Bobcat1 Posted September 5 Report Posted September 5 It's both fascinating and concerning how many Republicans, including former advisors and Trump appointees, have voiced their opposition to Trump running again. What’s surprising is why more Republicans don’t seem alarmed by this. Mike Pence - The former VP has made it clear that he will not endorse or vote for Donald Trump in the 2024 election Liz Cheney – The former congresswoman, known for her staunchly conservative voting record, has been a leading critic of Trump since the January 6th insurrection and has stated she will vote for Kamala Harris. Mitt Romney – The Utah senator has repeatedly voiced his opposition to Trump, calling him unfit for office. Adam Kinzinger – Former Illinois congressman and one of the few Republicans who voted to impeach Trump, Kinzinger has been vocal about the need for the party to move beyond Trump. Pat Toomey – The former Pennsylvania senator announced that he could not support Trump, citing the former president's attempts to overturn the 2020 election results. John Kasich – The former Ohio governor and 2016 presidential candidate has long been critical of Trump’s influence on the GOP. Susan Collins – The Maine senator has refused to endorse Trump, distancing herself from his candidacy. Bill Cassidy – The Louisiana senator, who voted to convict Trump in his second impeachment trial, has said he won't support his 2024 bid. Larry Hogan – The former governor of Maryland has consistently expressed concerns over Trump’s impact on the Republican Party. Jeff Flake – A former senator from Arizona, Flake has encouraged Republicans to move on from Trump. Bob Corker – Former Tennessee senator and frequent Trump critic, Corker believes Trump is a divisive figure within the party. John Bolton - Former national security adviser to Donald Trump, has made it clear that he will not be voting for Trump in the 2024 election. In a surprising twist, Bolton revealed that in 2020, he wrote in Dick Cheney on his ballot and plans to do so again in 2024. Bolton has expressed deep concerns over Trump’s leadership, calling his 2024 campaign "poison" for the GOP and advocating for alternative conservative leadership There is more, but I'd love to understand why this doesn't alarm any one planning on voting for Trump in 2024. Quote
HuntersLaptop2028 Posted September 5 Report Posted September 5 Everyone who speaks out against trump, is apparently a RINO. Trump is the only -real- republican, and he’s the only person who can fix this miss. He had 4 years, but he really needs 4 more. Trust him this time. bullets13 and UT alum 1 1 Quote
UT alum Posted September 5 Report Posted September 5 2 hours ago, Bobcat1 said: It's both fascinating and concerning how many Republicans, including former advisors and Trump appointees, have voiced their opposition to Trump running again. What’s surprising is why more Republicans don’t seem alarmed by this. Mike Pence - The former VP has made it clear that he will not endorse or vote for Donald Trump in the 2024 election Liz Cheney – The former congresswoman, known for her staunchly conservative voting record, has been a leading critic of Trump since the January 6th insurrection and has stated she will vote for Kamala Harris. Mitt Romney – The Utah senator has repeatedly voiced his opposition to Trump, calling him unfit for office. Adam Kinzinger – Former Illinois congressman and one of the few Republicans who voted to impeach Trump, Kinzinger has been vocal about the need for the party to move beyond Trump. Pat Toomey – The former Pennsylvania senator announced that he could not support Trump, citing the former president's attempts to overturn the 2020 election results. John Kasich – The former Ohio governor and 2016 presidential candidate has long been critical of Trump’s influence on the GOP. Susan Collins – The Maine senator has refused to endorse Trump, distancing herself from his candidacy. Bill Cassidy – The Louisiana senator, who voted to convict Trump in his second impeachment trial, has said he won't support his 2024 bid. Larry Hogan – The former governor of Maryland has consistently expressed concerns over Trump’s impact on the Republican Party. Jeff Flake – A former senator from Arizona, Flake has encouraged Republicans to move on from Trump. Bob Corker – Former Tennessee senator and frequent Trump critic, Corker believes Trump is a divisive figure within the party. John Bolton - Former national security adviser to Donald Trump, has made it clear that he will not be voting for Trump in the 2024 election. In a surprising twist, Bolton revealed that in 2020, he wrote in Dick Cheney on his ballot and plans to do so again in 2024. Bolton has expressed deep concerns over Trump’s leadership, calling his 2024 campaign "poison" for the GOP and advocating for alternative conservative leadership There is more, but I'd love to understand why this doesn't alarm any one planning on voting for Trump in 2024. Good point. I think as many as 40-45 ex staffers and cabinet members have voiced their opposition to his candidacy. Why do you find it surprising that any of his supporters would be alarmed at anything pertaining to him? The true believers see Trump as infallible. Quote
baddog Posted September 5 Report Posted September 5 Hey everybody, here’s 10 people not voting for Trump. Let’s panic now. Where do they vote….D.C.? Is that gonna make any difference? Quote
LumRaiderFan Posted September 6 Report Posted September 6 Wow, the swamps not voting for Trump, lol. Quote
LumRaiderFan Posted September 6 Report Posted September 6 5 hours ago, baddog said: Hey everybody, here’s 10 people not voting for Trump. Let’s panic now. Where do they vote….D.C.? Is that gonna make any difference? lol, just one more dumb anti Trump thread. It seems they’re not so sure he will lose anymore. Quote
Bobcat1 Posted September 6 Author Report Posted September 6 9 hours ago, LumRaiderFan said: Wow, the swamps not voting for Trump, lol. I thought Trump drained the swamp and his admin was "swamp free"? People he appointed are warning American's to NOT vote for him because they know how awful he is. But now they're Swamp Monsters now that they do not ride the do not ride the Trump Train - Makes sense. Quote
Reagan Posted September 6 Report Posted September 6 On 9/5/2024 at 12:47 PM, Bobcat1 said: It's both fascinating and concerning how many Republicans, including former advisors and Trump appointees, have voiced their opposition to Trump running again. What’s surprising is why more Republicans don’t seem alarmed by this. Mike Pence - The former VP has made it clear that he will not endorse or vote for Donald Trump in the 2024 election Liz Cheney – The former congresswoman, known for her staunchly conservative voting record, has been a leading critic of Trump since the January 6th insurrection and has stated she will vote for Kamala Harris. Mitt Romney – The Utah senator has repeatedly voiced his opposition to Trump, calling him unfit for office. Adam Kinzinger – Former Illinois congressman and one of the few Republicans who voted to impeach Trump, Kinzinger has been vocal about the need for the party to move beyond Trump. Pat Toomey – The former Pennsylvania senator announced that he could not support Trump, citing the former president's attempts to overturn the 2020 election results. John Kasich – The former Ohio governor and 2016 presidential candidate has long been critical of Trump’s influence on the GOP. Susan Collins – The Maine senator has refused to endorse Trump, distancing herself from his candidacy. Bill Cassidy – The Louisiana senator, who voted to convict Trump in his second impeachment trial, has said he won't support his 2024 bid. Larry Hogan – The former governor of Maryland has consistently expressed concerns over Trump’s impact on the Republican Party. Jeff Flake – A former senator from Arizona, Flake has encouraged Republicans to move on from Trump. Bob Corker – Former Tennessee senator and frequent Trump critic, Corker believes Trump is a divisive figure within the party. John Bolton - Former national security adviser to Donald Trump, has made it clear that he will not be voting for Trump in the 2024 election. In a surprising twist, Bolton revealed that in 2020, he wrote in Dick Cheney on his ballot and plans to do so again in 2024. Bolton has expressed deep concerns over Trump’s leadership, calling his 2024 campaign "poison" for the GOP and advocating for alternative conservative leadership There is more, but I'd love to understand why this doesn't alarm any one planning on voting for Trump in 2024. @UT alum @CardinalBacker Quote
CardinalBacker Posted September 6 Report Posted September 6 I’d like to take this time to reiterate what I said at least two years ago. If trump announces he’s running again in ‘24, the Dems win. Period. Vote for four years of anger, hate, rage, and deficit spending… vote Trump. Quote
UT alum Posted September 6 Report Posted September 6 4 hours ago, Reagan said: @UT alum @CardinalBacker I wouldn’t give James Woods the time of day Quote
5GallonBucket Posted September 7 Report Posted September 7 2 hours ago, CardinalBacker said: I’d like to take this time to reiterate what I said at least two years ago. If trump announces he’s running again in ‘24, the Dems win. Period. Vote for four years of anger, hate, rage, and deficit spending… vote Trump. Isn’t that the same as liberals just in disguise. Quote
Bobcat1 Posted September 7 Author Report Posted September 7 Dick Cheney - Former VP “In our nation’s 248-year history, there has never been an individual who is a greater threat to our republic than Donald Trump,” Cheney said in a statement. “He tried to steal the last election using lies and violence to keep himself in power after the voters had rejected him. He can never be trusted with power again.” “As citizens, we each have a duty to put country above partisanship to defend our Constitution. That is why I will be casting my vote for Vice President Kamala Harris,” he conclude. Quote
LumRaiderFan Posted September 7 Report Posted September 7 14 minutes ago, Bobcat1 said: Dick Cheney - Former VP “In our nation’s 248-year history, there has never been an individual who is a greater threat to our republic than Donald Trump,” Cheney said in a statement. “He tried to steal the last election using lies and violence to keep himself in power after the voters had rejected him. He can never be trusted with power again.” “As citizens, we each have a duty to put country above partisanship to defend our Constitution. That is why I will be casting my vote for Vice President Kamala Harris,” he conclude. Cheney should have added that he can’t support a President that won’t have us in several wars simultaneously. Cheney is the epitome of the swamp so of course, he’s voting for Harris. Reagan 1 Quote
Bobcat1 Posted September 7 Author Report Posted September 7 1 hour ago, LumRaiderFan said: Cheney should have added that he can’t support a President that won’t have us in several wars simultaneously. Cheney is the epitome of the swamp so of course, he’s voting for Harris. His budget as Sec of Defense says otherwise - He proposed cutting the budget tremendously even when congress appropriated funds for programs, he did not use them and then cut the programs completely. He proposed cutting the size of the military from 2.2M to 1.6M and eventually got it down to 1.8M. Quote
LumRaiderFan Posted September 7 Report Posted September 7 16 minutes ago, Bobcat1 said: His budget as Sec of Defense says otherwise - He proposed cutting the budget tremendously even when congress appropriated funds for programs, he did not use them and then cut the programs completely. He proposed cutting the size of the military from 2.2M to 1.6M and eventually got it down to 1.8M. All while engaging in multiple wars, there are stats and then there’s reality. Just take a look at Bush’s spending. Quote
Reagan Posted September 7 Report Posted September 7 4 hours ago, Bobcat1 said: His budget as Sec of Defense says otherwise - He proposed cutting the budget tremendously even when congress appropriated funds for programs, he did not use them and then cut the programs completely. He proposed cutting the size of the military from 2.2M to 1.6M and eventually got it down to 1.8M. If any of you libs really are interested, find out how much of that iraqi war money ended up in Dick's pocket! Then you may have some answers. But, like it says here -- you libs can have him! He and Bush were NOT movement conservatives! @UT alum Quote
LumRaiderFan Posted September 7 Report Posted September 7 6 minutes ago, Reagan said: If any of you libs really are interested, find out how much of that iraqi war money ended up in Dick's pocket! Then you may have some answers. But, like it says here -- you libs can have him! He and Bush were NOT movement conservatives! @UT alum No, they were not, and we have said that about them for years. Something democrats are incapable of. Just love how democrats are holding up Republicans that they hate as standard bearers for our party. No thanks, work on your own pathetic party, plenty of work to do there. Quote
UT alum Posted September 7 Report Posted September 7 14 minutes ago, Reagan said: If any of you libs really are interested, find out how much of that iraqi war money ended up in Dick's pocket! Then you may have some answers. But, like it says here -- you libs can have him! He and Bush were NOT movement conservatives! @UT alum Yeah, Trump’s a movement conservative all right. As in bowel movement. Reagan 1 Quote
Reagan Posted September 8 Report Posted September 8 17 hours ago, Bobcat1 said: Dick Cheney - Former VP “In our nation’s 248-year history, there has never been an individual who is a greater threat to our republic than Donald Trump,” Cheney said in a statement. “He tried to steal the last election using lies and violence to keep himself in power after the voters had rejected him. He can never be trusted with power again.” “As citizens, we each have a duty to put country above partisanship to defend our Constitution. That is why I will be casting my vote for Vice President Kamala Harris,” he conclude. Facts are a sun of a gun!! @UT alum @Big girl @CardinalBacker Quote
UT alum Posted September 8 Report Posted September 8 10 hours ago, Reagan said: Facts are a sun of a gun!! @UT alum @Big girl @CardinalBacker Yeah, they only matter when applied to your opponents. Fact: Donald Trump is a convicted felon. Have at it. Quote
Reagan Posted September 9 Report Posted September 9 On 9/5/2024 at 12:47 PM, Bobcat1 said: It's both fascinating and concerning how many Republicans, including former advisors and Trump appointees, have voiced their opposition to Trump running again. What’s surprising is why more Republicans don’t seem alarmed by this. Mike Pence - The former VP has made it clear that he will not endorse or vote for Donald Trump in the 2024 election Liz Cheney – The former congresswoman, known for her staunchly conservative voting record, has been a leading critic of Trump since the January 6th insurrection and has stated she will vote for Kamala Harris. Mitt Romney – The Utah senator has repeatedly voiced his opposition to Trump, calling him unfit for office. Adam Kinzinger – Former Illinois congressman and one of the few Republicans who voted to impeach Trump, Kinzinger has been vocal about the need for the party to move beyond Trump. Pat Toomey – The former Pennsylvania senator announced that he could not support Trump, citing the former president's attempts to overturn the 2020 election results. John Kasich – The former Ohio governor and 2016 presidential candidate has long been critical of Trump’s influence on the GOP. Susan Collins – The Maine senator has refused to endorse Trump, distancing herself from his candidacy. Bill Cassidy – The Louisiana senator, who voted to convict Trump in his second impeachment trial, has said he won't support his 2024 bid. Larry Hogan – The former governor of Maryland has consistently expressed concerns over Trump’s impact on the Republican Party. Jeff Flake – A former senator from Arizona, Flake has encouraged Republicans to move on from Trump. Bob Corker – Former Tennessee senator and frequent Trump critic, Corker believes Trump is a divisive figure within the party. John Bolton - Former national security adviser to Donald Trump, has made it clear that he will not be voting for Trump in the 2024 election. In a surprising twist, Bolton revealed that in 2020, he wrote in Dick Cheney on his ballot and plans to do so again in 2024. Bolton has expressed deep concerns over Trump’s leadership, calling his 2024 campaign "poison" for the GOP and advocating for alternative conservative leadership There is more, but I'd love to understand why this doesn't alarm any one planning on voting for Trump in 2024. This is how you know Trump is the real deal! Quote
Bobcat1 Posted September 9 Author Report Posted September 9 On 9/7/2024 at 2:20 PM, LumRaiderFan said: No, they were not, and we have said that about them for years. Something democrats are incapable of. Just love how democrats are holding up Republicans that they hate as standard bearers for our party. No thanks, work on your own pathetic party, plenty of work to do there. Mike Pence is a true Republican - He's warning American's that Trump is not fit for office. Why do you not believe him? Quote
LumRaiderFan Posted September 9 Report Posted September 9 40 minutes ago, Bobcat1 said: Mike Pence is a true Republican - He's warning American's that Trump is not fit for office. Why do you not believe him? Because I saw him as President for four years, why would I need someone to explain to me what I saw myself? I’m almost as disgusted with the Republicans as I am the Democrats so the true Republican thing doesn’t carry any weight. Quote
Bobcat1 Posted September 9 Author Report Posted September 9 2 minutes ago, LumRaiderFan said: Because I saw him as President for four years, why would I need someone to explain to me what I saw myself? I’m almost as disgusted with the Republicans as I am the Democrats so the true Republican thing doesn’t carry any weight. You saw what you were allowed you to see. To not take the advice of someone who worked that closely to President Trump behind media doors truly baffles me. Quote
LumRaiderFan Posted September 9 Report Posted September 9 1 minute ago, Bobcat1 said: You saw what you were allowed you to see. To not take the advice of someone who worked that closely to President Trump behind media doors truly baffles me. I was allowed to see energy independence, lowest unemployment in decades, the most secure borders in years, selection of conservative SCJs, refrain from wars due to projected strength, I could go on but you get it. To ignore these results and listen to complaints from a disgruntled Washington insider would be truly baffling to me. Quote
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