setxathlete14 Posted January 12 Report Posted January 12 In short, proof is in the pudding that (Orangefield) historically operates the best out of the slot t... records show that.. for whatever reason that may be. bullets13 1 Quote
bullets13 Posted January 12 Report Posted January 12 4 minutes ago, setxathlete14 said: To note, you compare that to ORANGEFIELD non slot t production. It is successful with better output. Non slot t offenses were far worse speaking for OF correct. part of the unspoken point, although through further discourse it's becoming clear I needed to spell things out better Quote
setxathlete14 Posted January 12 Report Posted January 12 Just now, bullets13 said: correct. part of the unspoken point, although through further discourse it's becoming clear I needed to spell things out better They have a pretty good passer coming up because someones nephew or son can throw the Pigskin a quarter mile they want to change the offense to pro style again for 2 years to cater to the said prolific passer. And go sub .500s trying to throw it deep every play. Quote
navydawg31 Posted January 12 Report Posted January 12 3 minutes ago, bullets13 said: what are you talking about? I'm discussing all of the bad local teams who haven't done crap for the last ten years. They would LOVE to have found the success Orangefield has. PNG and WOS literally have nothing to do with anything in this discussion. So you are saying orangefield is a bad team? So might be time to change out of that slot t offense. lol Quote
navydawg31 Posted January 12 Report Posted January 12 3 minutes ago, setxathlete14 said: They have a pretty good passer coming up because someones nephew or son can throw the Pigskin a quarter mile they want to change the offense to pro style again for 2 years to cater to the said prolific passer. And go sub .500s trying to throw it deep every play. Yeah cause that slot t did wonders. Quote
setxathlete14 Posted January 12 Report Posted January 12 4 minutes ago, navydawg31 said: Yeah cause that slot t did wonders. Show me another orangefield offense that produced better... Quote
navydawg31 Posted January 12 Report Posted January 12 5 minutes ago, setxathlete14 said: Show me another orangefield offense that produced better... You are comparing apples to oranges. You know how much the game has evolved to and changed? But still pound those 1960s offense. Quote
setxathlete14 Posted January 12 Report Posted January 12 3 minutes ago, navydawg31 said: You are comparing apples to oranges. You know how much the game has evolved to and changed? But still pound those 1960s offense. It works better for some. OF being one... LCM for whatever reason was less successful with it.. OF has had more winning seasons with that offense than any other. Not saying they can't or won't. But they operate better from the slot T Quote
bullets13 Posted January 12 Report Posted January 12 19 minutes ago, navydawg31 said: So you are saying orangefield is a bad team? So might be time to change out of that slot t offense. lol unfortunately this site doesn't have the technology for me to bust out the crayons and draw you a picture so that you can understand what I'm saying. No, I'm not saying they are a bad team. You basically are, though. The point I'm making is that there are MANY, MANY local teams who ARE BAD who would have loved to field the teams and have the results that Orangefield has had over the last decade running the slot-t. Ironically enough, two of the local teams who would gladly trade places with Orangefield over the last decade both had success for a couple of seasons each WHILE RUNNING THE SLOT-T, only to fade back into nothing when they switched offenses. CardinalBacker 1 Quote
navydawg31 Posted January 12 Report Posted January 12 2 minutes ago, bullets13 said: unfortunately this site doesn't have the technology for me to bust out the crayons and draw you a picture so that you can understand what I'm saying. No, I'm not saying they are a bad team. You basically are, though. The point I'm making is that there are MANY, MANY local teams who ARE BAD who would have loved to field the teams and have the results that Orangefield has had over the last decade running the slot-t. Unfortunately you can’t bust out those crayons because you probably ate them it’s ok tho. Messing with your brain. There is not MANY MANY local teams that would “love” to have the same results go sell that trash to someone else, try maybe a handful and that’s a reach, orangefield is a .500 school while being one of the biggest schools in the state for their division. With 0 double digit winning seasons, 0 3rd round trips. Quote
AggiesAreWe Posted January 12 Report Posted January 12 Just now, navydawg31 said: Unfortunately you can’t bust out those crayons because you probably ate them it’s ok tho. Messing with your brain. There is not MANY MANY local teams that would “love” to have the same results go sell that trash to someone else, try maybe a handful and that’s a reach, orangefield is a .500 school while being one of the biggest schools in the state for their division. With 0 double digit winning seasons, 0 3rd round trips. Just for argument sake, define "many" and "handful". Quote
navydawg31 Posted January 12 Report Posted January 12 Just now, AggiesAreWe said: Just for argument sake, define "many" and "handful". Well how many fingers are on a hand? Quote
AggiesAreWe Posted January 12 Report Posted January 12 Just now, navydawg31 said: Well how many fingers are on a hand? 4. So you are stating that there are only 4 teams in SETX that would want the success of Orangefield over the last decade? bullets13 1 Quote
bullets13 Posted January 12 Report Posted January 12 Just now, AggiesAreWe said: Just for argument sake, define "many" and "handful". I know this isn't directed at me, but I don't think it would be difficult at all over all classifications in our coverage area to make a list in the neighborhood of 2-3 dozen teams who haven't come close to the success that Orangefield has seen in the last decade. Quote
AggiesAreWe Posted January 12 Report Posted January 12 1 minute ago, bullets13 said: I know this isn't directed at me, but I don't think it would be difficult at all over all classifications in our coverage area to make a list in the neighborhood of 2-3 dozen teams who haven't come close to the success that Orangefield has seen in the last decade. From 3A and down, I count 12-14. Quote
navydawg31 Posted January 12 Report Posted January 12 4 minutes ago, AggiesAreWe said: 4. So you are stating that there are only 4 teams in SETX that would want the success of Orangefield over the last decade? Yes inside the golden triangle. Quote
bullets13 Posted January 12 Report Posted January 12 3 minutes ago, AggiesAreWe said: From 3A and down, I count 12-14. and not hard to find that many 4a and up Quote
AggiesAreWe Posted January 12 Report Posted January 12 Just now, navydawg31 said: Yes inside the golden triangle. Oh, now you have minimized the boundary. I'm sorry, but when on this site, I consider our coverage area. And, inside the Golden Triangle means inside Beaumont, PA and Orange. Only about 8 total teams "inside" the triangle. DP#1FAN 1 Quote
navydawg31 Posted January 12 Report Posted January 12 2 minutes ago, AggiesAreWe said: Oh, now you have minimized the boundary. I'm sorry, but when on this site, I consider our coverage area. And, inside the Golden Triangle means inside Beaumont, PA and Orange. Only about 8 total teams "inside" the triangle. Golden triangle is considered Orange, Jefferson, and Hardin county. I guess shouldn’t have said inside. But Golden triangle. That’s what I consider setx. Jasper pending on who you ask is East Texas. BH/Crosby area East Houston.. setx my definition is those counties I listed. Quote
AggiesAreWe Posted January 12 Report Posted January 12 22 minutes ago, navydawg31 said: Golden triangle is considered Orange, Jefferson, and Hardin county. I guess shouldn’t have said inside. But Golden triangle. That’s what I consider setx. Jasper pending on who you ask is East Texas. BH/Crosby area East Houston.. setx my definition is those counties I listed. I see. Pretty minimal when talking on this site. But to each their own. Quote
navydawg31 Posted January 12 Report Posted January 12 4 minutes ago, AggiesAreWe said: I see. Pretty minimal when talking on this site. But to each their own. So north shore is setx? Quote
AggiesAreWe Posted January 12 Report Posted January 12 1 minute ago, navydawg31 said: So north shore is setx? All I am saying is they have been in our coverage area for many years. If we went solely by your parameters (Hardin, Jefferson and Orange counties) we would only cover around 18 schools. Chambers, Liberty, Polk, Jasper, Tyler and Newton county schools would be omitted. We made the decision many years ago that we would cover every school that was in a district with our "core" schools. "Core" schools was defined by all those counties (nine) that have been listed. We are not defining what is SETX here on the site. Just who we cover. But my definition is vastly larger than yours. DP#1FAN 1 Quote
Reagan Posted January 12 Report Posted January 12 43 minutes ago, navydawg31 said: Golden triangle is considered Orange, Jefferson, and Hardin county. I guess shouldn’t have said inside. But Golden triangle. That’s what I consider setx. Jasper pending on who you ask is East Texas. BH/Crosby area East Houston.. setx my definition is those counties I listed. One post here said that Orangefield has hit their ceiling. If this is true, do you think it's because of the kids they've had or because of the coaches they've had? Quote
CardinalBacker Posted January 12 Report Posted January 12 58 minutes ago, navydawg31 said: Golden triangle is considered Orange, Jefferson, and Hardin county. I guess shouldn’t have said inside. But Golden triangle. That’s what I consider setx. Jasper pending on who you ask is East Texas. BH/Crosby area East Houston.. setx my definition is those counties I listed. No… the Golden Triangle is BMT, PA, Orange, and anything inside of the triangle formed by those three cities. Or the Triplex, if you were around in the 80s. This is the hidden content, please Sign In or Sign Up SETX for me is basically anything East of the Trinity up to 190. But schools on the on that 190 corridor are kind of SETX outsiders. Livingston, Woodville, Jasper, and Newton are still in, but barely. Lum and Silsbee, for instance, are SETX but not Golden Triangle. Winnie? Setx, not triangle. Vidor? Triangle. Deweyville? SW Louisiana. It’s simple. TxHoops 1 Quote
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