Nederland ISD bond

[Bigdog]

This might be the wrong forum, if it is Coop please move it.  I just wanted to get everyones take on what they are proposing so far for this bond.

http://www.panews.com/local/local_story_330214613.html

http://www.panews.com/local/local_story_339210604.html

[KFDM COOP]

Neumann Wants it done.

[PURPLE 4EVER]

Nederland really needs to pass a bond for the far future....

Dayton failed to pass a bond in the mid 90's and the one that eventually passed was smaller.  The resulting high school is already overcrowded.

If the original bond would have been passed, the highschool would still be able to handle the number of students.

It is just hard to get people on fixed incomes to vote to raise their taxes which is really money out of their pockets that they won't get back.

GOOD LUCK NEDERLAND!!!!

Think of the kids now and the future kids when you vote.

You are investing in the future with a yes vote.

[Bigdog]

I agree Purple.  It works out to $35 a month increase for a 100K house.  Not too bad, but I understand that it would have more of an impact on people with a fixed income.

[SportsFanatic79]

Neumann Wants it done.

This bond issue is not about Neumann. It's about the furture of our school district and community.  I am a father of two young children and see on a daily basis the state our schools are in.

[tvc184]

I agree Purple.  It works out to $35 a month increase for a 100K house.  Not too bad, but I understand that it would have more of an impact on people with a fixed income.

Many taxing entities have exemptions for over age 65 and most people on fixed income are in that category. What are the tax exemptions at NISD, if any?

[Bigdog]

Yep.  I have family that works in the high school and co wilson.  CO got rid of the mold for a while after Rita, but its back thanks to those wonderful flat roofs that schools were built with back then.  The High Schools design was flawed from the start.

[Bigdog]

Many taxing entities have exemptions for over age 65 and most people on fixed income are in that category. What are the tax exemptions at NISD, if any?

Pretty much the same.  Over 65, Disabled Vets, etc. thier taxes are pretty much frozen.  Other home owners get a homestead exemption.

[3amagic]

It is just hard to get people on fixed incomes to vote to raise their taxes which is really money out of their pockets that they won't get back.

Not to start anything, but people on fixed incomes don't typically pay taxes.

[dme1111]

I would vote yes and gladly pay the extra tax to see our schools improved for the future. I have kids that are 5,3 and 1 and I think it would be great for them. I would also like to see a new stadium, though ours is not too bad.

[adminbaberuth]

I would vote yes and gladly pay the extra tax to see our schools improved for the future. I have kids that are 5,3 and 1 and I think it would be great for them. I would also like to see a new stadium, though ours is not too bad.

If we are to stay competitive with other schools in attracting the best students in the area, we must support the bond.

Looking at the tax rate currently http://www.co.jefferson.tx.us/taxoffice/Tax_Rates.htm, the tax will be something like $2870 on a $100,000 home in Nederland.

Quoting the Port Arthur News.  “ Considering all the work ahead of them, the question of how a bond would affect citizens arose. If the board passed a $100 million bond, the taxes on a $100,000 would be $420 a year, a business office employee saidâ€

[Bigdog]

I'm ready to see the full list of whats on the bond. 

[Bigdog]

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[Cardinal Supporter]

Not to start anything, but people on fixed incomes don't typically pay taxes.

My father was in his late 80's when he passed away. He paid taxes up until that time. He did not pay school taxes sometime after he was in his mid to late 60's. My wife and I are both on fixed income and are under 65. We pay taxes just like everyone else in Bridge City. We passed a bond and built a new high school and our school taxes went up and we have to pay them like everyone else. I am assuming you were talking about school taxes when you said you thought people on a fixed income did not pay taxes. You can be on a fixed income and be under 65 and still have to pay taxes. Being on a fixed income does not keep you from paying school taxes. It is the age that they look at I think. When I get to be 65 I will definitely look into it but that is still a few years away. Hope I helped.

[stangchain]

My parents are both in their 70's and they still pay property taxes....county, school, drainage district, etc.  I don't know where or why it started that people on a fixed income and/or retired or over a certain age don't pay property taxes.  My parents just paid their tax bill...over 3000.00.  Ridiculous!

[akifan94]

My parents are both in their 70's and they still pay property taxes....county, school, drainage district, etc.  I don't know where or why it started that people on a fixed income and/or retired or over a certain age don't pay property taxes.  My parents just paid their tax bill...over 3000.00.  Ridiculous!

If you are over 65 you get exemptions. I doubt that does away with the person paying taxes. My taxes were over 4,000 this year but I am under 65 by about 30+ years.

[Bigdog]

Only 30 years Aki? Getting up there hmmm.  ;D

Thats what I said.  Over 65 , Disabled vets, etc. taxes are frozen at a certain level, whatever is set by the appraisal district.  Others get a homestead exemption.

[akifan94]

Only 30 years Aki? Getting up there hmmm.  ;D

Thats what I said.  Over 65 , Disabled vets, etc. taxes are frozen at a certain level, whatever is set by the appraisal district.  Others get a homestead exemption.

31.. ;D ....Bigdog, I had heard Nederland was considering building a new football stadium near the high school. Is that part of the bond, or just a rumor?

[Bigdog]

31.. ;D ....Bigdog, I had heard Nederland was considering building a new football stadium near the high school. Is that part of the bond, or just a rumor?

Well don't feel bad, I'm closer to 65 than you are.    ...According to the preliminary reports, a stadium will be on the bond.  The final list probably won't be out until March or April.

[JoeBuck111]

Well don't feel bad, I'm closer to 65 than you are.    ...According to the preliminary reports, a stadium will be on the bond.  The final list probably won't be out until March or April.

What are they going to do, pick up the new 1,000,000.00  scoreboard and move it down the road.

[NedDog]

What are they going to do, pick up the new 1,000,000.00  scoreboard and move it down the road.

That's what I was wondering.  They better, if for no other reason than to keep all those high-dollar sponsors happy. 

[Bigdog]

Its just two or three steel beams mounted in concrete.  They can pick up with a crane and put on a flatbed and move it.  I see bigger stuff going down the highway all the time.

[Bigdog]

Here is the newest info on the NISD bond:

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It looks like somethings will be tabled till Phase 2 of the bond.

Opinions?

[Bigdog]

Looks like the bond is getting pretty close to finalized....

Published July 22, 2008 10:43 pm - Nederland ISD trustees gave their blessing to a $126 million master plan during Tuesday’s meeting.

NISD approves $126 million bond master plan

Mary Meaux

The Port Arthur News

NEDERLAND —

Nederland ISD trustees gave their blessing to a $126 million master plan during Tuesday’s meeting.

The next step, Superintendent Gail Krohn said, is to inform Lance Fox of Orgain, Bell and Tucker, L.L.P. the district’s bond council. Then the LanWalton Program Management firm will begin work on details regarding the bond.

But, Krohn added, the board only approved the plan and did not ask for the issue to go before the voters.

The plan, presented by LanWalton Project Manager J.P. Grom, calls for three new elementary schools, a new C.O. Wilson Middle School, heating, ventilation, air conditioning work for Central Middle School, main building modernization at Nederland High School, [glow=red,2,300]new press box and similar work at Bulldog Stadium, turf for the field, land purchase [/glow] and modifications to the alternative education.

Grom distributed a detailed, spiral bound booklet titled “Facilities Master Plan.†The glossy cover includes pictures of the district’s mascot, students and several of the district’s facilities.

Melissa Wong, business manager, said the district’s bonding capacity is higher then first thought. Officials had planned on a cap of $125 million for a bond and just recently heard their bonding capacity is near $150 million.

Grom also addressed a second phase to the bond and with the better bonding capacity, the district could conceivably return to voters in six years for additional funding for phase two.

[glow=red,2,300]Phase two would cover the district’s athletic needs and include a new athletic complex, natatorium, modifications to the boy’s baseball and girl’s softball fields, tennis court[/glow], new Central Middle School, modernization to the high school Career And Technology Education building, new administration building and Ag barn. Cost escalation to May 2009 puts phase two at $82 million. That figure jumps to $118.7 million in 2015 and $161.4 million in 2020.

[KFDM COOP]

Sounding Good.