What has happened to Jasper?

[89Falcon]

12 minutes ago, AggiesAreWe said:

The thread question is about their overall athletic program. Not just football.

If? You talk as they will. Things are so much better.

Understood, as football goes, so goes the program. If football loses or becomes stagnant and mediocre, Jasper will find another AD. If football continues to go deep in the playoffs the AD will be celebrated (just like everywhere else). 

[AggiesAreWe]

33 minutes ago, 89Falcon said:

Understood, as football goes, so goes the program. If football loses or becomes stagnant and mediocre, Jasper will find another AD. If football continues to go deep in the playoffs the AD will be celebrated (just like everywhere else). 

I know a few local ISD's that have had the same AD for several years now and their football team is not the best sport in their school. Some would say they are less than mediocre.

[Bulldogs92]

We're in a tough spot because I believe the most successful days in football are still in front of Coach Crumedy. Short-term, difficult decisions are probably coming with some of these other coaches. Being the laughingstock of East Texas in every other sport is ridiculous,

[89Falcon]

9 hours ago, Bulldogs92 said:

We're in a tough spot because I believe the most successful days in football are still in front of Coach Crumedy. Short-term, difficult decisions are probably coming with some of these other coaches. Being the laughingstock of East Texas in every other sport is ridiculous,

It has been working in Newton.

[Bulldogs92]

3 hours ago, 89Falcon said:

It has been working in Newton.

If Crumedy eventually has bigger aspirations than being in Jasper, every aspect of the program will be looked at when someone interviews him for any job. He knows that. The mindset needs to be that any time someone wears a Jasper uniform, that they're doing everything they possibly can to win. It matters.

[89Falcon]

2 hours ago, Bulldogs92 said:

If Crumedy eventually has bigger aspirations than being in Jasper, every aspect of the program will be looked at when someone interviews him for any job. He knows that. The mindset needs to be that any time someone wears a Jasper uniform, that they're doing everything they possibly can to win. It matters.

No, if the football team makes deep runs and the track team stays competitive, he will have plenty of options. Have you ever watched a Gilmer basketball or baseball game?

[AHUDDLESTON]

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I don't understand why you keep comparing Jasper to those others.  The question was about for 10 years all teams had success now they don't. Compare Jasper to Jasper.

[89Falcon]

5 minutes ago, AHUDDLESTON said:

I don't understand why you keep comparing Jasper to those others.  The question was about for 10 years all teams had success now they don't. Compare Jasper to Jasper.

Not sure what you mean by "all teams had success"? Basketball is doing about like they always have, which is mediocre. Decent year then bad year like normal. (5 of the previous 8 seasons before Crumedy had losing records). Track is similar to normal. Baseball is down.  

One thing for certain is that they went farther than any previous team in football for the last 20 years. 

[AHUDDLESTON]

15 hours ago, 89Falcon said:

Not sure what you mean by "all teams had success"? Basketball is doing about like they always have, which is mediocre. Decent year then bad year like normal. (5 of the previous 8 seasons before Crumedy had losing records). Track is similar to normal. Baseball is down.  

One thing for certain is that they went farther than any previous team in football for the last 20 years. 

You have said that the playoffs equal success, so yeah they were very successful in making the playoffs. 

[Bulldogs92]

3 minutes ago, AHUDDLESTON said:

You have said that the playoffs equal success, so yeah they were very successful in making the playoffs. 

He didn't account for the '18 season that the Bulldogs were 12-1 and could have easily gone farther barring injuries to key players.

[89Falcon]

8 minutes ago, AHUDDLESTON said:

You have said that the playoffs equal success, so yeah they were very successful in making the playoffs. 

You mean “losing season success”? Yes they were very successful at having losing seasons in basketball. In the good years they were mediocre. Baseball is down. Track is the same. Football is better. 
 

The only thing that is worse than normal is baseball. I think the baseball coach is actually from the previous regime. 

[89Falcon]

8 minutes ago, Bulldogs92 said:

He didn't account for the '18 season that the Bulldogs were 12-1 and could have easily gone farther barring injuries to key players.

I accounted for it. They made it to the 3rd round. That is not the 4th round. Make sense?

[Bulldogs92]

4 hours ago, 89Falcon said:

I accounted for it. They made it to the 3rd round. That is not the 4th round. Make sense?

Don't do that. You know I'm not stupid.

[jdog90]

22 hours ago, AHUDDLESTON said:

I don't understand why you keep comparing Jasper to those others.  The question was about for 10 years all teams had success now they don't. Compare Jasper to Jasper.

This whole thread seems odd to me. We have a ex coach wanting someone to say they were better than what you have now. I think coach Crum is doing a outstanding job and definitely doing a better job of recruiting players to college than the last Regime.... But this is only my opinion

[89Falcon]

23 minutes ago, jdog90 said:

This whole thread seems odd to me. We have a ex coach wanting someone to say they were better than what you have now. I think coach Crum is doing a outstanding job and definitely going a better job of recruiting players to college than the last Regime.... But this is only my opinion

Yep, his feelings were hurt and he wants to try and detract from what is happening now. Needs to move on.

[AggiesAreWe]

1 hour ago, Bulldogs92 said:

Don't do that. You know I'm not stupid.

He thinks he is the only smart person on this site. Or at least the only one that knows better.

All because he is an assistant football coach at a local school. He knows all.

[AggiesAreWe]

30 minutes ago, jdog90 said:

This whole thread seems odd to me. We have a ex coach wanting someone to say they were better than what you have now. I think coach Crum is doing a outstanding job and definitely doing a better job of recruiting players to college than the last Regime.... But this is only my opinion

The question was about the other sports at Jasper. Nobody is questioning Crum and what he is doing with football and recruiting.

The question is why is the other 5 sports (volleyball, boys/girls basketball, baseball and softball) all of sudden gone to crap? Those sports were not this bad as a whole in the last several years. What has happened?

[jdog90]

5 minutes ago, AggiesAreWe said:

The question was about the other sports at Jasper. Nobody is questioning Crum and what he is doing with football and recruiting.

The question is why is the other 5 sports (volleyball, boys/girls basketball, baseball and softball) all of sudden gone to crap? Those sports were not this bad as a whole in the last several years. What has happened?

I understand the question, I just don't believe that is what it was intended for ( just my opinion again). Girls basketball have a new coach, softball has a new coach, not sure if any other sport had a new coach or not and baseball seemed to lack pitching this year.

[AggiesAreWe]

16 minutes ago, jdog90 said:

I understand the question, I just don't believe that is what it was intended for ( just my opinion again). Girls basketball have a new coach, softball has a new coach, not sure if any other sport had a new coach or not and baseball seemed to lack pitching this year.

That could be true. 

I honestly just wanted to know what happened. 

I also don't agree with saying the Jasper athletic program is better just because the football team had a good season and went one round further than those other teams the last 10 years. That doesn't necessarily equate to things being better overall. IMO

[jdog90]

17 minutes ago, AggiesAreWe said:

That could be true. 

I honestly just wanted to know what happened. 

I also don't agree with saying the Jasper athletic program is better just because the football team had a good season and went one round further than those other teams the last 10 years. That doesn't necessarily equate to things being better overall. IMO

I haven't heard anyone from Jasper complaining yet...

[AggiesAreWe]

6 minutes ago, jdog90 said:

I haven't heard anyone from Jasper complaining yet...

Well, I have.

Also, a Jasper alum has made comments on this thread stating he is not happy with what's going on.

But you are right, all that matters is if the Jasper folks are content.

[jdog90]

6 minutes ago, AggiesAreWe said:

Well, I have.

Also, a Jasper alum has made comments on this thread stating he is not happy with what's going on.

But you are right, all that matters is if the Jasper folks are content.

Not content but got to keep improving. Remember when Jasper beat silsbee in basketball playoff game? I do too, that's what we want again!!!!

[jdog90]

I will lurk back to the shadows and just post some scores as needed. LETS GO DOGS

[j_dog]

19 minutes ago, jdog90 said:

Not content but got to keep improving. Remember when Jasper beat silsbee in basketball playoff game? I do too, that's what we want again!!!!

When was the last time Jasper beat Silsbee in the basketball playoffs? I know it happened; I was there. But cannot remember the exact year. Long time ago!

[AggiesAreWe]

1 minute ago, j_dog said:

When was the last time Jasper beat Silsbee in the basketball playoffs? I know it happened; I was there. But cannot remember the exact year. Long time ago!

2009 regional semifinal

Very bad loss for Silsbee. Tigers beat Jasper earlier that year by 40.

BTW, that 2009 win was the last time Jasper beat Silsbee in basketball and one of only 5 wins in the all time series.