Why The Debate When The Parties Have Not Chosen Their Candidates?!

[CardinalBacker]

FWIW, not EVERYBODY was in favor of moving the decision to the states, lol. 
 

I’m telling you… this is the most sensible thing I’ve ever heard him say. And for those “I could never vote for someone who supports the murder of children” people…. Ya boi is down with it. 

[baddog]

20 minutes ago, CardinalBacker said:

There was a lot of chatter and i don’t remember the specifics. In my mind those Uber-progressive “restrictions” were either I response to, or the cause of, the hard push from the right to get Roe v Wade overturned.  
 

I liked the way that Trump framed his beliefs (exceptions to abortion bans for specified reasons… rape, incest, health of the mother).  His beliefs don’t line up with the radical right on the issue and for once it looked like he thought and tried to articulate his actual opinion instead of appeasing his followers. 
 

THAT dude would have more support. 

Those are the three reasons I would allow an abortion, even before Trump came along. 

[Englebert]

2 hours ago, CardinalBacker said:

And for what it’s worth, can we stop calling something we don’t agree with “a lie?”

That’s literally what people are doing now, media included. If Trump says “I don’t think climate change is that big of a deal, some tree hugger will yell “he’s a liar!” And the talking heads will put another tic mark on the lie list. I saw the other day where some jerk researched trump’s presidency and said “he averaged 21 lies per day.” I agree that he’s a liar, but come on… 21 per day? They’re like “…then Trump said Biden is doing a bad job… another lie.”

Good post. Was it drawn from guilt?

[Englebert]

9 hours ago, Boyz N Da Hood said:

Your on record saying trump doesn’t lie… etc no 1 takes u serious

I'm still waiting on that evidence or apology. I've been on the edge of my seat for 9 hours now. Can you give an estimate on when a reply might be forthcoming?

I'm new to this "civil" debating. I would normally attack when confronted with a post such as this. So forgive me for pressing for a civil response, which would be expected from a gentleman. I can't imagine the morality of someone that would attack and run. That would be just incomprehensible.

[mat]

Trump said a lot of things during the debate that are debatable or potential outright lies. But when he said, I never slept with a porn star, I almost choked. I thought he just blew all credibility. He could’ve just not replied, but couldn’t do it.

[baddog]

1 hour ago, mat said:

Trump said a lot of things during the debate that are debatable or potential outright lies. But when he said, I never slept with a porn star, I almost choked. I thought he just blew all credibility. He could’ve just not replied, but couldn’t do it.

Clinton didn’t have “sex” with Monica either. Lmao

[CardinalBacker]

41 minutes ago, baddog said:

Clinton didn’t have “sex” with Monica either. Lmao

Clinton lied… he admitted that he lied. We all know that he lies (or lied… who knows?).

 

On the other hand, Trump tells lie after lie, and his supporters are like “well, we all know that the economy wasn’t the best ever, but Trump just likes to exaggerate and use hyperbole.” Every single legal scholar was NOT in favor of returning abortion decisions back to the states. “Half of legal scholars” is probably a more accurate statement, but can’t be proven… but “all legal scholars” is instantly proven to be a lie.

For whoever keeps posting “what lies?”  
 

The biggest lie of all was that there was widespread election fraud. He still repeats it to this day when there has never been one shred of proof that election fraud occurred. Just because he (and most of you) believe in it as much as you believe that Jesus Christ died for our sins doesn’t make it true. 
 

The actual truth is that the economy was doing pretty good during the first part of Trump’s administration, even if it was unsustainable because of ballooning deficits/debt. But the. COVID happened on his watch…. And as much as y’all would like to blame it on democrat governors for shutting down their states… most governors are Republican AND they couldn’t have shut things down if trump wasn’t signing spending bills that gave out trillions frivolously. Even if you want to blame everyone else, then you have to admit that trump was powerless to stop it from happening. 
 

[baddog]

32 minutes ago, CardinalBacker said:

Clinton lied… he admitted that he lied. We all know that he lies (or lied… who knows?).

 

On the other hand, Trump tells lie after lie, and his supporters are like “well, we all know that the economy wasn’t the best ever, but Trump just likes to exaggerate and use hyperbole.” Every single legal scholar was NOT in favor of returning abortion decisions back to the states. “Half of legal scholars” is probably a more accurate statement, but can’t be proven… but “all legal scholars” is instantly proven to be a lie.

For whoever keeps posting “what lies?”  
 

The biggest lie of all was that there was widespread election fraud. He still repeats it to this day when there has never been one shred of proof that election fraud occurred. Just because he (and most of you) believe in it as much as you believe that Jesus Christ died for our sins doesn’t make it true. 
 

The actual truth is that the economy was doing pretty good during the first part of Trump’s administration, even if it was unsustainable because of ballooning deficits/debt. But the. COVID happened on his watch…. And as much as y’all would like to blame it on democrat governors for shutting down their states… most governors are Republican AND they couldn’t have shut things down if trump wasn’t signing spending bills that gave out trillions frivolously. Even if you want to blame everyone else, then you have to admit that trump was powerless to stop it from happening. 
 

Dude, just cracking a joke, hence the lmao. I do think it funny how Trump (before being president) gets crucified for having sex with a porn star, but Clinton (as a sitting president) gets a free ride having sex with Monica in the Oval Office.

”On the other hand”

[CardinalBacker]

12 minutes ago, baddog said:

Dude, just cracking a joke, hence the lmao. I do think it funny how Trump (before being president) gets crucified for having sex with a porn star, but Clinton (as a sitting president) gets a free ride having sex with Monica in the Oval Office.

”On the other hand”

Free ride? They impeached him for lying about it! At one point they were taking pictures of his genitals as evidence in different proceedings. The Dems might have given him the same pass that the Rs are giving to Trump, but a Clinton didn’t get a free ride. 
 

But you do have to wonder why Trump didn’t get up at his hush money trial and convince the jury that he’d “never had sex with that woman… Miss Daniels.”

 

Because he wasn’t about to perjure himself. I’m confident that, much like Lewinsky, Daniels had proof of her encounter with Trump. 

[CardinalBacker]

Here’s the bigger problem, as I see it. Trump didn’t look great at that debate, either, but the optics were heavily in his favor because Biden did HORRIBLE. Does anybody on the right want to see President Newsome? Because he’s up by somewhere near 15 points over Trump in current polling. 
 

Biden may be terrible, but the majority of Americans don’t want Trump. If there’s an option that isn’t Biden, Trump is in big trouble. 
 

I was astounded that 33% of people polled felt like Biden won the debate.  I was like “what the hell were you watching,” then I had a little bit of a revelation. Somebody on X (formerly known as Twitter) tweeted that they would “vote for Biden’s head in a jar” before they’d ever vote for Trump. If the Ds give people an option, they’re gonna take it. It’s a long ways to November. 

[LumRaiderFan]

In November there are two choices, plain and simple.

[tvc184]

2 minutes ago, LumRaiderFan said:

In November there are two choices, plain and simple.

Trump and a player to be named later. 

[LumRaiderFan]

Just now, tvc184 said:

Trump and a player to be named later. 

Agree, and the player to be named later will most certainly be as bad for the country as Biden.

[Mr. Buddy Garrity]

42 minutes ago, CardinalBacker said:

Here’s the bigger problem, as I see it. Trump didn’t look great at that debate, either, but the optics were heavily in his favor because Biden did HORRIBLE. Does anybody on the right want to see President Newsome? Because he’s up by somewhere near 15 points over Trump in current polling. 
 

Biden may be terrible, but the majority of Americans don’t want Trump. If there’s an option that isn’t Biden, Trump is in big trouble. 
 

I was astounded that 33% of people polled felt like Biden won the debate.  I was like “what the hell were you watching,” then I had a little bit of a revelation. Somebody on X (formerly known as Twitter) tweeted that they would “vote for Biden’s head in a jar” before they’d ever vote for Trump. If the Ds give people an option, they’re gonna take it. It’s a long ways to November. 

We don't agree much, but when you're spot-on I have to acknowledge it as always. 

 

And those 33% are dummies. 

 

2 dummies/old geezer arses running for President, hopefully 2028 will be better. 🤷🏾‍♂️

[Big girl]

1 hour ago, baddog said:

Dude, just cracking a joke, hence the lmao. I do think it funny how Trump (before being president) gets crucified for having sex with a porn star, but Clinton (as a sitting president) gets a free ride having sex with Monica in the Oval Office.

”On the other hand”

Free ride? He was impeached

[baddog]

8 minutes ago, Big girl said:

Free ride? He was impeached

How did that affect him? Like I said, free ride. Trump had to go to court on falsified criminal charges of which no one can come up with a felony. Did Clinton answer to criminal charges? Free ride.

[Big girl]

22 hours ago, Englebert said:

You do not have a degree in neurology and are not a certified neurologist. You do not know all of the systems and factors that end stage dementia includes. Just like those you disparage, you are not qualified to make that assessment. You should now apologize for calling me confused. That was a personal attack. You need to watch your language.

I accept your first apology. I await the second.

Apparently, you don't know the role of a RN. We can't make a diagnosis, but we have to make a care plan so we know what abnormal findings we have to report to the doctor,  and we have to intervene accordingly.We look for signs and symptoms

A patient bled excessively during surgery and was given 2 units of blood. So, I know that she is at risk for further bleeding. How do I know if she is bleeding

1. Increased heart rate

2. Decreased urine output 

3. Low blood pressure

These are a few of the things that I monitor.

[Big girl]

6 minutes ago, baddog said:

How did that affect him? Like I said, free ride. Trump had to go to court on falsified criminal charges of which no one can come up with a felony. Did Clinton answer to criminal charges? Free ride.

Clinton didn't pay off  Monica using campaign funds, either. So, no he didnt face criminal charges. And Clinton knew he needed to shut up and apologize, he wasn't constantly antagonizing people.

[CardinalBacker]

35 minutes ago, LumRaiderFan said:

Agree, and the player to be named later will most certainly be as bad for the country as Biden.

Yep.., and republicans will be handing him/her the presidency on a silver platter by nominating Trump, who we already know can’t beat anybody. 

[LumRaiderFan]

Just now, CardinalBacker said:

Yep.., and republicans will be handing him/her the presidency on a silver platter by nominating Trump, who we already know can’t beat anybody. 

We’ll see, until then, you continue making various three paragraph posts about how bad Trump will lose.

It’s very entertaining.

[Englebert]

1 hour ago, Big girl said:

Apparently, you don't know the role of a RN. We can't make a diagnosis, but we have to make a care plan so we know what abnormal findings we have to report to the doctor,  and we have to intervene accordingly.We look for signs and symptoms

A patient bled excessively during surgery and was given 2 units of blood. So, I know that she is at risk for further bleeding. How do I know if she is bleeding

1. Increased heart rate

2. Decreased urine output 

3. Low blood pressure

These are a few of the things that I monitor.

You need to go back and read your own posts. I am expecting that second apology.

[Englebert]

3 hours ago, CardinalBacker said:

Clinton lied… he admitted that he lied. We all know that he lies (or lied… who knows?).

 

On the other hand, Trump tells lie after lie, and his supporters are like “well, we all know that the economy wasn’t the best ever, but Trump just likes to exaggerate and use hyperbole.” Every single legal scholar was NOT in favor of returning abortion decisions back to the states. “Half of legal scholars” is probably a more accurate statement, but can’t be proven… but “all legal scholars” is instantly proven to be a lie.

For whoever keeps posting “what lies?”  
 

The biggest lie of all was that there was widespread election fraud. He still repeats it to this day when there has never been one shred of proof that election fraud occurred. Just because he (and most of you) believe in it as much as you believe that Jesus Christ died for our sins doesn’t make it true. 
 

The actual truth is that the economy was doing pretty good during the first part of Trump’s administration, even if it was unsustainable because of ballooning deficits/debt. But the. COVID happened on his watch…. And as much as y’all would like to blame it on democrat governors for shutting down their states… most governors are Republican AND they couldn’t have shut things down if trump wasn’t signing spending bills that gave out trillions frivolously. Even if you want to blame everyone else, then you have to admit that trump was powerless to stop it from happening. 
 

This whole post is full of lies. Birds of a feather! You are livid at a man for doing the same exact thing you do. How funny.

[Reagan]

 

It's bad when the moderator has to help out the leader of the free world!  

[baddog]

1 hour ago, Big girl said:

Clinton didn't pay off  Monica using campaign funds, either. So, no he didnt face criminal charges. And Clinton knew he needed to shut up and apologize, he wasn't constantly antagonizing people.

Trump is a billionaire. Why would he need to use campaign funds to pay off a measly $130,000? That’s pocket change. Use your head for something besides a hat rack.

Using liberal logic and beginning my question with…..so….so you’re saying if Trump apologized, everything would be hunky dory?

[CardinalBacker]

36 minutes ago, baddog said:

Trump is a billionaire. Why would he need to use campaign funds to pay off a measly $130,000? That’s pocket change. Use your head for something besides a hat rack.

Using liberal logic and beginning my question with…..so….so you’re saying if Trump apologized, everything would be hunky dory?

Because legal fees paid to an attorney are tax deductible, and hush money payments are not. 
 

But since Trump didn’t keep legitimate financial records, no one knows where the money paid to Stormy originated. 
 

Once again, campaign contributions have to be spent and documented in a particular manner…. IF trump used campaign funds to pay off an individual, this campaign finance reports HAVE TO reflect that. It’s federal law.