Right99JOH Posted December 15, 2023 Report Posted December 15, 2023 1 minute ago, Reagan said: Absolutely! Why not? He did it in his second year at Carthage. No titles before Surratt and how many since he’s been there! The point is: some coaches have that special talent. At any given time there’s only less than 10% elite coaches. Man... you are sad. Only about wins and losses. Nothing more, nothing less. Such a simple mind. Maybe one day you'll be able to see that coaches are much more than wins and losses. Colt45Red and MackLewis 2 Quote
Right99JOH Posted December 15, 2023 Report Posted December 15, 2023 2 minutes ago, Reagan said: Any Texas coach that won Titles out of state is considered. But private schools don’t fit in my calculations. Calculations?!?! Your Ti-81 is broken Quote
Reagan Posted December 15, 2023 Report Posted December 15, 2023 1 minute ago, Right99JOH said: Man... you are sad. Only about wins and losses. Nothing more, nothing less. Such a simple mind. Maybe one day you'll be able to see that coaches are much more than wins and losses. Every day coaches are hired and fired based on wins and losses. Right?! Who would you want coaching your team/kid, Surratt or a coach that’s has an 0-50 record over the last 5 years? Quote
Reagan Posted December 15, 2023 Report Posted December 15, 2023 2 minutes ago, Right99JOH said: Calculations?!?! Your Ti-81 is broken My calculations that goes into whether or not a coach reached Elite status. I have mine you may, or may not, have yours. Quote
Right99JOH Posted December 15, 2023 Report Posted December 15, 2023 6 minutes ago, Reagan said: Every day coaches are hired and fired based on wins and losses. Right?! Who would you want coaching your team/kid, Surratt or a coach that’s has an 0-50 record over the last 5 years? AGAIN wins and losses are only a small part of what I want for my kids. I want someone that teaches more than X's and O's. I want someone who makes a difference cause well all that teenagers know it all and moms and dads know nothing. I want someone who teaches/coaches through adversity and help make an impression on a teenagers life. RedJollyRoger 1 Quote
Midcountyman89 Posted December 15, 2023 Report Posted December 15, 2023 6 minutes ago, Reagan said: Any Texas coach that won Titles out of state is considered. But private schools don’t fit in my calculations. I’m glad we get some more clarification 😂 the more you write, the more you prove to readers on here how you are so out of touch. You don’t realize you’re the site laughing board, but there’s no teaching old dogs new tricks, and I was mistaken to think I could help educate you. Football is football, Texas or Louisiana or Ohio, Tapps or UIL, high school or college; helping kids and changing lives also can make someone elite, and each story and town are different. It’s wild you can’t understand that, and I’ve seen firsthand how people have tried to show you but you stay stubborn—add me to the list. From our brief interaction, at least I can say I can walk away learning one thing: Reagan is an idiot and you guys are right, it’s pretty comical. Keep doing you man. Enjoy life in your parents basement or whatever Right99JOH 1 Quote
Right99JOH Posted December 15, 2023 Report Posted December 15, 2023 1 minute ago, Midcountyman89 said: I’m glad we get some more clarification 😂 the more you write, the more you prove to readers on here how you are so out of touch. You don’t realize you’re the site laughing board, but there’s no teaching old dogs new tricks, and I was mistaken to think I could help educate you. Football is football, Texas or Louisiana or Ohio, Tapps or UIL, high school or college; helping kids and changing lives also can make someone elite, and each story and town are different. It’s wild you can’t understand that, and I’ve seen firsthand how people have tried to show you but you stay stubborn—add me to the list. From our brief interaction, at least I can say I can walk away learning one thing: Reagan is an idiot and you guys are right, it’s pretty comical. Keep doing you man. Enjoy life in your parents basement or whatever Reagan got picked last for kicked ball in elementary and has held a grudge ever since. Then one day he picked up a coaching for dummies book and all the sudden became a guru on "elite" coaches. Reagan 1 Quote
Reagan Posted December 15, 2023 Report Posted December 15, 2023 1 minute ago, Right99JOH said: AGAIN wins and losses are only a small part of what I want for my kids. I want someone that teaches more than X's and O's. I want someone who makes a difference cause well all that teenagers know it all and moms and dads no nothing. I want someone who teaches/coaches through adversity and help make an impression on a teenagers life. Unfortunately for your thoughts, no school is going to hire an 0-50 coach. More likely that would get you fired. Although this coach might be the nicest guy in the world. Right99JOH 1 Quote
Right99JOH Posted December 15, 2023 Report Posted December 15, 2023 2 minutes ago, Reagan said: Unfortunately for your thoughts, no school is going to hire an 0-50 coach. More likely that would get you fired. Although this coach might be the nicest guy in the world. Thank you for the laughs. You missed your calling as a comedy writer. Quote
Reagan Posted December 15, 2023 Report Posted December 15, 2023 Just now, Right99JOH said: Thank you for the laughs. You missed your calling as a writer for comedies. I enjoy exchanging opinions. Let’s keep remembering, opinions are what we are writing. TrojanMoJo 1 Quote
RedJollyRoger Posted December 15, 2023 Report Posted December 15, 2023 Just got word OF made Hickman an offer to the tune of a quarter-million dollars with stock options...he'll be in Orange next year. Quote
WOSdrummer99 Posted December 15, 2023 Report Posted December 15, 2023 That got a lil heated. The topic is OF job opening. They're not getting any elite coach no matter whose or whats definition one uses. They'll be doing good to get an assistant from a local program. SmashMouth and KF89 1 1 Quote
Reagan Posted December 15, 2023 Report Posted December 15, 2023 18 minutes ago, WOSdrummer99 said: That got a lil heated. The topic is OF job opening. They're not getting any elite coach no matter whose or whats definition one uses. They'll be doing good to get an assistant from a local program. Look, know one starts out as Elite. Surratt didn’t; Buchanan didn’t. Elite status is earned. One never knows what they’ll get. OF may get that special person. But you can’t do what Vidor and Bridge City did. It appears that they didn’t even try to find the next Surratt or Buchanan. Well, as for as BC, we’ll, you know how I feel about hiring home cooking. Quote
Bobcat1 Posted December 15, 2023 Report Posted December 15, 2023 Easy on the personal attacks and stay on topic. WOSdrummer99, lovethegame19, Reagan and 1 other 3 1 Quote
MackLewis Posted December 15, 2023 Report Posted December 15, 2023 8 hours ago, Reagan said: Absolutely! Why not? He did it in his second year at Carthage. No titles before Surratt and how many since he’s been there! The point is: some coaches have that special talent. At any given time there’s only less than 10% elite coaches. Carthage also has the special talent many other schools don’t. Athletic talent. A great coaching job at HJ or Liberty would be the 3rd or 4th round. Reggie Samples, Claude Mathis, or Gary Joseph could come to Beaumont United and a great coaching job would be to get 2nd or 3rd in that district. Some people live in reality, others fantasy. bullets13, RedJollyRoger and KF89 3 Quote
Powell2020 Posted December 15, 2023 Report Posted December 15, 2023 Some great Coaches have applied, very exciting to see what they can do with Orangefield past Smalley Quote
Right99JOH Posted December 15, 2023 Report Posted December 15, 2023 8 hours ago, Reagan said: Look, know one starts out as Elite. Surratt didn’t; Buchanan didn’t. Elite status is earned. One never knows what they’ll get. OF may get that special person. But you can’t do what Vidor and Bridge City did. It appears that they didn’t even try to find the next Surratt or Buchanan. Well, as for as BC, we’ll, you know how I feel about hiring home cooking. Can't do what Vidor and BC did????? Can't speak for BC but I can speak on Vidor. They hired someone that is more than just about wins and losses, but about building character, teamwork, and sportsman ship. Those attributes will take someone much further in life than high school wins and losses. Again, it's sad that your simple mind only cares about wins and losses for young men that range in age of 14-18 yrs old.... and sometimes those young men will go to war and give everything they have for a coach that is 0-50 but lay down and think the sky is falling when a coach is 50-0 and loses a game. 89Falcon 1 Quote
Sportsfan15 Posted December 15, 2023 Report Posted December 15, 2023 58 minutes ago, Powell2020 said: Some great Coaches have applied, very exciting to see what they can do with Orangefield past Smalley Where can we see this? Quote
KF89 Posted December 15, 2023 Report Posted December 15, 2023 The PNG DC & OC should be at the top of the OF call list for AD\head coach position, imo. Quote
Reagan Posted December 15, 2023 Report Posted December 15, 2023 3 hours ago, MackLewis said: Carthage also has the special talent many other schools don’t. Athletic talent. A great coaching job at HJ or Liberty would be the 3rd or 4th round. Reggie Samples, Claude Mathis, or Gary Joseph could come to Beaumont United and a great coaching job would be to get 2nd or 3rd in that district. Some people live in reality, others fantasy. Help me out: How many State Titles does Carthage have before Surratt got there? Quote
Mr. Thornton Melon Posted December 15, 2023 Report Posted December 15, 2023 11 hours ago, Right99JOH said: AGAIN wins and losses are only a small part of what I want for my kids. I want someone that ca teaches more than X's and O's. I want someone who makes a difference cause well all that teenagers know it all and moms and dads know nothing. I want someone who teaches/coaches through adversity and help make an impression on a teenagers life. Good coaches can do this too. Reagan 1 Quote
Reagan Posted December 15, 2023 Report Posted December 15, 2023 57 minutes ago, Right99JOH said: Can't do what Vidor and BC did????? Can't speak for BC but I can speak on Vidor. They hired someone that is more than just about wins and losses, but about building character, teamwork, and sportsman ship. Those attributes will take someone much further in life than high school wins and losses. Again, it's sad that your simple mind only cares about wins and losses for young men that range in age of 14-18 yrs old.... and sometimes those young men will go to war and give everything they have for a coach that is 0-50 but lay down and think the sky is falling when a coach is 50-0 and loses a game. What will get you fired quicker: An 0-50 record or someone that says, I’ve built character, teamwork and sportsmanship? Wins and loses? What do you think kids would rather, experience what the PNG faithful has experienced the past two years or staying home like the majority of teams did? Quote
Reagan Posted December 15, 2023 Report Posted December 15, 2023 3 minutes ago, Mr. Thornton Melon said: Good coaches can do this too. True! I guess the Elite coaches we talk about can’t any of this. Quote
Old Ape Posted December 15, 2023 Report Posted December 15, 2023 20 minutes ago, Reagan said: Help me out: How many State Titles does Carthage have before Surratt got there? Lost in semis in 83 and finals in 91. That is as close as they got before Surratt Reagan 1 Quote
Right99JOH Posted December 15, 2023 Report Posted December 15, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, Reagan said: True! I guess the Elite coaches we talk about can’t any of this. Simpleton....ALL YOU TALK ABOUT are the W's and L's.... It's more than that!.... Most kids are realistic enough to know that they are NOT going to compete with the top tier programs in the state. NO matter who the coach is! Dude are you that clueless?!?!?!? Edited December 15, 2023 by WOSdrummer99 Language Quote
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