CardinalBacker Posted August 4, 2024 Report Posted August 4, 2024 By definition, if one person receives a job because of their skin color, then another person is losing out because of their skin color. It was wrong when applicants were excluded because of race decades ago, and its wrong when it happens today… renaming racism as “affirmative action” or “DEI” doesn’t change the fact that it’s still just racism. Quote
BS Wildcats Posted August 4, 2024 Report Posted August 4, 2024 On 8/4/2024 at 1:00 AM, CardinalBacker said: By definition, if one person receives a job because of their skin color, then another person is losing out because of their skin color. It was wrong when applicants were excluded because of race decades ago, and its wrong when it happens today… renaming racism as “affirmative action” or “DEI” doesn’t change the fact that it’s still just racism. Expand Damn, something we can agree on Quote
CardinalBacker Posted August 4, 2024 Report Posted August 4, 2024 On 8/4/2024 at 1:37 PM, BS Wildcats said: Damn, something we can agree on Expand This is the first time you’ve been right on an issue, lol. thetragichippy 1 Quote
BS Wildcats Posted August 4, 2024 Report Posted August 4, 2024 On 8/4/2024 at 2:40 PM, CardinalBacker said: This is the first time you’ve been right on an issue, lol. Expand Debatable😏 CardinalBacker 1 Quote
Big girl Posted August 4, 2024 Author Report Posted August 4, 2024 On 8/4/2024 at 12:16 AM, Englebert said: That is the absolute opposite of what DEI is. You can't get more opposite than that. DEI promotes biased hiring decisions. PERIOD! The only question is if affirmative action hiring is justified based on passed sins, or is it really racism that should be abolished. Expand Nope, it doesn't. The classes I take help me to give unbiased medical care. It is sad that you think that a woman or a minority in a position of power has to be a "DEI" hire. Quote
Englebert Posted August 4, 2024 Report Posted August 4, 2024 On 8/4/2024 at 4:52 PM, Big girl said: Nope, it doesn't. The classes I take help me to give unbiased medical care. It is sad that you think that a woman or a minority in a position of power has to be a "DEI" hire. Expand It is sad that you think that is what I said. Maybe you need to take some "real" classes and quit trying to promote bigotry and racism. Quote
Reagan Posted August 4, 2024 Report Posted August 4, 2024 On 8/4/2024 at 4:52 PM, Big girl said: Nope, it doesn't. The classes I take help me to give unbiased medical care. It is sad that you think that a woman or a minority in a position of power has to be a "DEI" hire. Expand It's not an opinion. There's reasons for making such DEI statements. Would you really want a DEI hire to be a pilot or brain surgeon? Like, maybe, piloting a plane you are on or operating on your brain! Quote
BS Wildcats Posted August 4, 2024 Report Posted August 4, 2024 On 8/4/2024 at 4:52 PM, Big girl said: Nope, it doesn't. The classes I take help me to give unbiased medical care. It is sad that you think that a woman or a minority in a position of power has to be a "DEI" hire. Expand Kamala=DEI hire, biden said he was doing it. There is no denying it. It is a shame you have to take classes to provide unbiased care. That should be part of your ethics as a medical professional! Quote
Big girl Posted August 4, 2024 Author Report Posted August 4, 2024 On 8/4/2024 at 7:04 PM, BS Wildcats said: Kamala=DEI hire, biden said he was doing it. There is no denying it. It is a shame you have to take classes to provide unbiased care. That should be part of your ethics as a medical professional! Expand You are wrong Quote
BS Wildcats Posted August 4, 2024 Report Posted August 4, 2024 On 8/4/2024 at 7:05 PM, Big girl said: You are wrong Expand Tell me how? Quote
Big girl Posted August 4, 2024 Author Report Posted August 4, 2024 On 8/4/2024 at 7:08 PM, Big girl said: It doesn't matter so why did Trump mention it Expand On 8/4/2024 at 10:24 PM, BS Wildcats said: Tell me how? Expand Look at her qualifications. DA, state attorney general, and Senator. She is qualified. Quote
Big girl Posted August 4, 2024 Author Report Posted August 4, 2024 On 8/4/2024 at 7:04 PM, BS Wildcats said: Kamala=DEI hire, biden said he was doing it. There is no denying it. It is a shame you have to take classes to provide unbiased care. That should be part of your ethics as a medical professional! Expand Everyone takes the classes where I work. Some people have subconscious biases, that is why the classes are needed. Quote
BS Wildcats Posted August 4, 2024 Report Posted August 4, 2024 On 8/4/2024 at 11:54 PM, Big girl said: Look at her qualifications. DA, state attorney general, and Senator. She is qualified. Expand That is not why she was chosen as VP. Nice try. If you listen to talk very much, it will not take a normal person to know that is no where near qualified. Answer the question that posed, don’t avoid it. Quote
BS Wildcats Posted August 4, 2024 Report Posted August 4, 2024 On 8/4/2024 at 11:55 PM, Big girl said: Everyone takes the classes where I work. Some people have subconscious biases, that is why the classes are needed. Expand Sounds like your place of employment has some problems with personnel. Quote
Reagan Posted August 5, 2024 Report Posted August 5, 2024 On 8/4/2024 at 11:55 PM, Big girl said: Everyone takes the classes where I work. Some people have subconscious biases, that is why the classes are needed. Expand Where you work, does this business promote DEI? Quote
CardinalBacker Posted August 5, 2024 Report Posted August 5, 2024 On 8/4/2024 at 11:54 PM, Big girl said: Look at her qualifications. DA, state attorney general, and Senator. She is qualified. Expand I disagree with you on this one. Joe Biden stated that he was going to select his VP from a pool of candidates, all of whom were women of color. That’s a textbook DEI hire. If a decision is made to select a candidate, and one of the qualifiers for the position is their race… they were hired because of their race, and other people got passed over because of their race. Honest question, that I’m scared I already know your answer. Do you think it’s okay to fill a position with a candidate who specifically fits certain racial or gender criteria? Like in this instance, where Biden stated loudly that his VP would be both of those things… female and minority. Quote
thetragichippy Posted August 5, 2024 Report Posted August 5, 2024 On 8/4/2024 at 4:52 PM, Big girl said: The classes I take help me to give unbiased medical care. Expand As a former medic that worked for an Ambulance service for 8 years in Port Arthur, it's disturbing, more bluntly, disgusting that you have to take a class to give unbiased care. LumRaiderFan 1 Quote
baddog Posted August 5, 2024 Report Posted August 5, 2024 On 8/5/2024 at 2:55 PM, thetragichippy said: As a former medic that worked for an Ambulance service for 8 years in Port Arthur, it's disturbing, more bluntly, disgusting that you have to take a class to give unbiased care. Expand Lmao. Her classes delve into the subconscious. Quote
Big girl Posted August 5, 2024 Author Report Posted August 5, 2024 On 8/4/2024 at 11:57 PM, BS Wildcats said: Sounds like your place of employment has some problems with personnel. Expand Nope. They want to make sure we don't have any biased opinions. New hires are required to take the classes; as well. Quote
baddog Posted August 5, 2024 Report Posted August 5, 2024 Taking classes doesn’t erase bias. It simply makes one aware. Kinda like teaching you English and spelling but you still can’t spell, and a diploma that says you can. BS Wildcats 1 Quote
Englebert Posted August 6, 2024 Report Posted August 6, 2024 On 8/5/2024 at 11:34 PM, Big girl said: Nope. They want to make sure we don't have any biased opinions. New hires are required to take the classes; as well. Expand Do they teach you about the unconscious biases, bigotry, and racism ingrained in minorities? I'm guessing you are taught the regular negative stereotypes that only White people possess these immeasurable biases. How does learning these "theories" enable you to perform your job at a higher level? Be specific. Use real life examples if you have them. Also, please explain how you are a better person for being taught DEI? Quote
Big girl Posted August 7, 2024 Author Report Posted August 7, 2024 On 8/6/2024 at 12:15 AM, Englebert said: Do they teach you about the unconscious biases, bigotry, and racism ingrained in minorities? I'm guessing you are taught the regular negative stereotypes that only White people possess these immeasurable biases. How does learning these "theories" enable you to perform your job at a higher level? Be specific. Use real life examples if you have them. Also, please explain how you are a better person for being taught DEI? Expand I already did. Look at my previous posts. Quote
SmashMouth Posted August 7, 2024 Report Posted August 7, 2024 On 8/3/2024 at 11:09 PM, Big girl said: DEI promotes unbiased hiring decisions. That's it in a nutshell. Expand DEI is the epitome of biased hiring ma'am. Reagan 1 Quote
SmashMouth Posted August 7, 2024 Report Posted August 7, 2024 On 8/4/2024 at 11:54 PM, Big girl said: Look at her qualifications. DA, state attorney general, and Senator. She is qualified. Expand You left off Ho. Quote
LumRaiderFan Posted August 7, 2024 Report Posted August 7, 2024 On 8/7/2024 at 4:38 PM, SmashMouth said: You left off Ho. Expand That should actually be the first qualification listed, it allowed all the others to happen. I understand that sounds rude and crude, but folks need to know how this woman got to where she is, by volunteering to be arm candy to a 60 year old powerful politician as a 29 year old up and comer. Quote
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