml and that is "trace amounts"?  Take that level and add it to the other drugs in his system,........ 

The estimated lethal dose of fentanyl in humans is 2 mg. Blood concentrations of approximately 7 ng/ml or greater have been associated with fatalities where poly-substance use was involved.

 

 

VI. Toxicology (see attached report for full details; testing performed on antemortem blood specimens collected 5/25/20 at 9:00 p.m. at HHC and on postmortem urine) A. Blood drug and novel psychoactive substances screens:

1. Fentanyl 11 ng/mL

2. Norfentanyl 5.6 ng/mL

3. 4-ANPP 0.65 ng/mL

4. Methamphetamine 19 ng/mL

5. 11-Hydroxy Delta-9 THC 1.2 ng/mL; Delta-9 Carboxy THC 42 ng/mL; Delta-9 THC 2.9 ng/mL

6. Cotinine positive

7. Caffeine positive B. Blood volatiles: negative for ethanol, methanol, isopropanol, or acetone C. Urine drug screen: presumptive positive for cannabinoids, amphetamines, and fentanyl/metabolite D. Urine drug screen confirmation: morphine (free) 86 ng/mL

According to the coroner who is a md, he had trace amounts. If he had more he would've been in respiratory distress. If he was in respiratory distress why was he handcuffed, and why was Derek on his neck?

[LumRaiderFan]

11 minutes ago, Big girl said:

According to the coroner who is a md, he had trace amounts. If he had more he would've been in respiratory distress. If he was in respiratory distress why was he handcuffed, and why was Derek on his neck?

Mr. Floyd did strike me as someone that would be very responsible with his fentanyl use.

[5GallonBucket]

How hard is it to sit in a vehicle

ITS REAL EASY…..just comply.

[5GallonBucket]

Supposedly Former fbi informant is the one who stabbed him

[SmashMouth]

On 11/26/2023 at 10:04 AM, Big girl said:

There were trace amounts of fentanyl in his system. You watched it happen. Dude has his knee on his neck occluding blood flow to Flyod's brain hence causing him to die. He was not short of breath before the incident, if he were the knee to his neck exacerbated his condition. Chauvin got what was coming to him. You reap what you sow.

Whether Chauvin killed Floyd or not, he did not get “what was coming to him. You reap what you sow.” That is for the justice system and ultimately God to decide. 

[Big girl]

17 hours ago, LumRaiderFan said:

Mr. Floyd did strike me as someone that would be very responsible with his fentanyl use.

Trace amounts means most of it was metabolized 

[Big girl]

2 hours ago, SmashMouth said:

Whether Chauvin killed Floyd or not, he did not get “what was coming to him. You reap what you sow.” That is for the justice system and ultimately God to decide. 

This what a lot of people on this thread say when something happens to a black person

[Big girl]

15 hours ago, 5GallonBucket said:

How hard is it to sit in a vehicle

ITS REAL EASY…..just comply.

He was handcuffed. Why was dude on his neck? Oh well you guys saw what happened although you won't admit it or you all are incredibly stupid. Chauvin was stabbed 22 times

[SmashMouth]

20 minutes ago, Big girl said:

This what a lot of people on this thread say when something happens to a black person

Not me. Even though George Floyd was a pos, I never said he should be killed. He was black too. 

[SmashMouth]

32 minutes ago, Big girl said:

This what a lot of people on this thread say when something happens to a black person

Does that make vigilante justice justified?

[5GallonBucket]

1 hour ago, Big girl said:

He was handcuffed. Why was dude on his neck? Oh well you guys saw what happened although you won't admit it or you all are incredibly stupid. Chauvin was stabbed 22 times

 

1 hour ago, SmashMouth said:

Not me. Even though George Floyd was a pos, I never said he should be killed. He was black too. 

This

[baddog]

1 hour ago, Big girl said:

He was handcuffed. Why was dude on his neck? Oh well you guys saw what happened although you won't admit it or you all are incredibly stupid. Chauvin was stabbed 22 times

Who stabbed him?

[Big girl]

3 hours ago, baddog said:

Who stabbed him?

Duh, a fellow inmate

[baddog]

2 hours ago, Big girl said:

Duh, a fellow inmate

Duh, I knew that. Do you know anymore about him than that, or do you concentrate only on the “trace” amounts in a person you don’t know’s blood stream during an autopsy? There’s the DUH moment.

[Big girl]

20 hours ago, baddog said:

Duh, I knew that. Do you know anymore about him than that, or do you concentrate only on the “trace” amounts in a person you don’t know’s blood stream during an autopsy? There’s the DUH moment.

You are dumber than I thought. Smh