Duncanville Gloves??

[ST413]

I have seen all the pi s and posts online about the interference call. The most interesting  thing to me was someone staying that Duncanville has made a habit of wearing the same color gloves as their opponents jerseys, thus making such calls a lot more difficult to see.  I saw some pics from a few games where that appeared to be the case, unless they were photoshopped pics.  Does anyone have any insight into this and if thats the case why hasnt there been a rule against this??

[AggiesAreWe]

2 minutes ago, ST413 said:

I have seen all the pi s and posts online about the interference call. The most interesting  thing to me was someone staying that Duncanville has made a habit of wearing the same color gloves as their opponents jerseys, thus making such calls a lot more difficult to see.  I saw some pics from a few games where that appeared to be the case, unless they were photoshopped pics.  Does anyone have any insight into this and if thats the case why hasnt there been a rule against this??

This is already being discussed in the game thread.

[LTFALCON]

Rule for telling kids they cant wear RED gloves if the opposing team is wearing red? No UIL rule for this at all. 

[ST413]

1 minute ago, LTFALCON said:

Rule for telling kids they cant wear RED gloves if the opposing team is wearing red? No UIL rule for this at all. 

Didnt say there was a rule said why isnt there one.  I know my daughter plays softball and there are rules , at least in some sanctions not sure about all of the, against having yellow in the uniform shirt so thT it doesnt hinder the batter seeing the ball.

[SmashMouth]

Even more. Let’s say you’re wearing Plain Jane white gloves and the other team’s jerseys are white. Happens all the time. 

[SmashMouth]

16 minutes ago, ST413 said:

Didnt say there was a rule said why isnt there one.  I know my daughter plays softball and there are rules , at least in some sanctions not sure about all of the, against having yellow in the uniform shirt so thT it doesnt hinder the batter seeing the ball.

Yeah, and they sing songs in the dugout too. Apples and oranges. 

[ST413]

Never said it didnt happen.  I also know in high school basketball the refs have made players take off or hide sleeves or leggings that didnt match their uniforms.

[SmashMouth]

Just now, ST413 said:

Never said it didnt happen.  I also know in high school basketball the refs have made players take off or hide sleeves or leggings that didnt match their uniforms.

Agreed, but what if they DO match your uniform and the other team's uniform too? Still got a problem...

[ST413]

2 minutes ago, SmashMouth said:

Agreed, but what if they DO match your uniform and the other team's uniform too? Still got a problem...

Then to me it wouldnt be obvious that you were attempting to “hide” a from a penalty.  If you want to carry that rule farther make the gloves match the teams jersey color then you cant worry about teams with same colora each team wuold have to go to the expense of hving a set of white gloves and their dark color gloves.

[ST413]

Obviously the expense wasnt an issue for duncanville.

[Reagan]

I'm not opposed to stretching the limits to have an advantage as long as it's within the rules.  Don't like what I do, then outlaw it.  Plain and simple!

[SmashMouth]

10 minutes ago, Reagan said:

I'm not opposed to stretching the limits to have an advantage as long as it's within the rules.  Don't like what I do, then outlaw it.  Plain and simple!

Agreed 100%

[pine curtain]

1 hour ago, LTFALCON said:

Rule for telling kids they cant wear RED gloves if the opposing team is wearing red? No UIL rule for this at all. 

Texas football uses NCAA rules with UIL exceptions.

[badndn]

2 hours ago, ST413 said:

Didnt say there was a rule said why isnt there one.  I know my daughter plays softball and there are rules , at least in some sanctions not sure about all of the, against having yellow in the uniform shirt so thT it doesnt hinder the batter seeing the ball.

Thats for safety reasons. A bright yellow ball being hurled at your head from 42 feet at 60+ mph is very different than a hold on a jersey. 
Until UIL makes it illegal then it’s up to the opposing coaches to make sure the crew calling the game is aware. It could actually backfire if a crew really cracks down on what the gloves are actually being used for. 

[PlayActionPass]

Lots of teams wear white gloves at home and dark gloves on the road, it's very normal.

[PNG4LIFE91]

Pretty sure the PI and gloves controversy was about SOC because their colors are BLACK/GOLD/WHITE so the ONLY reason select players, mainly DB’s and OL would be wearing PURPLE gloves vs PNG, POWDER BLUE vs Emerson, RED vs Lovejoy…etc is because they’re PURPOSELY trying to hide PI’s and holding from the officials in order to gain a edge!!   Maybe there’s no rule against it, but I think it’s flat out “dirty strategy” 

[OneChance]

12 minutes ago, NDNmom91 said:

Pretty sure the PI and gloves controversy was about SOC because their colors are BLACK/GOLD/WHITE so the ONLY reason select players, mainly DB’s and OL would be wearing PURPLE gloves vs PNG, POWDER BLUE vs Emerson, RED vs Lovejoy…etc is because they’re PURPOSELY trying to hide PI’s and holding from the officials in order to gain a edge!!   Maybe there’s no rule against it, but I think it’s flat out “dirty strategy” 

Say what you want, it within the rules, PNG players wore white gloves again SOC and SOC had white Jersey’s on, why didn’t PNG players wear purple or black gloves? I’m a huge PNG fan, we won, who really cares what color gloves they wore, they were legal.

[Mr. Buddy Garrity]

The only concern with gloves I'd have is if some team is using that old school stick'em stuff on em. Other than that play ball. 

[SmashMouth]

4 hours ago, NDNmom91 said:

Pretty sure the PI and gloves controversy was about SOC because their colors are BLACK/GOLD/WHITE so the ONLY reason select players, mainly DB’s and OL would be wearing PURPLE gloves vs PNG, POWDER BLUE vs Emerson, RED vs Lovejoy…etc is because they’re PURPOSELY trying to hide PI’s and holding from the officials in order to gain a edge!!   Maybe there’s no rule against it, but I think it’s flat out “dirty strategy” 

No ma’am. It’s smart strategy. Just like an O Lineman grabbing up under a D Lineman’s pads and holding him til he pulls away. Part of the strategy and game. And holding is actually illegal whereas the same color gloves  aren’t. 

[Right99JOH]

17 hours ago, Mr. Buddy Garrity said:

The only concern with gloves I'd have is if some team is using that old school stick'em stuff on em. Other than that play ball. 

No reason to use anything on the gloves being worn today.  Those gloves are incredibly sticky. 

[jefferson_washington]

The New England Patriots have been doing it for years. I don’t think this is a fight the UIL will go after. 
 

-Jeff

[setxathlete14]

2 hours ago, jefferson_washington said:

The New England Patriots have been doing it for years. I don’t think this is a fight the UIL will go after. 
 

-Jeff

They started that trend iirc very smart and legal

[setxathlete14]

On 12/19/2023 at 7:32 PM, PNG4LIFE91 said:

Pretty sure the PI and gloves controversy was about SOC because their colors are BLACK/GOLD/WHITE so the ONLY reason select players, mainly DB’s and OL would be wearing PURPLE gloves vs PNG, POWDER BLUE vs Emerson, RED vs Lovejoy…etc is because they’re PURPOSELY trying to hide PI’s and holding from the officials in order to gain a edge!!   Maybe there’s no rule against it, but I think it’s flat out “dirty strategy” 

I wouldn't call it dirty id call it smart

[PN-G bamatex]

On principle, I don’t think it’s right. It doesn’t just cover up holding. It can also disguise pass interference, horse collars and possibly face mask penalties or others I’m not thinking of. There are potential safety issues. At a minimum, doing so evinces a clear intent to obfuscate illegal activity. I think it should be illegal. In fact, I would support a rule requiring the home team to wear black gloves, if any, and the visiting team to wear white gloves, if any. Problem solved.

Having said that, if there isn’t going to be a rule against the practice, fair’s fair.

[Matthew328]

It's not done to hide penalties, it's called "disrespect spat" where you wear the other teams colors..its not uncommon to see...first time I saw SOC do it was in 2019 vs Kimball they wore red.....Kimball was in white jerseys that day so it clearly wasn't done for a competitive advantage then