**COACHING CAROUSEL**

[Goslin]

17 hours ago, Mr. Buddy Garrity said:

He's a sophomore correct??

So looking into this a little bit further, Sterling’s DC left last week for the HFC job in Danbury.  Toomer quit shortly afterwards and no one knew about Toomer until after the Board meeting where they accepted his resignation.  Sterling’s OC & QB Coach, Coach Launius, is still there and I’m guessing is gonna be interim HFC until GCCISD can hire Toomer’s replacement.  I imagine he’s scrambling to keep what talent they’ve got and QB1 would be top priority for him.  So we’ll see…

 

[Eagle11]

On 2/20/2025 at 11:51 PM, Coach_Izzy said:

Either way it ain’t enough to compete at the 5A/6A level! Make one big brand new school hire a good HC (it’s plenty in that area) and you’ll retain those kids.

That is what should have been done when they built GCM. BUT there were too many folks that still felt they had to have Lee high school. I went to Lee and loved my time there but if Baytown would have done a freshman, soph. school and a jr/sr school like a lot of people wanted they could be competitive across the board. The superintendent at the time (Sultis) squashed this. I loved her dad (Mr. Pete) but her not so much. Now they have 3 schools that just can't compete and it is sad. 

[Goslin]

52 minutes ago, Eagle11 said:

That is what should have been done when they built GCM. BUT there were too many folks that still felt they had to have Lee high school. I went to Lee and loved my time there but if Baytown would have done a freshman, soph. school and a jr/sr school like a lot of people wanted they could be competitive across the board. The superintendent at the time (Sultis) squashed this. I loved her dad (Mr. Pete) but her not so much. Now they have 3 schools that just can't compete and it is sad. 

REL still holds their own, Finn’s 37-33 in his time there so far.  Folks don’t seem to realize that.  

GCCISD will end up consolidating the High Schools, but we’re still years away from it.  First off, they have to get a Bond passed to rebuild RSS.  After that, and after the rebuild, then they’ll pitch the consolidation as a cost-saving measure.  It’s probably 5-10 years away.

Thats the only way it’ll ever get done.  The Board telling voters that there’s no choice left but to consolidate due to budget woes.  GCCISD is headed into year 3 of budget cuts for 25-26 and are already saying that 26-27 will be a 4th year of cuts with no relief on the horizon.

Until then there’s not much for the 3 football programs in Baytown to do but play the cards they’re dealt.  REL does pretty well considering.  With a former REL OC running the show at GCM maybe they’ll find a way to get 2-3 wins next season or maybe not but we’ll see.  RSS has a good possible interim HFC in Coach Launius, hopefully they can find a way to at least tread water this season.  After that, UIL redraws Districts again and 9-5A-1 might get a little easier for them.

One more thing.  When folks talk about too many folks wanting to keep REL, I think they mistake why that is.  I think folks assume things about other folks without walking a mile in their shoes.  REL over the last few years has been the High School with the highest test scores and lowest number of fights.  6 of the Seniors on the football team made Academic All-State Honorable Mention this school year.  None from RSS or GCM.  Folks in Old Baytown, (and I actually live there so I know), don’t want to send our kids to RSS where the foundation of the building is crumbling or all the way out to GCM where it’s extremely overcrowded and a total mess as a result.  REL is where we prefer to send our kids.

[1989NDN]

1 hour ago, Goslin said:

One more thing.  When folks talk about too many folks wanting to keep REL, I think they mistake why that is.  I think folks assume things about other folks without walking a mile in their shoes.  REL over the last few years has been the High School with the highest test scores and lowest number of fights.  6 of the Seniors on the football team made Academic All-State Honorable Mention this school year.  None from RSS or GCM.  Folks in Old Baytown, (and I actually live there so I know), don’t want to send our kids to RSS where the foundation of the building is crumbling or all the way out to GCM where it’s extremely overcrowded and a total mess as a result.  REL is where we prefer to send our kids.

Well said.

[Eagle11]

1 hour ago, Goslin said:

REL still holds their own, Finn’s 37-33 in his time there so far.  Folks don’t seem to realize that.  

GCCISD will end up consolidating the High Schools, but we’re still years away from it.  First off, they have to get a Bond passed to rebuild RSS.  After that, and after the rebuild, then they’ll pitch the consolidation as a cost-saving measure.  It’s probably 5-10 years away.

Thats the only way it’ll ever get done.  The Board telling voters that there’s no choice left but to consolidate due to budget woes.  GCCISD is headed into year 3 of budget cuts for 25-26 and are already saying that 26-27 will be a 4th year of cuts with no relief on the horizon.

Until then there’s not much for the 3 football programs in Baytown to do but play the cards they’re dealt.  REL does pretty well considering.  With a former REL OC running the show at GCM maybe they’ll find a way to get 2-3 wins next season or maybe not but we’ll see.  RSS has a good possible interim HFC in Coach Launius, hopefully they can find a way to at least tread water this season.  After that, UIL redraws Districts again and 9-5A-1 might get a little easier for them.

One more thing.  When folks talk about too many folks wanting to keep REL, I think they mistake why that is.  I think folks assume things about other folks without walking a mile in their shoes.  REL over the last few years has been the High School with the highest test scores and lowest number of fights.  6 of the Seniors on the football team made Academic All-State Honorable Mention this school year.  None from RSS or GCM.  Folks in Old Baytown, (and I actually live there so I know), don’t want to send our kids to RSS where the foundation of the building is crumbling or all the way out to GCM where it’s extremely overcrowded and a total mess as a result.  REL is where we prefer to send our kids.

I am not downing REL in any way. Like I said, I went there, my parents went there. I guess my point was they had a golden opportunity years ago and did not take advantage of it.

[Goslin]

47 minutes ago, Eagle11 said:

I am not downing REL in any way. Like I said, I went there, my parents went there. I guess my point was they had a golden opportunity years ago and did not take advantage of it.

As I said in my prior comment, I do believe the opportunity to consolidate will arise again in the next 5-10 years and GCCISD will ram the change through.  Their budget woes have to get bad enough where they can present the situation to taxpayers as “We have no other choice…”.

[Eagle11]

Agreed, I just wish Sultis had not been so short sighted years ago. 

[Goslin]

57 minutes ago, Eagle11 said:

Agreed, I just wish Sultis had not been so short sighted years ago. 

What killed the Consolidation idea years ago was that GCCISD went about the whole thing the wrong way.  They had District employees hopping onto Social Media accounts and being extremely dismissive and downright nasty to anyone who was unsure of the idea.  All that did was galvanize the opposition and drive all the fence-sitters right into the opposition’s open arms.  

Before they even begin to talk about Consolidation, they’ve got to build the new Senior High School where RSS now sits.  They need to pass a Bond to do that and have failed in their last 2 attempts.  After that, they go to the public and say “We’re broke, and we have to Consolidate the High Schools to stay afloat.”  Don’t create a “maybe” situation, and for damn sure keep your employees from hopping online in their off-time to gloat about REL’s demise and end up riling up opposition to it.  If they do it that way, and I think that’s their plan, they’ll probably have it done in the next 5-10 years.

I love REL too.  My whole family went there.  My wife’s whole family went there.  I met my wife there.  Our kids will go there.  With all that said, Consolidation makes sense, will eventually happen, and most folks realize this.  Until then, though, REL is still Old Baytown’s school and we’re proud of it!

[Eagle11]

52 minutes ago, Goslin said:

What killed the Consolidation idea years ago was that GCCISD went about the whole thing the wrong way.  They had District employees hopping onto Social Media accounts and being extremely dismissive and downright nasty to anyone who was unsure of the idea.  All that did was galvanize the opposition and drive all the fence-sitters right into the opposition’s open arms.  

Before they even begin to talk about Consolidation, they’ve got to build the new Senior High School where RSS now sits.  They need to pass a Bond to do that and have failed in their last 2 attempts.  After that, they go to the public and say “We’re broke, and we have to Consolidate the High Schools to stay afloat.”  Don’t create a “maybe” situation, and for damn sure keep your employees from hopping online in their off-time to gloat about REL’s demise and end up riling up opposition to it.  If they do it that way, and I think that’s their plan, they’ll probably have it done in the next 5-10 years.

I love REL too.  My whole family went there.  My wife’s whole family went there.  I met my wife there.  Our kids will go there.  With all that said, Consolidation makes sense, will eventually happen, and most folks realize this.  Until then, though, REL is still Old Baytown’s school and we’re proud of it!

What year did you graduate Goslin?

[gary-us-bonds]

Slow down now.

We claim Lee in Pelly. OBT can share it I guess.

[Goslin]

1 hour ago, Eagle11 said:

What year did you graduate Goslin?

Now, if I were to answer that question, it might make it easier to reveal my identity and I’d rather just remain anonymous seeing as how I speak my mind on here and a lot of folks don’t exactly like what I have to say.  I know that wasn’t your intention.  I’ll say that I was at REL back when they were a powerhouse, and that’s about as close as I’ll go with it.

1 hour ago, gary-us-bonds said:

Slow down now.

We claim Lee in Pelly. OBT can share it I guess.

I was using the term “Old Baytown” the way the youngsters these days do.  They don’t know about the old rivalries between the folks who live in the State Streets, the fancy folks in Old Goose Creek, and the Pelly Rats.  Funny fact, when REL was built in 1928 it was discovered after its construction that it sat just across the line in Pelly City Limits.  Many of the street names in Pelly were changed after WW2 and before consolidation, named after Pelly residents who died in WW2.  Their names are also on the plaque at REL’s Memorial Field in honor of all the REL graduates that died in WW2.  The plaque used to be on the flagpole but after the remodel where they renamed it after Pete Sultis they moved the plaque to the entrance.  There’s around 70 names on that plaque.  Lot of history there.

 

[Eagle11]

1 hour ago, Goslin said:

Now, if I were to answer that question, it might make it easier to reveal my identity and I’d rather just remain anonymous seeing as how I speak my mind on here and a lot of folks don’t exactly like what I have to say.  I know that wasn’t your intention.  I’ll say that I was at REL back when they were a powerhouse, and that’s about as close as I’ll go with it.

I was using the term “Old Baytown” the way the youngsters these days do.  They don’t know about the old rivalries between the folks who live in the State Streets, the fancy folks in Old Goose Creek, and the Pelly Rats.  Funny fact, when REL was built in 1928 it was discovered after its construction that it sat just across the line in Pelly City Limits.  Many of the street names in Pelly were changed after WW2 and before consolidation, named after Pelly residents who died in WW2.  Their names are also on the plaque at REL’s Memorial Field in honor of all the REL graduates that died in WW2.  The plaque used to be on the flagpole but after the remodel where they renamed it after Pete Sultis they moved the plaque to the entrance.  There’s around 70 names on that plaque.  Lot of history there.

 

No problem.........I was there when we beat powerhouse LaPorte in the dome. I remember LaPorte's offense sitting in the stands before warmups eating hotdogs. That being said, that was the best backfield in high school I have ever seen. They all signed with OU if I remember correctly.

[OlDawg]

1 hour ago, Eagle11 said:

No problem.........I was there when we beat powerhouse LaPorte in the dome. I remember LaPorte's offense sitting in the stands before warmups eating hotdogs. That being said, that was the best backfield in high school I have ever seen. They all signed with OU if I remember correctly.

29-28. At the end of the game. LP led 28-0 at half. Somehow, Lee wasn’t called for a single penalty in the 2nd half, and we were called for at least 2 every series.

Lot of upset people after that one. Those refs never officiated again. The game was protested. But, UIL didn’t hear in time. Lee lost the next game. Memorial I think it was…

That was the only game we lost that year. Beat Stratford, PA Jefferson, & some other really good teams.

Remember it well. I was a Soph.

Byars and Walker went to OU. Don’t remember Whitmore going.

(I think Goslin is a play on Olin. 😉😜)

[gary-us-bonds]

1 hour ago, OlDawg said:

29-28. At the end of the game. LP led 28-0 at half. Somehow, Lee wasn’t called for a single penalty in the 2nd half, and we were called for at least 2 every series.

Lot of upset people after that one. Those refs never officiated again. The game was protested. But, UIL didn’t hear in time. Lee lost the next game. Memorial I think it was…

That was the only game we lost that year. Beat Stratford, PA Jefferson, & some other really good teams.

Remember it well. I was a Soph.

Byars and Walker went to OU. Don’t remember Whitmore going.

(I think Goslin is a play on Olin. 😉😜)

28 to 14 at the half.

Bubba Hill was the other running back.

Goslin is what Baytown junior and Horace Mann junior mascots were. Red goslins and green goslins. A gosling is a young goose. A Gander is a male goose, hence the phrase what's good for the goose is good for the gander  Horace Mann is now the gators and Baytown junior is just goslins.

[OlDawg]

30 minutes ago, gary-us-bonds said:

28 to 14 at the half.

Bubba Hill was the other running back.

Goslin is what Baytown junior and Horace Mann junior mascots were. Red goslins and green goslins. A gosling is a young goose. A Gander is a male goose, hence the phrase what's good for the goose is good for the gander  Horace Mann is now the gators and Baytown junior is just goslins.

Bubba - yes. Whitmore was the FB. Byars QB, Bubba, Barron & Keith at FB. I know what a goslin is & the mascots. LOL

You're right on the score now that I think about it. Forgot y’all had scored by half.

Just razzing him because he & I have had side discussions about the Olin times. Lee was a solid club back then. Olin never recaptured the magic at Lewisville.

[OlDawg]

Reminds me of a funny time we took my grandmother (she was in her 70’s at the time) to a hamburger joint on old 146 kinda across from Snowflake. We tried to order her a hamburger—but, they called them gander burgers there. We almost died laughing because she kept saying she didn’t want a duck burger. She just wanted a plain old hamburger. LOL

Don’t remember the name of the place. But, they were good burgers. It’s been decades back.

[Goslin]

Baytown Jr’s colors are still red and white.  I still call their team the Red Goslins occasionally and every time I do I end up having to explain why.  I don’t know why GCCISD decided to change the mascot when they built the current HMJS at its new location.  Both Jr Schools feed into REL and are natural rivals and the mascots fed into that a little bit.  

[Goslin]

11 minutes ago, OlDawg said:

Reminds me of a funny time we took my grandmother (she was in her 70’s at the time) to a hamburger joint on old 146 kinda across from Snowflake. We tried to order her a hamburger—but, they called them gander burgers there. We almost died laughing because she kept saying she didn’t want a duck burger. She just wanted a plain old hamburger. LOL

Don’t remember the name of the place. But, they were good burgers. It’s been decades back.

Where snowflake is now or where it was before?  Snowflake is in the old Bonus Burger building now and I think that building was a Whataburger originally back in the 50’s/60’s.  Just trying to figure out what building that hamburger stand was in.  That’s a great story, BTW.

[OlDawg]

7 minutes ago, Goslin said:

Where snowflake is now or where it was before?  Snowflake is in the old Bonus Burger building now and I think they building was a Whataburger originally back in the 50’s/60’s.  Just trying to figure out what building that hamburger stand was in.  That’s a great story.

Haven’t been there in years. But, Snowflake used to be on the northbound side in an old white rundown place that looked like an old drive up joint. You had to know where it was because it was kinda back from the highway and looked like a real dive. Maybe across from the old Bonanza? When TSO was still on Texas. Used to get my glasses there.

Used to go to Snowflake just for their humongous apple friitters. Best fritters I ever ate & hard to eat one by yourself.

[Goslin]

9 minutes ago, OlDawg said:

Haven’t been there in years. But, Snowflake used to be on the northbound side in an old white rundown place that looked like an old drive up joint. Used to go there just for their humongous apple friitters.

Yeah, Snowflake’s always been good.  I remember the old location, barely.  We didn’t go there much because we always went to B&L Donuts across from the old Hospital and the Library.  My mom loved their Bavarian Cream donuts.  They dusted them with powdered sugar.  Had an old breakfast counter with the stools set into the floor.  Great place.  The old man that had it finally died and his kids didn’t want to run it so they sold out to an Asian lady that still makes pretty good donuts but they’re not the same.

Best kolache I ever had, though, wasn’t at either of those places.  They had them in the cafeteria at REL before school.  Cubed ham and government cheese.  Thing was huge, they served it on a small paper plate and it was the size of the plate.  Good times…

[OlDawg]

7 minutes ago, Goslin said:

Yeah, Snowflake’s always been good.  I remember the old location, barely.  We didn’t go there much because we always went to B&L Donuts across from the old Hospital and the Library.  My mom loved their Bavarian Cream donuts.  They dusted them with powdered sugar.  Had an old breakfast counter with the stools set into the floor.  Great place.  The old man that had it finally died and his kids didn’t want to run it so they sold out to an Asian lady that still makes pretty good donuts but they’re not the same.

Best kolache I ever had, though, wasn’t at either of those locations.  They had them in the cafeteria at REL before school.  Cubed ham and government cheese.  Thing was huge, they served it on a small paper plate and it was the size of the plate.  Good times…

Before I went into the Service, I was a WSII (water safety instructor instructor—one of two in SE Texas), and taught lifeguards & Water Safety Instructors at the pool at REL. Used to be one of the better indoor pools I could use in partnership with Red Cross in the area. Trained the first group of lifeguards for Waterworld/Astroworld there.

[Goslin]

4 minutes ago, OlDawg said:

Before I went into the Service, I was a WSII (water safety instructor instructor—one of two in SE Texas), and taught lifeguards & Water Safety Instructors at the pool at REL. Trained the first group of lifeguards for Waterworld/Astroworld there.

I really started questioning rhe decisions made by the folks at GCCISD after they decided to fill the REL pool in with concrete.  It was great.  I knew a girl back then who was on the Water Polo team.  Loved hanging out around there.

[OlDawg]

3 minutes ago, Goslin said:

I really started disliking the folks at GCCISD when they decided to fill the REL pool in with concrete.  It was great.  I knew a girl back then who was on the Water Polo team.  Loved hanging out around there.

Didn’t know they’d done that. That’s a shame. Guess it got too old to repair. Kinda like me. Ha!

[gary-us-bonds]

Memory is playing tricks on you. Whitmore was the offensive tackle. He went to UT.

Byars, walker and hill were in the backfield.

 

 

[OlDawg]

2 minutes ago, gary-us-bonds said:

Memory is playing tricks on you. Whitmore was the offensive tackle. He went to UT.

Byars, walker and hill were in the backfield.

 

 

I guess so. Who was the FB I’m forgetting? We ran the full bone then. I’m forgetting someone…

I’ll have to dig up my old yearbooks.