Kountze 62 Orangefield 53/FINAL

[AggiesAreWe]

4:55

52-41 Kountze

[AggiesAreWe]

3:26

55-46 Kountze

[AggiesAreWe]

1:31

57-48 Kountze

[AggiesAreWe]

Final

62-53 Kountze

[BBfan061]

Good luck Bobcats in the playoffs 

[Coach 01]

Good regular seasons for both teams, and 3 competitive games. Wrinkle played a heck of a game for Orangefield. He was doing everything to keep them within punching distance. This should be a fun series again next year. Good luck to both teams moving into the playoffs.

[CowboyJeffR]

I keep checking back on this thread to see if AAW posted the final stats so I could see what that free throw disparity was.

[AggiesAreWe]

4 minutes ago, CowboyJeffR said:

I keep checking back on this thread to see if AAW posted the final stats so I could see what that free throw disparity was.

Got to go get them out of my truck.

I'll post them in a few minutes,

[AggiesAreWe]

Final stats

FT

Kountze               13/17

Orangefield          5/9

3 point

Kountze             7/18

Orangefield       9/21

Rebounds

Kountze            30

Orangefield      26

Turnovers

Kountze            10

Orangefield       17

Fouls

Kountze             14

Orangefield       13

[AggiesAreWe]

In regards to the 3 point shooting. Kountze only attempted three 3 pointers in 2nd half after going 7/15 in first half. Orangefield was the opposite. They were 4/6 in first half but shot 5/15 in 2nd half. At one point Orangefield was 6/9 from three but then finished 3/12.

As for the FT shooting, Kountze made a decision in 2nd half to go to the rim and not take threes which drew more fouls, particularly in 4th Q. Plus Orangefield started fouling in 4th Q which put Kountze at the line. Kountze shot a total of 17 FT's for the game but 8 came late 3rd and all of 4th when Kountze started driving to basket.

Kountze ended up having one more foul than Orangefield.

[Coach 01]

Leading scorers for Kountze were Sells (20) Courts (10) Donald (8)

For Orangfield Wrinkle (19) Thomas (14) Scales (7)

[AggiesAreWe]

6 minutes ago, Coach 01 said:

Leading scorers for Kountze were Sells (20) Courts (10) Donald (8)

For Orangfield Wrinkle (19) Thomas (14) Scales (7)

Wrinkle had a very good game. He did everything he could to get his team back in it. Kid played his guts out.

Sells made the decision that his team wasn't losing this game and he played that way. 

Both teams were spent at the end of this one.

[mfd814]

@AggiesAreWe  Thank for the updates and stats,  you are appreciated.    
    Good game, playoff atmosphere.   Wrinkle had an awesome game, left everything on the court.    And he has good sportsmanship.  Really nice kid.   
   Sells was motivated for sure.  Kountze defended much better and drove to the basket more.    Kountze’s bench came up big as well. Good game to lead to playoffs for both teams.   

[CowboyJeffR]

2 hours ago, AggiesAreWe said:

FT

Kountze               13/17

Orangefield          5/9

That was the game in a nutshell IMO. Kountze was allowed to be so much more physical on Orangefield’s ball handlers, and especially so with Ghost, reaching and hand checking all the way down the court, getting into his body, and grabbing and holding him on every inbounds play. Whereas Sells lived at the line down the stretch. Several weak calls in the second half and OF wasn’t getting that same whistle.

[mfd814]

31 minutes ago, CowboyJeffR said:

That was the game in a nutshell IMO. Kountze was allowed to be so much more physical on Orangefield’s ball handlers, and especially so with Ghost, reaching and hand checking all the way down the court, getting into his body, and grabbing and holding him on every inbounds play. Whereas Sells lived at the line down the stretch. Several weak calls in the second half and OF wasn’t getting that same whistle.

Kountze felt that way in game 2 when Sells fouled out. 

Turnovers

Kountze            10

Orangefield       17

Fouls

Kountze             14

Orangefield       13

Fouls were about even.  And refs were not bad but did miss calls on both sides.  It came down to holding Scales to 7 points.  

[AggiesAreWe]

2 hours ago, CowboyJeffR said:

That was the game in a nutshell IMO. Kountze was allowed to be so much more physical on Orangefield’s ball handlers, and especially so with Ghost, reaching and hand checking all the way down the court, getting into his body, and grabbing and holding him on every inbounds play. Whereas Sells lived at the line down the stretch. Several weak calls in the second half and OF wasn’t getting that same whistle.

Shooting 8 more FT's is not the game in a nutshell.

Remember, 6 of those FT's were in the last 40 seconds of the game when Orangefield fouled 3 times to stop the clock.

Again, Kountze had 14 team fouls, Orangefield had 13 with 4 of those in last minute of the game.

[Cu Chulainn]

1 hour ago, mfd814 said:

Kountze felt that way in game 2 when Sells fouled out. 

Turnovers

Kountze            10

Orangefield       17

Fouls

Kountze             14

Orangefield       13

Fouls were about even.  And refs were not bad but did miss calls on both sides.  It came down to holding Scales to 7 points.  

It came down to fouling the heck out of Scales the entire game and he never getting even one attempt from the foul line. There were several calls that they made on the floor only because he finished what would have been an " And 1 Basket" or he passed it off which would have been an open layup. They made sure to take the points away! Those refs knew exactly what they were doing and it was obvious. Everyone can sit on here and act like they didnt see it because there are so many on here in love with Kountze basketball being good again regardless of how they got there, but anybody who really knows the game knows the truth.

Adults who cheat kids, are pieces of crap and are ruining the game!

Everyone is going to say, "The foul count was nearly even" - Think about it, Kountze presses and plays physical the entire game, the foul count shouldn't even be close and there will never be any logical reason that Kountze would have more free throw attempts than Orangefield!

Oh well, this is the path the good Lord wanted for us, so we will gladly take it! They did everything I said they would do, we just couldn't collect the fouls on them since the refs didnt call a fair game!

On to Woodville Tuesday night

 

 

[Cu Chulainn]

5 minutes ago, AggiesAreWe said:

Shooting 8 more FT's is not the game in a nutshell.

Remember, 6 of those FT's were in the last 40 seconds of the game when Orangefield fouled 3 times to stop the clock.

Again, Kountze had 14 team fouls, Orangefield had 13 with 4 of those in last minute of the game.

You were there, why do you tell it like you didnt see the truth? How many of those free throws were Sells? How many were Scales?

[Cu Chulainn]

In a 9 point game, 8 free throws is huge especially when your teams best free throw shooter gets probably 15 of those, while the other teams best free throw shooter gets zero attempts from the line. 

This crap isn't hard to figure out and we shouldn't make it that way!

Funny how folks get amnesia and only tell parts of what they saw last night.

[Cu Chulainn]

2 hours ago, CowboyJeffR said:

That was the game in a nutshell IMO. Kountze was allowed to be so much more physical on Orangefield’s ball handlers, and especially so with Ghost, reaching and hand checking all the way down the court, getting into his body, and grabbing and holding him on every inbounds play. Whereas Sells lived at the line down the stretch. Several weak calls in the second half and OF wasn’t getting that same whistle.

AMEN!

[AggiesAreWe]

1 minute ago, Cu Chulainn said:

You were there, why do you tell it like you didnt see the truth? How many of those free throws were Sells? How many were Scales?

I'm only speaking about the numbers. My opinion about game officiating doesn't matter.

The foul rule change has something to do with the fact that OF didn't go to the line as much. Now a team's foul count gets wiped clean after the first and third quarters where it used to just continue to add up. So basically the first half of the 2nd and 4th quarters are free to foul without sending a player to the line. Unless it's a shooting foul. 

The rule change helps a more aggressive team.

I would agree that the officiating allowed for a more aggressive style of play last night. For both sides.

Did the officials miss some calls? You bet. It happens every game I go too. 

But I don't think you can lay this game completely at the officials feet.

[Cu Chulainn]

6 minutes ago, AggiesAreWe said:

I'm only speaking about the numbers. My opinion about game officiating doesn't matter.

The foul rule change has something to do with the fact that OF didn't go to the line as much. Now a team's foul count gets wiped clean after the first and third quarters where it used to just continue to add up. So basically the first half of the 2nd and 4th quarters are free to foul without sending a player to the line. Unless it's a shooting foul. 

The rule change helps a more aggressive team.

I would agree that the officiating allowed for a more aggressive style of play last night. For both sides.

Did the officials miss some calls? You bet. It happens every game I go too. 

But I don't think you can lay this game completely at the officials feet.

How many free throws did Sells shoot?

How many free throws did Scales shoot?

[AggiesAreWe]

3 minutes ago, Cu Chulainn said:

How many free throws did Sells shoot?

How many free throws did Scales shoot?

I don't keep individual stats but I would say Sells had around 10 attempts.

Scales shot no FT attempts.

[setxathlete14]

Dang we should've posted something they could've hung in the locker room again

 

I'm only joking before too before receive a message on here lol 

[setxathlete14]

49 minutes ago, Cu Chulainn said:

In a 9 point game, 8 free throws is huge especially when your teams best free throw shooter gets probably 15 of those, while the other teams best free throw shooter gets zero attempts from the line. 

This crap isn't hard to figure out and we shouldn't make it that way!

Funny how folks get amnesia and only tell parts of what they saw last night.

Basketball officials always catch flak from either side. No matter what the outcome is.