Bobcat1 Posted December 15, 2023 Report Share Posted December 15, 2023 Post'm here! Mr. Buddy Garrity 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AggiesAreWe Posted December 15, 2023 Report Share Posted December 15, 2023 Reagan is prohibited to post on this thread. setxathlete14, PN-G bamatex, bullets13 and 5 others 1 2 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach_Izzy Posted December 15, 2023 Report Share Posted December 15, 2023 There’s no grey area when judging what’s makes great coaches….they are judged by two things: “WINS and LOSSES” Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WOSdrummer99 Posted December 16, 2023 Report Share Posted December 16, 2023 @Coach_Izzy How does Jim and Joe explain my Mustang downfall? DCTF had us ranked #2 in the state based on the returning players. Even after our HOF coach retired and handed the keys to an assistant. Did CT take the kids with him to the pasture? Or did the new coaches not have the same ability to produce champions? Or the wisdom to call plays instead of timeouts and delay of game penalties? (This isn't about coach bashing. Just a really good example) I know there's always an exception to the rule. But I've seen rookie coaches win the championship the past 2 seasons. And maybe further back if I go look. This is about admitting there is a correlation to Jim and Joe being coached up by someone who is an elite coach. Not just a good or great coach. MY Levels of Coaching BAD 0-10 but everyone plays AVERAGE 5-6 1st round exit GOOD 7-5 makes playoffs most years GREAT 10-3 battles for a DC and makes playoffs every year ELITE 13-1 expects to play in the region final every year, with a chance to play for the championship Now another thing I'd like to add to the conversation. All these different things that have been said about what makes a coach great... Leading and molding young men, making sure they stay in class and school, all the things that coaches do for their students off the field. That's the basic job description that we expect for every one of them. All coaches at all schools should be held to that minimum standard. But like @Reagan has said... we hire them with the expectation to win on top of that. Did anyone listen to any of the post game interviews? Nobody thanked the superintendents. All glory given to God. Philippians 4:13 bullets13, Reagan, Rez and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach_Izzy Posted December 18, 2023 Report Share Posted December 18, 2023 On 12/16/2023 at 2:08 AM, WOSdrummer99 said: @Coach_Izzy How does Jim and Joe explain my Mustang downfall? DCTF had us ranked #2 in the state based on the returning players. Even after our HOF coach retired and handed the keys to an assistant. Did CT take the kids with him to the pasture? Or did the new coaches not have the same ability to produce champions? Or the wisdom to call plays instead of timeouts and delay of game penalties? (This isn't about coach bashing. Just a really good example) I know there's always an exception to the rule. But I've seen rookie coaches win the championship the past 2 seasons. And maybe further back if I go look. This is about admitting there is a correlation to Jim and Joe being coached up by someone who is an elite coach. Not just a good or great coach. MY Levels of Coaching BAD 0-10 but everyone plays AVERAGE 5-6 1st round exit GOOD 7-5 makes playoffs most years GREAT 10-3 battles for a DC and makes playoffs every year ELITE 13-1 expects to play in the region final every year, with a chance to play for the championship Now another thing I'd like to add to the conversation. All these different things that have been said about what makes a coach great... Leading and molding young men, making sure they stay in class and school, all the things that coaches do for their students off the field. That's the basic job description that we expect for every one of them. All coaches at all schools should be held to that minimum standard. But like @Reagan has said... we hire them with the expectation to win on top of that. Did anyone listen to any of the post game interviews? Nobody thanked the superintendents. All glory given to God. Philippians 4:13 I know coaches on that staff personally & from what I’ve been told the talent has drastically declined over the years. So that explains the downfall. Secondly coaching does indeed matter just not over talent bullets13, outanup and setxathlete14 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SmashMouth Posted December 18, 2023 Report Share Posted December 18, 2023 32 minutes ago, Coach_Izzy said: I know coaches on that staff personally & from what I’ve been told the talent has drastically declined over the years. So that explains the downfall. Secondly coaching does indeed matter just not over talent I know you’re not trying to win a popularity contest, and that post will certainly not help if you are. Lol. setxathlete14 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach_Izzy Posted December 18, 2023 Report Share Posted December 18, 2023 Just now, SmashMouth said: I know you’re not trying to win a popularity contest, and that post will certainly not help if you are. Lol. I haven't watched WOS play in years so I’m going based off what was told from me from a guy I trust that is on the staff. Said there has been a drastic decline in talent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SmashMouth Posted December 18, 2023 Report Share Posted December 18, 2023 2 minutes ago, Coach_Izzy said: I haven't watched WOS play in years so I’m going based off what was told from me from a guy I trust that is on the staff. Said there has been a drastic decline in talent. I wasn’t finding fault. Just making a funny comment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
setxathlete14 Posted December 18, 2023 Report Share Posted December 18, 2023 4 minutes ago, SmashMouth said: I know you’re not trying to win a popularity contest, and that post will certainly not help if you are. Lol. That explains it! CT was only successful because they had all stars every year for 20+ years... I knew it. 🤡 bullets13 and pine curtain 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WOSdrummer99 Posted December 18, 2023 Report Share Posted December 18, 2023 (edited) 16 minutes ago, Coach_Izzy said: I haven't watched WOS play in years so I’m going based off what was told from me from a guy I trust that is on the staff. Said there has been a drastic decline in talent. I won't hold u responsible for those excuses. 8 returned on defense from a 21 team that lost to the eventual state champion. 4 of which were all District as underclassmen. But I guess they left their talent on the field in Magnoila that night vs China Spring. Something definitely left our program in 2021. Hmmmm? Since you are the resident SETXSPORTS.COM coach. If u were given... sorry, earned a HC/AD job at North Shore, Bisd, or WOS. Would u hire this coach you trust so much? Edited December 18, 2023 by WOSdrummer99 ... sorry, earned setxathlete14 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KF89 Posted December 18, 2023 Report Share Posted December 18, 2023 A more factual statement from watching multiple Wos games each year the last 33 years is there was a small decline in player talent & huge decline in coaching staff talent since Hickman crew took over. CT handed over a team he built that had a very good amount of player talent to make a deep playoff run Hickman's 1st year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach_Izzy Posted December 18, 2023 Report Share Posted December 18, 2023 14 minutes ago, WOSdrummer99 said: I won't hold u responsible for those excuses. 8 returned on defense from a 21 team that lost to the eventual state champion. 4 of which were all District as underclassmen. But I guess they left their talent on the field in Magnoila that night vs China Spring. Something definitely left our program in 2021. Hmmmm? Since you are the resident SETXSPORTS.COM coach. If u were given... sorry, earned a HC/AD job at North Shore, Bisd, or WOS. Would u hire this coach you trust so much? Never coached with him so that’s hard to say…but I def trust his judgement. But again I haven't watched a WOS game probably since DT was there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reagan Posted December 18, 2023 Report Share Posted December 18, 2023 9 minutes ago, WOSdrummer99 said: I won't hold u responsible for those excuses. 8 returned on defense from a 21 team that lost to the eventual state champion. 4 of which were all District as underclassmen. But I guess they left their talent on the field in Magnoila that night vs China Spring. Something definitely left our program in 2021. Hmmmm? Since you are the resident SETXSPORTS.COM coach. If u were given... sorry, earned a HC/AD job at North Shore, Bisd, or WOS. Would u hire this coach you trust so much? I, like you, have actually seen WOS play the past two years. From what I saw they had some talent. It was quite obvious they were poorly coached. One poor coaching decision was to change everything that had been successful. The new Aledo coach said: why change what has been working? Who just won a State Title? That’s part of “coaching!” Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach_Izzy Posted December 18, 2023 Report Share Posted December 18, 2023 6 minutes ago, Reagan said: I, like you, have actually seen WOS play the past two years. From what I saw they had some talent. It was quite obvious they were poorly coached. One poor coaching decision was to change everything that had been successful. The new Aledo coach said: why change what has been working? Who just won a State Title? That’s part of “coaching!” NO ONE runs a 5-2 defense man lol you wanted a new DC to come in & run that BS? Lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pine curtain Posted December 18, 2023 Report Share Posted December 18, 2023 6 minutes ago, KF89 said: A more factual statement from watching multiple Wos games each year the last 33 years is there was a small decline in player talent & huge decline in coaching staff talent since Hickman crew took over. CT handed over a team he built that had a very good amount of player talent to make a deep playoff run Hickman's 1st year. WOS coaching built a culture and an expectation of winning from day 1 in pee wee league. without that you have a team like United. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
setxathlete14 Posted December 18, 2023 Report Share Posted December 18, 2023 31 minutes ago, Coach_Izzy said: NO ONE runs a 5-2 defense man lol you wanted a new DC to come in & run that BS? Lol Ok that's all I can handle. You really are clueless. I'm embarrassed for you with "coach" attached to even your forum name. 89Falcon 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach_Izzy Posted December 18, 2023 Report Share Posted December 18, 2023 2 minutes ago, setxathlete14 said: Ok that's all I can handle. You really are clueless. I'm embarrassed for you with "coach" attached to even your forum name. Lol sureeeee…tell us your credentials why don’t ya? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
setxathlete14 Posted December 18, 2023 Report Share Posted December 18, 2023 Just now, Coach_Izzy said: Lol sureeeee…tell us your credentials why don’t ya? I have 0,......Idk what yours are. But its a tragedy at any level 89Falcon 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach_Izzy Posted December 18, 2023 Report Share Posted December 18, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, setxathlete14 said: I have 0,......Idk what yours are. But its a tragedy at any level Lol exactly ..... you on here talking about what you don’t know just like the rest on here. Edited December 18, 2023 by WOSdrummer99 Language setxathlete14 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
setxathlete14 Posted December 18, 2023 Report Share Posted December 18, 2023 4 minutes ago, Coach_Izzy said: Lol exactly stfu then…you on here talking about what you don’t know just like the rest on here. I bet you're one heck of a madden coach. That may be it, Otherwise your posts absolutely destroy any other credibility you think you have lol Right99JOH and 89Falcon 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
89Falcon Posted December 18, 2023 Report Share Posted December 18, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, Coach_Izzy said: Lol exactly stfu then…you on here talking about what you don’t know just like the rest on here. Calls himself a coach. Repeatedly made himself look ignorant. ...... Edited December 18, 2023 by WOSdrummer99 Language Right99JOH 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
setxathlete14 Posted December 18, 2023 Report Share Posted December 18, 2023 1 minute ago, 89Falcon said: Calls himself a coach. Repeatedly made himself look ignorant. Tells people "STFU" for not showing "credentials". X box/ps4 coach... 89Falcon 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach_Izzy Posted December 18, 2023 Report Share Posted December 18, 2023 2 minutes ago, 89Falcon said: Calls himself a coach. Repeatedly made himself look ignorant. Tells people "STFU" for not showing "credentials". *yawns 🥱🥱🥱 ozens fastest@1906 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
89Falcon Posted December 18, 2023 Report Share Posted December 18, 2023 Just now, Coach_Izzy said: *yawns 🥱🥱🥱 What is that supposed to mean? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach_Izzy Posted December 18, 2023 Report Share Posted December 18, 2023 2 minutes ago, 89Falcon said: What is that supposed to mean? Whatever you want it to mean lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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