WOSdrummer99 Posted September 14 Report Posted September 14 !!:20/53/4 You've alerted the ScoreboardBot:Score Alert: Vidor(20) @ Hamshire-Fannett(53) Q4 ScoreboardBot 1 Quote
WOSdrummer99 Posted September 14 Report Posted September 14 !!:27/53/4 You've alerted the ScoreboardBot:Score Alert: Vidor(27) @ Hamshire-Fannett(53) Q4 ScoreboardBot 1 Quote
bullets13 Posted September 14 Report Posted September 14 !!:27/53/F You've alerted the ScoreboardBot:Game Over Alert: FINAL - Vidor(27) @ Hamshire-Fannett(53) ScoreboardBot 1 Quote
VPfan2017 Posted September 14 Report Posted September 14 An absolute beat down. Flat out embarrassing performance. Quote
Right99JOH Posted September 14 Report Posted September 14 7 hours ago, VPfan2017 said: An absolute beat down. Flat out embarrassing performance. Will be an embarrassing season, but the players were all smiles for pics for mommy and daddy. Need an offensive and defensive overhaul and that will start with the HC, but till people start to voice their displeasure… NOTHING will happen. Quote
VPfan2017 Posted September 14 Report Posted September 14 2 hours ago, Right99JOH said: Will be an embarrassing season, but the players were all smiles for pics for mommy and daddy. Need an offensive and defensive overhaul and that will start with the HC, but till people start to voice their displeasure… NOTHING will happen. I been vocal of my displeasure for the DC for years now. I know this year talent is not really there, but offensively i like the system with dubois just needs more creativity. Not run the full back 60 times a game and hope for the best lol i like the slot t, when ran right its a thing of beauty, but always did wish we would open up some. Run some throwback screens, and use the quick hitting passing game to make defenses hesitate Quote
Right99JOH Posted September 14 Report Posted September 14 28 minutes ago, VPfan2017 said: I been vocal of my displeasure for the DC for years now. I know this year talent is not really there, but offensively i like the system with dubois just needs more creativity. Not run the full back 60 times a game and hope for the best lol i like the slot t, when ran right its a thing of beauty, but always did wish we would open up some. Run some throwback screens, and use the quick hitting passing game to make defenses hesitate The HC handcuffs the DC. Can’t run the defense he wants. Offensively… we’re the laughing stock of football. Get behind the sticks or 1 score and the odds of us catching up are slim to none. Quote
VPfan2017 Posted September 14 Report Posted September 14 4 hours ago, Right99JOH said: The HC handcuffs the DC. Can’t run the defense he wants. Offensively… we’re the laughing stock of football. Get behind the sticks or 1 score and the odds of us catching up are slim to none. Idk much about the internal works. All i know is its been the exact same defense from when i graduated to now, and we still struggle to cover the same things, so to me it seems like a scheme issue. Granted im a big fan of the 4-2-5, especially with our lack of size on the line. Quote
VPfan2017 Posted September 14 Report Posted September 14 Ive always been kind of skeptical of the defense. Through 2 head coaches its been the same issues, but defense is not my strong point in knowing coverages, and all that. Way more familiar with how the offense works, or well… how its supposed to work lol Quote
VPfan2017 Posted September 14 Report Posted September 14 Just now, WOSdrummer99 said: HF over 800 yards total offense Yeah its the fault of the offense tho we lost that game. Defense is a joke, and to me thats on coaching with how often players were out of position to make plays. Quote
jimbob82 Posted September 15 Report Posted September 15 defense is the problem, until they figure out what a pass is on both sides of the ball, nothing is going to change Quote
Teamlast Posted September 15 Report Posted September 15 12 hours ago, VPfan2017 said: Idk much about the internal works. All i know is its been the exact same defense from when i graduated to now, and we still struggle to cover the same things, so to me it seems like a scheme issue. Granted im a big fan of the 4-2-5, especially with our lack of size on the line. Clearly your knowledge of football will tell you your lack of size in a even front will only give the offense a better advantage since they know what gap you are responsible for? Quote
SmashMouth Posted September 15 Report Posted September 15 6 hours ago, Teamlast said: Clearly your knowledge of football will tell you your lack of size in a even front will only give the offense a better advantage since they know what gap you are responsible for? It depends on how good your LB's are, defensive play calling is and overall player talent. Lots of moving parts... Quote
VPfan2017 Posted September 15 Report Posted September 15 8 hours ago, Teamlast said: Clearly your knowledge of football will tell you your lack of size in a even front will only give the offense a better advantage since they know what gap you are responsible for? So lack of size on a 3 man front is even better when both guards can go straight up to the backers unbothered bc we play head up over center and both tackles? As i said, i dont know how the internals are with the defense, but from what i SEE FROM THE STANDS our backers struggle at the point of attack to shed blocks, my thought process is adding another body on the line to force the other time to occupy a lineman to maybe enable backers better chances of making plays. Quote
VPfan2017 Posted September 15 Report Posted September 15 1 hour ago, SmashMouth said: It depends on how good your LB's are, defensive play calling is and overall player talent. Lots of moving parts... Lots of moving parts indeed, in all honesty its just preference for me lol, as ive said many times im not smarter than the defensive coaches and never will be just venting frustration like everyone else does after HORRENDOUS games 😂 Quote
SmashMouth Posted September 15 Report Posted September 15 7 minutes ago, VPfan2017 said: Lots of moving parts indeed, in all honesty its just preference for me lol, as ive said many times im not smarter than the defensive coaches and never will be just venting frustration like everyone else does after HORRENDOUS games 😂 Lol. I’m a Dallas Cowboys fan and a Lumberton Raider fan. My advice is to keep your expectations low. Your heart will still be broken, but you’ll survive. VPfan2017 and bullets13 1 1 Quote
Reagan Posted September 15 Report Posted September 15 It looks like someone needs to go back into retirement! 🤷♂️ Quote
VPfan2017 Posted September 15 Report Posted September 15 1 hour ago, SmashMouth said: Lol. I’m a Dallas Cowboys fan and a Lumberton Raider fan. My advice is to keep your expectations low. Your heart will still be broken, but you’ll survive. Cowboy fan aswell so i keep my expectations low already😭 on the bright side my longhorns are doing quite well, been my only high point the last few seasons lmao Quote
Right99JOH Posted September 16 Report Posted September 16 On 9/14/2024 at 1:20 PM, VPfan2017 said: Idk much about the internal works. All i know is its been the exact same defense from when i graduated to now, and we still struggle to cover the same things, so to me it seems like a scheme issue. Granted im a big fan of the 4-2-5, especially with our lack of size on the line. When Mathews was HC he pretty much told the DC what to defense to run and I suspect the same is going on now. Watch the secondary, they play man coverage 7+ yards off their man. In my older, cripple age, I could get out there and catch passes with that kind of cushion. Quote
Right99JOH Posted September 16 Report Posted September 16 Vidor has taken one dimensional to whole new level. Until the offense changes and adds new wrinkles, elements, Vidor will continue to be below mediocre. On the defensive side of the ball with most offenses playing from shotgun, the LBs and DBs need to play assignment football... cover 2, cover 3, and mix in cover 1 when teams get inside the redzone. VPfan2017 1 Quote
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