2024 WOS Mustangs

[BBfan061]

8 hours ago, Stangfan#1 said:

Mustangs looking more better then last year but our WRs have to catch the ball defense looking better they had 2 turnovers tonight one for an interception and an fumble turn over had a couple of big hits to as well offense line needs a little more work I think if they fix these problems they have Mustangs will be alright defense was flying to the ball tonight they had 2 touchdowns call back but hay it is what it is Mustangs will be fine this year and I'm going to agree with AggiesAreWe they going to finish in 2 place in district 

Good news is I think this district will sweep their Bi district foes… 2nd place in district will give you the winner of the La Vega, China Spring, Lorena district (Barring upsets of course) in the second rounds and 3rd most likely gets Bellville. Long ways away I know and a ton of ball to be played but just something to discuss as the season goes! Glad the Stangs looked improved even if it was just a scrimmage vs Lumberton… You can still see things you like and improvements even if the other team isn’t that great. The Stangs have had a rough past couple years and even though they were bouncing us from the playoffs before that I hope they have a good season and improve!

[SmashMouth]

Glad to hear there were lots of positives for the Mustangs. Kinda worried about the Raiders. They lost a lot from last year. This would've been a much different scrimmage a year ago. All in all though, it's still early.

[WOSdrummer99]

My fault for putting the scrimmage talk here. But this is WOS topic. I merged those posts with @RaiderGirl22's L Town Raiders here...

 

 

Edited August 16 by WOSdrummer99
Merged Lumberton posts

[ladybug33]

21 hours ago, wo-s#1 said:

As for WOS I believe now after tonight we’ll be better…energy/moral is wayyy up from the last couple years…Defense flying around,4 plus guys on every tackle! Should be a fun season with lots of opportunities for the players.

Really good to hear this news about the Mustangs playing good in the scrimmage game last night.

[WOSdrummer99]

Well Mustang fans it's time for my annual end of season rant. I've had so much company up here on the soapbox that I may have to start charging rent. After 3 years I don't think anything needs to be said. We all know what's wrong. We all know why. So what's the decision at the next board meeting?

IMO, there's been enough imaginary success for the board to rubber stamp the Superintendent's vision for our future student athletes.

#make every second count

Due to soft scheduling and a weaker than normal district. The luck of knocking off 2 ranked opponents early when they were not healthy or still trying to figure it out. Also led to a premature ranking and a hollow DCTF weekly award. The 2 late season losses vs ranked teams proves what we know has been the biggest problem. 

Football 19-15 .559

Baseball 9-35 .205

Basketball 19-35 .352

GBB 11-29 .275

Softball 1-22 .043

Volleyball 0-38 .000

Overall 59-174 .253

 

For anyone living in the district, I ask that you contact you're elected board members publicly and privately. Don't let them think this is exceptable. Be the solution to the equation. Not the divisor. This starts at the top and falls heavily upon those walking the halls. They deserve better.

[dj]

24 minutes ago, WOSdrummer99 said:

Well Mustang fans it's time for my annual end of season rant. I've had so much company up here on the soapbox that I may have to start charging rent. After 3 years I don't think anything needs to be said. We all know what's wrong. We all know why. So what's the decision at the next board meeting?

IMO, there's been enough imaginary success for the board to rubber stamp the Superintendent's vision for our future student athletes.

#make every second count

Due to soft scheduling and a weaker than normal district. The luck of knocking off 2 ranked opponents early when they were not healthy or still trying to figure it out. Also led to a premature ranking and a hollow DCTF weekly award. The 2 late season losses vs ranked teams proves what we know has been the biggest problem. 

Football 19-15 .559

Baseball 9-35 .205

Basketball 19-35 .352

GBB 11-29 .275

Softball 1-22 .043

Volleyball 0-38 .000

Overall 59-174 .253

 

For anyone living in the district, I ask that you contact you're elected board members publicly and privately. Don't let them think this is exceptable. Be the solution to the equation. Not the divisor. This starts at the top and falls heavily upon those walking the halls. They deserve better.

Wow powerful words !!

[marshman]

I don’t realize the overall athletic program was that bad. I knew baseball and softball has been really poor, but volleyball? 0-38? Dang!

[Gasilla]

6 hours ago, WOSdrummer99 said:

Well Mustang fans it's time for my annual end of season rant. I've had so much company up here on the soapbox that I may have to start charging rent. After 3 years I don't think anything needs to be said. We all know what's wrong. We all know why. So what's the decision at the next board meeting?

IMO, there's been enough imaginary success for the board to rubber stamp the Superintendent's vision for our future student athletes.

#make every second count

Due to soft scheduling and a weaker than normal district. The luck of knocking off 2 ranked opponents early when they were not healthy or still trying to figure it out. Also led to a premature ranking and a hollow DCTF weekly award. The 2 late season losses vs ranked teams proves what we know has been the biggest problem. 

Football 19-15 .559

Baseball 9-35 .205

Basketball 19-35 .352

GBB 11-29 .275

Softball 1-22 .043

Volleyball 0-38 .000

Overall 59-174 .253

 

For anyone living in the district, I ask that you contact you're elected board members publicly and privately. Don't let them think this is exceptable. Be the solution to the equation. Not the divisor. This starts at the top and falls heavily upon those walking the halls. They deserve better.

Unacceptable! 

[AggiesAreWe]

6 hours ago, WOSdrummer99 said:

Well Mustang fans it's time for my annual end of season rant. I've had so much company up here on the soapbox that I may have to start charging rent. After 3 years I don't think anything needs to be said. We all know what's wrong. We all know why. So what's the decision at the next board meeting?

IMO, there's been enough imaginary success for the board to rubber stamp the Superintendent's vision for our future student athletes.

#make every second count

Due to soft scheduling and a weaker than normal district. The luck of knocking off 2 ranked opponents early when they were not healthy or still trying to figure it out. Also led to a premature ranking and a hollow DCTF weekly award. The 2 late season losses vs ranked teams proves what we know has been the biggest problem. 

Football 19-15 .559

Baseball 9-35 .205

Basketball 19-35 .352

GBB 11-29 .275

Softball 1-22 .043

Volleyball 0-38 .000

Overall 59-174 .253

 

For anyone living in the district, I ask that you contact you're elected board members publicly and privately. Don't let them think this is exceptable. Be the solution to the equation. Not the divisor. This starts at the top and falls heavily upon those walking the halls. They deserve better.

As most on here know I am all about the numbers. Nothing good about those numbers, particularly the girls sports. 12-89???

Most want to point at the coaching aspect of these numbers (and rightly so). But those numbers also scream lack of talent.

I watch a lot of football and basketball (more basketball than anything) over the last several years and some baseball and softball. (no volleyball). Personally IMO, I have seen a drop in talent at WO-S across the board. I also talk with lot's of area coaches (multiple sports) and many say the same thing about WO-S athletics. The talent has dropped.

Now it ain't all about the athletes though. It's also a fact the experience level on the athletic staff at WO-S is not nearly experienced as it once was. I am talking all sports, not just football. That has a lot to do with the lack of success as well.

The real question is, why are there not highly experienced coaches at WO-S? I think most have an idea as to why but I think it's more than just that. 

I think football is getting better. Boys basketball has had it's moments over the last couple years as well. But the other sports are certainly struggling, to say the least.

[WO-S 89]

17 minutes ago, AggiesAreWe said:

As most on here know I am all about the numbers. Nothing good about those numbers, particularly the girls sports. 12-89???

Most want to point at the coaching aspect of these numbers (and rightly so). But those numbers also scream lack of talent.

I watch a lot of football and basketball (more basketball than anything) over the last several years and some baseball and softball. (no volleyball). Personally IMO, I have seen a drop in talent at WO-S across the board. I also talk with lot's of area coaches (multiple sports) and many say the same thing about WO-S athletics. The talent has dropped.

Now it ain't all about the athletes though. It's also a fact the experience level on the athletic staff at WO-S is not nearly experienced as it once was. I am talking all sports, not just football. That has a lot to do with the lack of success as well.

The real question is, why are there not highly experienced coaches at WO-S? I think most have an idea as to why but I think it's more than just that. 

I think football is getting better. Boys basketball has had its moments over the last couple years as well. But the other sports are certainly struggling, to say the least.

A drop in talent in football is crazy to say. I guess Cornel knew the talent was drying up so he retired.  Thats just stupid to think that.  

[Who That]

4 minutes ago, WO-S 89 said:

A drop in talent in football is crazy to say. I guess Cornel knew the talent was drying up so he retired.  Thats just stupid to think that.  

He didn't say that..! 🤦🏻‍♂️

[AggiesAreWe]

3 minutes ago, WO-S 89 said:

A drop in talent in football is crazy to say. I guess Cornel knew the talent was drying up so he retired.  Thats just stupid to think that.  

I am not saying there is no talent, just not as much these last few years,

From my eye, I honestly believe there has been a drop. Nothing astronomical, but still a drop. Have had others tell me the same.

[WO-S 89]

1 minute ago, Who That said:

He didn't say that..! 🤦🏻‍♂️

Talent across the board has dropped.  That means football too 

[WO-S 89]

3 minutes ago, AggiesAreWe said:

I am not saying there is no talent, just not as much these last few years,

From my eye, I honestly believe there has been a drop. Nothing astronomical, but still a drop. Have had others tell me the same.

Ok, has anybody mention we have had a big drop off in coaching or is it just players 

[WO-S 89]

It’s funny for 44 years Hooks and Thompson never had a drop off in talent. 

[AggiesAreWe]

Just now, WO-S 89 said:

Ok, has anybody mention we have had a big drop off in coaching?  

If you are talking football, then yes. But keep it in perspective. You had two Hall of Fame coaches prior to now. Most would expect a drop.

The fact is WO-S has been spoiled with having two HOF coaches over a 45 year period. Also a very experienced coaching staff over those years, That is something that many many schools dream of.

Welcome to the real world. lol

[AggiesAreWe]

3 minutes ago, WO-S 89 said:

It’s funny for 44 years Hooks and Thompson never had a drop off in talent. 

Most of those years they had a 1200 enrollment or more.

Now under 700.

Just those numbers say a loss of some talent.

[WO-S 89]

1 minute ago, AggiesAreWe said:

If you are talking football, then yes. But keep it in perspective. You had two Hall of Fame coaches prior to now. Most would expect a drop.

The fact is WO-S has been spoiled with having two HOF coaches over a 45 year period. Also a very experienced coaching staff over those years, That is something that many many schools dream of.

Welcome to the real world. lol

Ok I agree with u on that but if T would have never left we would not be talking about talent is not there.  

[WO-S 89]

4 minutes ago, AggiesAreWe said:

Most of those years they had a 1200 enrollment or more.

Now under 700.

Just those numbers say a loss of some talent.

Ok but we are playing school with about same enrollment now.   We are not still playing teams with 1200 plus 

[AggiesAreWe]

5 minutes ago, WO-S 89 said:

Ok but we are playing school with about same enrollment now.   We are not still playing teams with 1200 plus 

Solid point

[WO-S 89]

7 minutes ago, AggiesAreWe said:

Solid point

All I’m saying is the downward spiral started 3 years ago and the talent is still there in 4a 

[wo-s#1]

1 hour ago, AggiesAreWe said:

As most on here know I am all about the numbers. Nothing good about those numbers, particularly the girls sports. 12-89???

Most want to point at the coaching aspect of these numbers (and rightly so). But those numbers also scream lack of talent.

I watch a lot of football and basketball (more basketball than anything) over the last several years and some baseball and softball. (no volleyball). Personally IMO, I have seen a drop in talent at WO-S across the board. I also talk with lot's of area coaches (multiple sports) and many say the same thing about WO-S athletics. The talent has dropped.

Now it ain't all about the athletes though. It's also a fact the experience level on the athletic staff at WO-S is not nearly experienced as it once was. I am talking all sports, not just football. That has a lot to do with the lack of success as well.

The real question is, why are there not highly experienced coaches at WO-S? I think most have an idea as to why but I think it's more than just that. 

I think football is getting better. Boys basketball has had it's moments over the last couple years as well. But the other sports are certainly struggling, to say the least.

The baseball coach has a ton of experience at high school and college level and hasn’t done anything for I think around 7 years now,it’s just something that the higher ups live with.And there has been talent come through that he hasn’t done anything with!

[BADSANTA]

West Orange Stark has been a powerhouse since I csn remember. At some point, your bound to fall off to some degree. Alabama has 3 or 4 loses this season. Who would have thought? Has Orange lost kids to LCM or even Orangefield?

[XX Man]

10 hours ago, WOSdrummer99 said:

Well Mustang fans it's time for my annual end of season rant. I've had so much company up here on the soapbox that I may have to start charging rent. After 3 years I don't think anything needs to be said. We all know what's wrong. We all know why. So what's the decision at the next board meeting?

IMO, there's been enough imaginary success for the board to rubber stamp the Superintendent's vision for our future student athletes.

#make every second count

Due to soft scheduling and a weaker than normal district. The luck of knocking off 2 ranked opponents early when they were not healthy or still trying to figure it out. Also led to a premature ranking and a hollow DCTF weekly award. The 2 late season losses vs ranked teams proves what we know has been the biggest problem. 

Football 19-15 .559

Baseball 9-35 .205

Basketball 19-35 .352

GBB 11-29 .275

Softball 1-22 .043

Volleyball 0-38 .000

Overall 59-174 .253

 

For anyone living in the district, I ask that you contact you're elected board members publicly and privately. Don't let them think this is exceptable. Be the solution to the equation. Not the divisor. This starts at the top and falls heavily upon those walking the halls. They deserve better.

I've been to several School Board meeting complaining about Harris and his AD pick. BOTH of them need replaced. Harris has been told his contract will not be renewed but they allow him to continue as a Lame Duck Superintendent. The grades are pathetic and the coaching is pathetic. I urge each one of your to go to the School Board meetings and sound off. And VOTE FOR School Board members who support hiring a real Superintendent and Athletic Director. Harris and Hickman need to go right now. The School Board President  Linda Platt, needs voted OUT.

 

[XX Man]

3 hours ago, AggiesAreWe said:

If you are talking football, then yes. But keep it in perspective. You had two Hall of Fame coaches prior to now. Most would expect a drop.

The fact is WO-S has been spoiled with having two HOF coaches over a 45 year period. Also a very experienced coaching staff over those years, That is something that many many schools dream of.

Welcome to the real world. lol

Yes, we had 2 exceptional ADs that put together a winning program and a winning coaching staff. When Hickman took over, he demoted or ran off all the experienced coaches and threw out the program that worked.