Nederland is open, Barrow Resigns

[navydawg31]

Working for a Joseph to having to beat a Joseph gotta love it..

[88Warrior]

16 minutes ago, baddog said:

Can we get back to talking about Nederland’s new football coach? I know very little about him. I don’t feel like reading every post. Thanks. 

I second this motion!

[NHSBulldogFan]

6 minutes ago, PhatMack19 said:

I heard his speech was good. They will have a spring game.  Doesn’t that cost them a scrimmage?

SHHHH...it's a secret😄😄😄

[Rez]

Seems to me Nederland and PNG might be running very similar offenses now. MCM is about to be a bullfight - power runs and disciplined defense. Going to be mirrors of each other. 

[1970]

1 hour ago, NHSBulldogFan said:

Scott Rich has been named as Head Football Coach/AD at Nederland 

Yep, that's what I heard last Thursday out at Babe Z..  Congrats, and best of luck to Mr. Rich, and to the Nederland Bulldogs. 

[Bobcat1]

New thread for the new coach! 

[purpleeagle]

On 2/5/2024 at 5:58 PM, Rez Ipsa said:

Seems to me Nederland and PNG might be running very similar offenses now. MCM is about to be a bullfight - power runs and disciplined defense. Going to be mirrors of each other. 

Its not the offense,but the kids you have running it. As enrollment drops so does performance( in most cases, there are a few exceptions). PNG has 219 more kids in high school then Nederland.. you cannot put Joseph at Nederland and win district must less win state. Nederland will be better because they have a lot of returning starters but they will struggle to make the playoffs.    
By the end of the year the Nederland coach bashing club will be howling again. 
Nederland coach was told last year by adm. that his job was secure if he made the playoffs.   
They lied   
get ready for another donkey stomping by PNG next year. Also Ft Bend Marshall, lake creek,etc.. 

 

[89Falcon]

16 minutes ago, purpleeagle said:

Its not the offense,but the kids you have running it. As enrollment drops so does performance( in most cases, there are a few exceptions). PNG has 219 more kids in high school then Nederland.. you cannot put Joseph at Nederland and win district must less win state. Nederland will be better because they have a lot of returning starters but they will struggle to make the playoffs.    
By the end of the year the Nederland coach bashing club will be howling again. 
Nederland coach was told last year by adm. that his job was secure if he made the playoffs.   
They lied   
get ready for another donkey stomping by PNG next year. Also Ft Bend Marshall, lake creek,etc.. 

 

Is Nederland playing Marshall in their pre district schedule?

[Reagan]

1 hour ago, purpleeagle said:

Its not the offense,but the kids you have running it. As enrollment drops so does performance( in most cases, there are a few exceptions). PNG has 219 more kids in high school then Nederland.. you cannot put Joseph at Nederland and win district must less win state. Nederland will be better because they have a lot of returning starters but they will struggle to make the playoffs.    
By the end of the year the Nederland coach bashing club will be howling again. 
Nederland coach was told last year by adm. that his job was secure if he made the playoffs.   
They lied   
get ready for another donkey stomping by PNG next year. Also Ft Bend Marshall, lake creek,etc.. 

 

1)  Let me rephrase this:  It's not the offense, but the coach whose running it.

2)  Why did you just insult Joseph?  

[navydawg31]

1 hour ago, 89Falcon said:

Is Nederland playing Marshall in their pre district schedule?

Nope they aren’t. 

[89Falcon]

26 minutes ago, navydawg31 said:

Nope they aren’t. 

Then I don’t suppose Nederland will get a “donkey stomping” from Marshall.

[navydawg31]

42 minutes ago, 89Falcon said:

Then I don’t suppose Nederland will get a “donkey stomping” from Marshall.

Unless he’s making a prediction that Nederland and Marshall will meet up in the state championship game… lol 

[purpleeagle]

1 hour ago, Reagan said:

1)  Let me rephrase this:  It's not the offense, but the coach whose running it.

2)  Why did you just insult Joseph?  

I did not insult him. I love him as a coach but he has to have the kids to win. Some people on this site think that an elite coach can win anywhere. That is just not true.   
png won state because they had the players and had an exceptional good coach.

 

[purpleeagle]

2 minutes ago, navydawg31 said:

Unless he’s making a prediction that Nederland and Marshall will meet up in the state championship game… lol 

I think you missed the point 

[purpleeagle]

5 minutes ago, purpleeagle said:

I did not insult him. I love him as a coach but he has to have the kids to win. Some people on this site think that an elite coach can win anywhere. That is just not true.   
png won state because they had the players and had an exceptional good coach.

 

Png also has 219 more kids in high school then nederland.

[navydawg31]

36 minutes ago, purpleeagle said:

I think you missed the point 

Naw. You predicted Nederland would get donkey stomped by Ft bend Marshall… just going by what you said.  

[Bigdog]

3 hours ago, purpleeagle said:

Png also has 219 more kids in high school then nederland.

And Nederland has beat teams from bigger schools plenty in the past, including PNG.   .  What was the excuse all those years Neumann sent them home packing?  They had a bigger enrollment then.   I wouldn't count on school size dictating the size of the fight in the Dog.  😈

[89Falcon]

5 hours ago, purpleeagle said:

I think you missed the point 

Understood, FBM "donkey stomped" Nederland this year by "2 points". Would hate for Nederland to continue getting beat like that with no hope for the win.

[outanup]

I don't think anyone here would argue that the injuns have had better personal the last couple years. And better Coaching without  question. The biggest separation was in the trenches., and not so much skill wise imo.... Talent is cyclical, it comes and goes. If Neds new staff lives up to expectations, I see no issue of much more competitive matchups in the future. It's all cyclical ,coaching and talent.....Lets give it some time and see...200 more kids is a plus but by no means the tell all year by year.

[Rez]

8 hours ago, Bigdog said:

And Nederland has beat teams from bigger schools plenty in the past, including PNG.   .  What was the excuse all those years Neumann sent them home packing?  They had a bigger enrollment then.   I wouldn't count on school size dictating the size of the fight in the Dog.  😈

Nederland has had more or as many as PNG for several years at a time prior to the current swing. I don’t know about every year. We were practically equal in the 2017 count, but I could be remembering it wrong. It’s only recently PNG has trended up enrollment-wise. 

[Mr. Thornton Melon]

On 4/9/2024 at 8:17 AM, purpleeagle said:

Its not the offense,but the kids you have running it. As enrollment drops so does performance( in most cases, there are a few exceptions). PNG has 219 more kids in high school then Nederland.. you cannot put Joseph at Nederland and win district must less win state. Nederland will be better because they have a lot of returning starters but they will struggle to make the playoffs.    
By the end of the year the Nederland coach bashing club will be howling again. 
Nederland coach was told last year by adm. that his job was secure if he made the playoffs.   
They lied   
get ready for another donkey stomping by PNG next year. Also Ft Bend Marshall, lake creek,etc.. 

 

Png athletes are average and coaching carries them. Joseph would win anywhere he goes but png wouldn't win with just any coach

[Reagan]

10 minutes ago, Mr. Thornton Melon said:

Png athletes are average and coaching carries them. Joseph would win anywhere he goes but png wouldn't win with just any coach

True!  The previous coach, with the same type athletes, for 12 years could NOT get to the big dance.  New coach comes in and makes 2 State appearances and wins one.  AGAIN -- with the same type athletes.  At Nederland, the last coach took Ned to the toilet with the same type athletes Neumann had.  It all starts with the coaching!

[bullets13]

1 hour ago, Mr. Thornton Melon said:

Png athletes are average and coaching carries them. Joseph would win anywhere he goes but png wouldn't win with just any coach

PNG athletes (at this time) are still better, and more importantly, bigger, than what Nederland has.  Joseph made a difference there, but he came into a loaded program as well that pretty much everyone expected to show a lot of improvement.  He would not go to Nederland and turn them into state contenders in a year or two like he was able to do at PNG, although they would without a doubt improve.

[1989NDN]

18 hours ago, outanup said:

I don't think anyone here would argue that the injuns have had better personal the last couple years. And better Coaching without  question. The biggest separation was in the trenches., and not so much skill wise imo.... Talent is cyclical, it comes and goes. If Neds new staff lives up to expectations, I see no issue of much more competitive matchups in the future. It's all cyclical ,coaching and talent.....Lets give it some time and see...200 more kids is a plus but by no means the tell all year by year.

+1...the talent swings back and forth.  It's been that way since 1950?  1925?  The great seasons happen when you get a good group of kids and combine them with a great coach, e.g., Ethridge, Neumann, and Joseph.  Just enjoy the ride.  If it's not your turn, tip your cap to your neighbor and eventually the pendulum will swing back to your side.

[purpleeagle]

3 hours ago, bullets13 said:

PNG athletes (at this time) are still better, and more importantly, bigger, than what Nederland has.  Joseph made a difference there, but he came into a loaded program as well that pretty much everyone expected to show a lot of improvement.  He would not go to Nederland and turn them into state contenders in a year or two like he was able to do at PNG, although they would without a doubt improve.

I went to png and we did not have the numbers nor the size that png has now. Png won state because they had the size in the trenches that it takes to win. Nederland was small in the trenches. No one could have done any better last year. They  made the playoffs with a undersized team.