2024 WOS Mustangs

[WOSdrummer99]

26 minutes ago, SmashMouth said:

One of my favorite songs, but I’m not sure of the relevance. Maybe I’m having a pre-senior moment.

It's not cryptic message unless you play it backwards. Right place, WRONG time

[wo-s#1]

2 hours ago, WOSdrummer99 said:

Chapter 40

I’ve read it and just read it again for a refresher…makes me think somebody had nothing but failure in their intentions 

[WOSdrummer99]

37 minutes ago, wo-s#1 said:

I’ve read it and just read it again for a refresher…makes me think somebody had nothing but failure in their intentions 

I don't think anyone on the sideline had the intentions to fail. I do think the man behind the curtain played us all. And the board went right along with it because the back to back HOF coachs made it seem so easy a caveman could do it. There's a difference between confidence and arrogance. Confidence is a bullfighter going in the ring with steak sauce on his sword. Arrogance is thinking the kids athletic abilities carried the coaches. Then blaming a drop in talent for the losing seasons.

One was overheard saying the coaches are too smart for the kids. And they can't learn the new system. 

Edited Tuesday at 04:43 AM by WOSdrummer99

[SmashMouth]

2 hours ago, WOSdrummer99 said:

It's not cryptic message unless you play it backwards. Right place, WRONG time

👍 Oh. I was thinking most thought Wrong Place Wrong Time. Lol. 

[setxathlete14]

1 thing for certain. Coach Earned 3 more years to figure it out lol

[wo-s#1]

3 hours ago, setxathlete14 said:

1 thing for certain. Coach Earned 3 more years to figure it out lol

Probably even a nice raise 

[WOSdrummer99]

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[Tiger33]

4 hours ago, WOSdrummer99 said:

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I read chapter 40. 

[CardinalBacker]

Y’all had it good for a long time… it’s pretty clear to see that it’s over. West Orange isn’t some blessed zip code that’s always going to win… y’all just had lighting in a bottle for a long time. 
 

HH isn’t a bad coach, he’s just not as good as your last two. Very, very few are. The question is whether or not y’all can attract another HOF caliber coach to bring the program back to dominance-which isn’t guaranteed. 
 

I think the future involves y’all mixing it up for DCs in some years, making the playoffs  most, then eventually dropping to 3A D1 and having more success down there. 
 

No Thanksgiving practices in your future, though. At this point the chain is broken. There are no kids left who have any time under that level of coaching. I just don’t see things getting better. 
 

 

[marshman]

Been said before but you’d think with a program that WOS has had the last 4 decades, the history and traditions it has, it would have attracted a few high caliber quality coaches from strong programs.  That didn’t happen. Which leads me to believe it’s small town politics mainly with the school board that kept any from applying.  Schools like Gilmer, Southlake Carroll, Celina, Austin Westlake and others can have a new HC step in and keep the train rolling pretty much without missing a beat. 

[Tiger33]

52 minutes ago, CardinalBacker said:

Y’all had it good for a long time… it’s pretty clear to see that it’s over. West Orange isn’t some blessed zip code that’s always going to win… y’all just had lighting in a bottle for a long time. 
 

HH isn’t a bad coach, he’s just not as good as your last two. Very, very few are. The question is whether or not y’all can attract another HOF caliber coach to bring the program back to dominance-which isn’t guaranteed. 
 

I think the future involves y’all mixing it up for DCs in some years, making the playoffs  most, then eventually dropping to 3A D1 and having more success down there. 
 

No Thanksgiving practices in your future, though. At this point the chain is broken. There are no kids left who have any time under that level of coaching. I just don’t see things getting better. 
 

 

Tales of two coaches. Hickman and Smith applied for the Silsbee job. Coach smith in his first three years at Silsbee went 23-15. Smith overall is 78-34. In Smith’s  third year he  brought Silsbee to state semi finals. Smith is 10-3 in the playoffs. Hickman 19-15, 1-3 in the playoffs in three years and went farthest to the  area round. Do you think Hickman would have brought Silsbee to the State Semi finals in silsbee 3rd season? WOS has athletes and probably have better athlete's than Silsbee. But the lack of discipline and coaching strategy is apparent.    

[AggiesAreWe]

4 minutes ago, Tiger33 said:

Tales of two coaches. Hickman and Smith applied for the Silsbee job. Coach smith in his first three years at Silsbee went 23-15. Smith overall is 78-34. In Smith’s  third year he  brought Silsbee to state semi finals. Smith is 10-3 in the playoffs. Hickman 19-15, 1-3 in the playoffs in three years and went farthest to the  area round. Do you think Hickman would have brought Silsbee to the State Semi finals in silsbee 3rd season? WOS has athletes and probably have better athlete's than Silsbee. But the lack of discipline and coaching strategy is apparent.    

Smith is 78-31 overall and 18-8 in the playoffs.

His first three years he went 23-15 overall and 6-3 in playoffs.

His Silsbee teams are averaging making 3rd round every year in his 9 years as head coach.

[Tiger33]

41 minutes ago, AggiesAreWe said:

Smith is 78-31 overall and 18-8 in the playoffs.

His first three years he went 23-15 overall and 6-3 in playoffs.

His Silsbee teams are averaging making 3rd round every year in his 9 years as head coach.

Sorry sir on my miss count. I was in hurry

[WOSdrummer99]

4 hours ago, Tiger33 said:

Tales of two coaches. Hickman and Smith applied for the Silsbee job. Coach smith in his first three years at Silsbee went 23-15. Smith overall is 78-34. In Smith’s  third year he  brought Silsbee to state semi finals. Smith is 10-3 in the playoffs. Hickman 19-15, 1-3 in the playoffs in three years and went farthest to the  area round. Do you think Hickman would have brought Silsbee to the State Semi finals in silsbee 3rd season? WOS has athletes and probably have better athlete's than Silsbee. But the lack of discipline and coaching strategy is apparent.    

Shame he couldn't stay. Was that Smiths first job as AD/HFC? 

[AggiesAreWe]

7 minutes ago, WOSdrummer99 said:

Shame he couldn't stay. Was that Smiths first job as AD/HFC? 

Yes. He was the OC at Cypress Springs.

Also, Smith doesn't get enough credit as an AD. Silsbee is very competitive in all their sports (not just basketball).

[WOSdrummer99]

2 hours ago, AggiesAreWe said:

Yes. He was the OC at ...

Also, Smith doesn't get enough credit as an AD. Silsbee is very competitive in all their sports (not just basketball).

Deleted... Sometimes it's just the right fit. I've seen it at other local schools for years and recently too. Some schools have figured out the hiring process and some just get what they can.

We narrowed the field in favor of the latter. Then lowered the job requirements to fit the candidate. In the best interest of the students I assume. We have such high standards here. This has magnified a much larger problem that has doomed the district as a whole for too long.

Edited 21 hours ago by WOSdrummer99

[Tiger33]

1 hour ago, AggiesAreWe said:

Yes. He was the OC at Cypress Springs.

Also, Smith doesn't get enough credit as an AD. Silsbee is very competitive in all their sports (not just basketball).

It was Cypress Ranch. He was the coordinator when the lost to Allen in the state champion ship

[Tiger33]

38 minutes ago, WOSdrummer99 said:

I see they were 3-7 at Cy springs the 3 previous years. So not really major success there. Sometimes it's just the right fit. I've seen it at other local schools for years and recently too. Some schools have figured out the hiring process and some just get what they can.

We narrowed the field in favor of the latter. Then lowered the job requirements to fit the candidate. In the best interest of the students I assume. We have such high standards here. This has magnified a much larger problem that has doomed the district as a whole for too long.

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[AggiesAreWe]

21 minutes ago, Tiger33 said:

It was Cypress Ranch. He was the coordinator when the lost to Allen in the state champion ship

Correct. Cy Ranch.

All those Cypress schools run together. lol

[Tiger33]

5 minutes ago, AggiesAreWe said:

Correct. Cy Ranch.

All those Cypress schools run together. lol

I cant be wrong all  the time lol. But be had success there. 

[WOSdrummer99]

1 hour ago, Tiger33 said:

It was Cypress Ranch. He was the coordinator when the lost to Allen in the state champion ship

Thanks for the correction. That makes big a difference 

[Tiger33]

44 minutes ago, WOSdrummer99 said:

Thanks for the correction. That makes big a difference 

Silsbee had 68 applications and WOS under 20. There something wrong with that

[WOSdrummer99]

4 hours ago, Tiger33 said:

Silsbee had 68 applications and WOS under 20. There something wrong with that

Toxic situation and some already knew the coach in waiting had been named. Well HH definitely knew and was telling friends all about it. Also I was told that not posting the job opening on the THSCA was a major sign for most that would've been interested. District website only usually a sign that they have their man in mind and don't want to waste anyone's time. I'd say they've wasted 3 years of the kids time that can't be returned. Now how many more students have to transfer to LCM before we fix it. It's definitely not in a state of disrepair yet. Only disrespect.

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[skipmeister]

I am friends on Facebook with one of the coaches (I've known him for many years) with the Mustangs and according to his wife's Facebook post on Thanksgiving (he was tagged in her post) that the 2024 season will be his last coaching. He is likely going to pursue other opportunities outside of coaching. I refuse to disclose that coach's name due to privacy reasons.

[wo-s#1]

16 minutes ago, skipmeister said:

I am friends on Facebook with one of the coaches (I've known him for many years) with the Mustangs and according to his wife's Facebook post on Thanksgiving (he was tagged in her post) that the 2024 season will be his last coaching. He is likely going to pursue other opportunities outside of coaching. I refuse to disclose that coach's name due to privacy reasons.

Been here a while or part of the new regime