hitman009 Posted April 26 Report Posted April 26 I could talk forever about this.. I have quite a bit of first hand knowledge about the way kids feel about this subject. I don't agree with the kids when they want to quit one sport to "focusing on one sport" but understand reasoning why they quit especially in JR. and SR. year... Keep these two things in mind. It you agree with these two statements then you can understand: Multi-sport kids should be pushed to play what they want to play... Kids should be never be mandated to play any sport.. All repercussions fall back on the AD... It's the AD's program. If they mandated it, the AD has to take responsibility.. even in accidents... Good AD's know how to navigate multi-sport kids. They inspire the want to play. Bad AD's do not and cause tension inside their entire athletic programs.. this is when you see kids that contribute in one sport quit usually after 10th grade year.. Really bad AD's have caused so much damage that the kid quits being a multi-sport athlete (quits football) after his 8th grade year. He never even gets to coach them in high school. Again I could get very specific but not gonna. PlayActionPass, bullets13, Mr. Buddy Garrity and 2 others 5 Quote
Unbelievableee Posted April 26 Report Posted April 26 Whew man! I guess kids should not run during athletics because they might pull a muscle or roll an ankle and be out of their in season sport. What a joke navydawg31 and PlayActionPass 2 Quote
bullets13 Posted April 26 Report Posted April 26 13 minutes ago, Unbelievableee said: Whew man! I guess kids should not run during athletics because they might pull a muscle or roll an ankle and be out of their in season sport. What a joke an intentionally dense oversimplification of the issue at hand. 409Teach, gogo173489 and navydawg31 3 Quote
89Falcon Posted April 27 Report Posted April 27 7 hours ago, hitman009 said: I could talk forever about this.. I have quite a bit of first hand knowledge about the way kids feel about this subject. I don't agree with the kids when they want to quit one sport to "focusing on one sport" but understand reasoning why they quit especially in JR. and SR. year... Keep these two things in mind. It you agree with these two statements then you can understand: Multi-sport kids should be pushed to play what they want to play... Kids should be never be mandated to play any sport.. All repercussions fall back on the AD... It's the AD's program. If they mandated it, the AD has to take responsibility.. even in accidents... Good AD's know how to navigate multi-sport kids. They inspire the want to play. Bad AD's do not and cause tension inside their entire athletic programs.. this is when you see kids that contribute in one sport quit usually after 10th grade year.. Really bad AD's have caused so much damage that the kid quits being a multi-sport athlete (quits football) after his 8th grade year. He never even gets to coach them in high school. Again I could get very specific but not gonna. Good ADs "win in football". Quote
outanup Posted April 27 Report Posted April 27 And why is it that AD's in our neck of the woods are HF coaches? Quote
89Falcon Posted April 27 Report Posted April 27 17 minutes ago, outanup said: And why is it that AD's in our neck of the woods are HF coaches? Because football is what matters most. outanup 1 Quote
Clueless Posted April 27 Report Posted April 27 Hate to tell everyone, but if your kid plays college baseball, he will be lifting weights in season and sometimes heavy. Also a lot of running. Carry on…. GoPro, outanup, Ty Cobb and 2 others 4 1 Quote
navydawg31 Posted April 27 Report Posted April 27 6 hours ago, TradenupBH said: Hate to tell everyone, but if your kid plays college baseball, he will be lifting weights in season and sometimes heavy. Also a lot of running. Carry on…. They ain’t ready for all that truth @TradenupBH PlayActionPass and Clueless 2 Quote
Bigdog Posted April 28 Report Posted April 28 On 4/26/2024 at 2:17 PM, bullets13 said: an intentionally dense oversimplification of the issue at hand. Not really, most of the people I played with were multi-sport athletes. This specialization stuff didn’t start until later. No one was blamed if someone got hurt in one sport and missed time in another. Life happens. Razor, Right99JOH and outanup 2 1 Quote
bullets13 Posted April 28 Report Posted April 28 28 minutes ago, Bigdog said: Not really, most of the people I played with were multi-sport athletes. This specialization stuff didn’t start until later. No one was blamed if someone got hurt in one sport and missed time in another. Life happens. That was in response to his assertion that athletes not be able to run because they might pull a muscle. Quote
Razor Posted April 28 Report Posted April 28 On 4/27/2024 at 4:05 PM, navydawg31 said: They ain’t ready for all that truth @TradenupBH No, they are not…this is the reality but doesn’t fit the narrative that has been created to “blame “ someone for what happened navydawg31 1 Quote
navydawg31 Posted April 29 Report Posted April 29 1 hour ago, Razor said: No, they are not…this is the reality but doesn’t fit the narrative that has been created to “blame “ someone for what happened BINGO! Quote
dayton Posted April 29 Report Posted April 29 On 4/26/2024 at 2:04 PM, Unbelievableee said: Whew man! I guess kids should not run during athletics because they might pull a muscle or roll an ankle and be out of their in season sport. What a joke Conditioning should be done by the coach that they are IN SEASON with. This is a simple concept that's missed by so many. Way too many kids are overworked these days. I don't really care what was done 20, 30 or 40 years ago. We know more now and should do better. And maybe kids were more durable in the past, but they also had a great foundation of manual labor, etc. And lifting... done right, should be done all year round. Dayton's S&C coordinator is top notch when it comes to putting this together. Quote
gogo173489 Posted April 29 Report Posted April 29 On 4/27/2024 at 9:06 AM, TradenupBH said: Hate to tell everyone, but if your kid plays college baseball, he will be lifting weights in season and sometimes heavy. Also a lot of running. Carry on…. Meh.. Everyone knows this. The kid that got injured wasn't lifting weights. Supposedly he was hit with a helmet in his elbow. In my opinion the kid shouldn't have been put in that situation. AD should've told the Varsity baseball players to sit that one out. I have no issues with the lifting or conditioning. However, anytime helmets/pads are on there is a higher risk of injury. This AD showed a total lack of respect for HIS baseball program. bullets13 and dayton 2 Quote
bullets13 Posted April 29 Report Posted April 29 On 4/27/2024 at 9:06 AM, TradenupBH said: Hate to tell everyone, but if your kid plays college baseball, he will be lifting weights in season and sometimes heavy. Also a lot of running. Carry on…. but will he be doing contact football drills mid-season? gogo173489 and dayton 2 Quote
SmashMouth Posted April 29 Report Posted April 29 1 hour ago, dayton said: Way too many kids are overworked these days. Can't really agree with this statement. gogo173489 1 Quote
prepballfan Posted April 29 Report Posted April 29 Prime example for a certain player a few years back named Preston Riggs for PNG perhaps the best receiver we have ever had. He was All State in Football, Baseball, and Soccer. Quote
Bigdog Posted April 29 Report Posted April 29 3 minutes ago, prepballfan said: Prime example for a certain player a few years back named Preston Riggs for PNG perhaps the best receiver we have ever had. He was All State in Football, Baseball, and Soccer. Yep, most of the people I played with were in at least three sports and we had to do track as well. Quote
dayton Posted April 29 Report Posted April 29 6 minutes ago, SmashMouth said: Can't really agree with this statement. No biggie. Kids doing an athletic period, after school lift/skills and then a third workout or practice 4/5 days a week is too much. There's just no way that an athlete performs THEIR BEST, under those circumstances. They're not machines and way too often, the driven kids that don't miss workouts, wind up injured. Quote
SmashMouth Posted April 29 Report Posted April 29 1 hour ago, gogo173489 said: Meh.. Everyone knows this. The kid that got injured wasn't lifting weights. Supposedly he was hit with a helmet in his elbow. In my opinion the kid shouldn't have been put in that situation. AD should've told the Varsity baseball players to sit that one out. I have no issues with the lifting or conditioning. However, anytime helmets/pads are on there is a higher risk of injury. This AD showed a total lack of respect for HIS baseball program. It's an unfortunate injury, but in my opinion, the athlete should participate in any and all activities required of the respective teams they play on, as long as physically able. Quote
hitman009 Posted April 29 Report Posted April 29 On 4/26/2024 at 2:04 PM, Unbelievableee said: Whew man! I guess kids should not run during athletics because they might pull a muscle or roll an ankle and be out of their in season sport. What a joke I was not talking about lifting and speed/agility drills... Every good coach in ANY sport should be doing this in season... We are talking about mandated SPORT participation in OFF SEASON... bullets13, gogo173489 and dayton 3 Quote
PhatMack19 Posted April 29 Report Posted April 29 On 4/27/2024 at 9:06 AM, TradenupBH said: Hate to tell everyone, but if your kid plays college baseball, he will be lifting weights in season and sometimes heavy. Also a lot of running. Carry on…. They lift around their baseball schedule. They don’t go heavy on game days or do shoulder workouts before they pitch that night. They damn sure aren’t tackling each other. gogo173489, dayton and bullets13 2 1 Quote
PhatMack19 Posted April 29 Report Posted April 29 17 hours ago, Bigdog said: Not really, most of the people I played with were multi-sport athletes. This specialization stuff didn’t start until later. No one was blamed if someone got hurt in one sport and missed time in another. Life happens. Getting hurt in another sport isn’t the problem. Getting hurt in offseason workouts in the middle of district is. He had surgery this morning and will probably miss football next season anyways. At least they got to workout in pads in April. dayton, bullets13 and gogo173489 2 1 Quote
hookem14 Posted April 29 Report Posted April 29 48 minutes ago, prepballfan said: Prime example for a certain player a few years back named Preston Riggs for PNG perhaps the best receiver we have ever had. He was All State in Football, Baseball, and Soccer. Preston Riggs did not play baseball. He was All-State in football, soccer, and track. Quote
hitman009 Posted April 29 Report Posted April 29 On 4/26/2024 at 8:37 PM, 89Falcon said: Because football is what matters most. And there it is...The exact reason of the decline of multi-sport kids. This statement is the reason why kids are "concentrating" on one sport.. When a multi-sport kid believes his AD thinks this way he believes his AD does not care about his dreams, his wants, his desires, his hard work he put into that other sport... and to make matters worse.. the kids who don't play football are telling the multi-sport kid.. "He does not care about us.. all he cares about is football." The multi-sport kid believe its not fair to them and the other kids on that team. Good AD's win by keeping the multi-sport kid in their program... They are usually the best athletes Good AD's understand the player, understand his dream, show up to their games in support, don't demean the other sport and don't blame their failures on the other sport. Quote
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