Montgomery Lake Creek at PNG

[Mr. Buddy Garrity]

Just now, AggiesAreWe said:

I predict after this thread gets buried to the 2nd page because of all the game threads that will get posted tomorrow night, someone will post a new prediction thread for this game not realizing this one exists. Has happened many times. smh

IMO, when it comes to particular matchups, hold that thought till the week of the game or at least Saturday evening prior to that particular game so that it doesn't get buried.

I know. I used to do it with MCM younger days, I learned 😁

[NDNation]

20 hours ago, Mr. Buddy Garrity said:

Atmosphere @BMTSoulja1 @NDNation

That's why visiting teams practice with Cherokee blaring. 

 

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[Mr. Buddy Garrity]

1 minute ago, NDNation said:

That's why visiting teams practice with Cherokee blaring. 

 

A    T   M   O  S   P   H   E   R   E

 

Smh your HS horrible that's why you hit the transfer portal to PNG from Denham Springs 🤣

[Rez]

Tt

[1970]

Last season these two teams met in the playoffs with LC ranked 2nd in 5a-2, and I think PNG was ranked 8th or thereabouts.  PNG built a lead and then hung on, intercepting a pass at the end for the win. 

At a glance so far, both teams this season seem to have found their game on offense, but still working to get the defense hitting on all cylinders.  The PNG defense so far hasn't shown last seasons speed.  This game could be another one like the LaPort - PNG game week before last. I'm going with PNG and home field advantage, and perhaps a little improved defense since Laporte. 

[Rez]

I can’t find any full-game film on Lake Creek from this season. They return a lot of big names from last year, as does PNG. Like last year, it’s going to be two well-coached evenly matched teams. 

Three things I think we’ll need to win:

(1) Defensive improvements. The defense has been good, and our performance against La Porte had a lot of bright spots. LP showed our weaknesses, and we got good reps against a violent, tough offensive line blocking for fast RBs who don’t go down without sure tackling. LC will be a more balanced offense, and I’d argue more talented than La Porte. We need to get better at outside containment and bringing the runner down at first contact. A single missed tackle is a touchdown for LC. 

(2) Avoid turnovers. That’s important for any game, but last year, two of Lake Creek’s four touchdowns came off PNG fumbles.

(3) PNG must dominate time of possession. This was the most important part of us beating them last year. I went back through every play of last year’s game. Here’s some rough numbers: 
PNG held the ball 10-ish minutes longer than LC. (28 min vs 18 min). That’s nearly a full quarter more than LC. It gets more interesting: For every 2.5 minutes LC held the ball in a normal “true” drive, they scored one touchdown. [I didn’t count their scoop and score on a PNG fumble because it doesn’t tell us anything about how their offense moved the ball against our defense.]

So, that ten minutes extra we held the ball was HUGE for PNG’s win. It might have been the main reason we won.

In fact, our good defense actually didn’t stop them enough to slow their usual scoring rate much. They averaged around 56 points a game before they played us. If those ten extra minutes we held the ball had gone to LC, their offense was on a pace to score between three and four more TDs - or, between 48 and 55 points total.

Obviously, this is based only on one game, but neither team has changed much since then. 

What does this tell us? With equal T.O.P., PNG likely loses. Our best defense is LC not touching the ball. They have the advantage in a shootout - frankly, their receivers are faster than ours, their RB is better than ours, and their QB is more than good enough. If we have to win by matching them score for score, we lose control. Our defense is good, but not good enough for our offense to gift LC extra possessions. 

 

[1970]

On 9/22/2024 at 1:23 PM, Rez said:

I can’t find any full-game film on Lake Creek from this season. They return a lot of big names from last year, as does PNG. Like last year, it’s going to be two well-coached evenly matched teams. 

Three things I think we’ll need to win:

(1) Defensive improvements. The defense has been good, and our performance against La Porte had a lot of bright spots. LP showed our weaknesses, and we got good reps against a violent, tough offensive line blocking for fast RBs who don’t go down without sure tackling. LC will be a more balanced offense, and I’d argue more talented than La Porte. We need to get better at outside containment and bringing the runner down at first contact. A single missed tackle is a touchdown for LC. 

(2) Avoid turnovers. That’s important for any game, but last year, two of Lake Creek’s four touchdowns came off PNG fumbles.

(3) PNG must dominate time of possession. This was the most important part of us beating them last year. I went back through every play of last year’s game. Here’s some rough numbers: 
PNG held the ball 10-ish minutes longer than LC. (28 min vs 18 min). That’s nearly a full quarter more than LC. It gets more interesting: For every 2.5 minutes LC held the ball in a normal “true” drive, they scored one touchdown. [I didn’t count their scoop and score on a PNG fumble because it doesn’t tell us anything about how their offense moved the ball against our defense.]

So, that ten minutes extra we held the ball was HUGE for PNG’s win. It might have been the main reason we won.

In fact, our good defense actually didn’t stop them enough to slow their usual scoring rate much. They averaged around 56 points a game before they played us. If those ten extra minutes we held the ball had gone to LC, their offense was on a pace to score between three and four more TDs - or, between 48 and 55 points total.

Obviously, this is based only on one game, but neither team has changed much since then. 

What does this tell us? With equal T.O.P., PNG likely loses. Our best defense is LC not touching the ball. They have the advantage in a shootout - frankly, their receivers are faster than ours, their RB is better than ours, and their QB is more than good enough. If we have to win by matching them score for score, we lose control. Our defense is good, but not good enough for our offense to gift LC extra possessions. 

 

The LC QB scrambled quite a bit, with more than several times just barely getting away, including once in the end zone that probably was an un-called touchback or maybe grounding. There was also some blown coverage.  PNG's LBs will need to be quicker than they've been so far, and hopefully they will be.   But what turned out to be the difference was the blocked field goal. 

I'm curious why LC isn't ranked ahead of some of the other top 10 teams; did they lose a lot of starters from last season? 

[Rez]

11 minutes ago, 1970 said:

The LC QB scrambled quite a bit, with more than several times just barely getting away, including once in the end zone that probably was an un-called touchback or maybe grounding. There was also some blown coverage.  PNG's LBs will need to be quicker than they've been so far, and hopefully they will be.   But what turned out to be the difference was the blocked field goal. 

I'm curious why LC isn't ranked ahead of some of the other top 10 teams; did they lose a lot of starters from last season? 

I’ve wondered the same thing. I’d say it’s twofold. First, LC might be seen as unproven. For the last two seasons they’ve run up the score throughout the regular season only to lose in the third round. The voters might simply not trust LC until convinced otherwise. Second, and related to my first point, the loss to Magnolia paired with them only having played a couple of private schools makes LC a question mark. We know they lost handily to a good team, but their big wins over private schools don’t tell us much about how good they are. 

[NHSBulldogFan]

On 9/22/2024 at 1:23 PM, Rez said:

I can’t find any full-game film on Lake Creek from this season. They return a lot of big names from last year, as does PNG. Like last year, it’s going to be two well-coached evenly matched teams. 

Three things I think we’ll need to win:

(1) Defensive improvements. The defense has been good, and our performance against La Porte had a lot of bright spots. LP showed our weaknesses, and we got good reps against a violent, tough offensive line blocking for fast RBs who don’t go down without sure tackling. LC will be a more balanced offense, and I’d argue more talented than La Porte. We need to get better at outside containment and bringing the runner down at first contact. A single missed tackle is a touchdown for LC. 

(2) Avoid turnovers. That’s important for any game, but last year, two of Lake Creek’s four touchdowns came off PNG fumbles.

(3) PNG must dominate time of possession. This was the most important part of us beating them last year. I went back through every play of last year’s game. Here’s some rough numbers: 
PNG held the ball 10-ish minutes longer than LC. (28 min vs 18 min). That’s nearly a full quarter more than LC. It gets more interesting: For every 2.5 minutes LC held the ball in a normal “true” drive, they scored one touchdown. [I didn’t count their scoop and score on a PNG fumble because it doesn’t tell us anything about how their offense moved the ball against our defense.]

So, that ten minutes extra we held the ball was HUGE for PNG’s win. It might have been the main reason we won.

In fact, our good defense actually didn’t stop them enough to slow their usual scoring rate much. They averaged around 56 points a game before they played us. If those ten extra minutes we held the ball had gone to LC, their offense was on a pace to score between three and four more TDs - or, between 48 and 55 points total.

Obviously, this is based only on one game, but neither team has changed much since then. 

What does this tell us? With equal T.O.P., PNG likely loses. Our best defense is LC not touching the ball. They have the advantage in a shootout - frankly, their receivers are faster than ours, their RB is better than ours, and their QB is more than good enough. If we have to win by matching them score for score, we lose control. Our defense is good, but not good enough for our offense to gift LC extra possessions. 

 

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[AshlyHasBeen]

On 9/22/2024 at 4:03 AM, 1970 said:

Last season these two teams met in the playoffs with LC ranked 2nd in 5a-2, and I think PNG was ranked 8th or thereabouts.  PNG built a lead and then hung on, intercepting a pass at the end for the win. 

At a glance so far, both teams this season seem to have found their game on offense, but still working to get the defense hitting on all cylinders.  The PNG defense so far hasn't shown last seasons speed.  This game could be another one like the LaPort - PNG game week before last. I'm going with PNG and home field advantage, and perhaps a little improved defense since Laporte. 

Lake Creek was ranked #1, PNG was #3

[KF89]

15 hours ago, 1970 said:

The LC QB scrambled quite a bit, with more than several times just barely getting away, including once in the end zone that probably was an un-called touchback or maybe grounding. There was also some blown coverage.  PNG's LBs will need to be quicker than they've been so far, and hopefully they will be.   But what turned out to be the difference was the blocked field goal. 

I'm curious why LC isn't ranked ahead of some of the other top 10 teams; did they lose a lot of starters from last season? 

LAKE CREEK

Lettermen R/L: 25/22

Starters O/D: 7/5

2023: 12-1 region semifinalist/6-0 district.

2024 Key Players

RB Tyvon Byars (5-9, 210, 4.6)

QB Eli Morcos (6-2, 205, 4.6)

DB Tyraun Pier (5-11, 170, 4.5)

OL Hunter McKinney (6-5, 285)

LB Davis Lee (5-10, 190, 4.6)

2024 notes: The Lions are an impressive 24-2 the past two seasons and last year was especially heartbreaking as LCHS fell by three in the regional semifinals to eventual state champions Port Neches-Groves. RB Byars (1,450 yards, 31 TDs rushing) has put up monster numbers the past two seasons and is primed for an encore campaign as a senior.  QB Morcos tossed 11 touchdowns a year ago and is back after starting all 13 games for the Lions in 2023. Lake Creek’s defense is led by LB Lee (140 tackles), who is undersized but has great speed and covers a ton of ground. DB Pier has elite speed and coverage ability in the secondary. Kennedy says experience on the offensive line and having two key offensive leaders returning will be vital in 2023.

[pine curtain]

Lake Creek wins this one........

[png9mon]

PNG needs to:

Run The Football,

Then Run The Football,

Then Run The Football & For a Change

Run The Football at a Different Hole in The Line, 

Eat Clock, Make 1st Downs & when they put 8 in the box to stop the run, a little quick pass to keep them honest on LC defense.

Wear that Defensive Line down & frustrate the LC offense sitting on the sideline. 

No turnovers & the Indians take this game.

[Rez]

21 minutes ago, png9mon said:

PNG needs to:

Run The Football,

Then Run The Football,

Then Run The Football & For a Change

Run The Football at a Different Hole in The Line, 

Eat Clock, Make 1st Downs & when they put 8 in the box to stop the run, a little quick pass to keep them honest on LC defense.

Wear that Defensive Line down & frustrate the LC offense sitting on the sideline. 

No turnovers & the Indians take this game.

THIS

[1970]

On 9/24/2024 at 4:45 PM, pine curtain said:

Lake Creek wins this one........

Yeah, that's what the LC coach is pretty much saying on his weekly interview broadcast. (I don't have the link handy - I saw it on another forum.)  Just paraphrasing here, but he basically says that PNG is just not as physical as last season's team. Besides that he says that PNG only plays their best in the first half. Gave up lots of yards to LaPorte. He ain't worried about home field advantage, heck they've played in "more hostile" places - like the Woodlands, for example.  LC already has this Friday's game won, in their minds.  PNG had better be on their toes. 

[pine curtain]

1 minute ago, 1970 said:

Yeah, that's what the LC coach is pretty much saying on his weekly interview broadcast. (I don't have the link handy - I saw it on another forum.)  Just paraphrasing here, but he basically says that PNG is just not as physical as last season's team. Besides that he says that PNG only plays their best in the first half. Gave up lots of yards to LaPorte. He ain't worried about home field advantage, heck they've played in "more hostile" places - like the Woodlands, for example.  LC already has this Friday's game won, pretty much. PNG had better be on their toes. 

I will blame on being ranked #1.

It is like a curse and most coaches will tell you they hate being ranked.

[1970]

7 minutes ago, pine curtain said:

I will blame on being ranked #1.

It is like a curse and most coaches will tell you they hate being ranked.

I don't have it in front of me, but in this season's program Coach Joseph refers to the "target on their backs" as a privilege, in so many words. Anyway I'm reasonably certain that he and the other coaches have had a thing or two to say to this year's team about rankings. 

I've got our tickets, and I'm looking forward to Friday, it should be a good game. 

[lcm93]

Montgomery lake creek first ever trip to the 409 !! I hope the indians bury them !!I'll be on the visitor side to jinks them !!

[Mr. Buddy Garrity]

Payback games are tricky, can't start off slow offensively especially on the road in a lesser hostile environment than The Woodlands 😂

[lcm93]

7 minutes ago, Mr. Buddy Garrity said:

Payback games are tricky, can't start off slow offensively especially on the road in a lesser hostile environment than The Woodlands 😂

Woodforest bank stadium is not intimidating at all !! Just ask willis !!

[Mr. Buddy Garrity]

2 minutes ago, lcm93 said:

Woodforest bank stadium is not intimidating at all !! Just ask willis !!

I know. 

[lcm93]

Just now, Mr. Buddy Garrity said:

I know. 

It's kind of basic and quite lol

[1970]

54 minutes ago, lcm93 said:

It's kind of basic and quiet. 

... and don't forget hostile.  

[DukeS]

4 hours ago, 1970 said:

Yeah, that's what the LC coach is pretty much saying on his weekly interview broadcast. (I don't have the link handy - I saw it on another forum.)  Just paraphrasing here, but he basically says that PNG is just not as physical as last season's team. Besides that he says that PNG only plays their best in the first half. Gave up lots of yards to LaPorte. He ain't worried about home field advantage, heck they've played in "more hostile" places - like the Woodlands, for example.  LC already has this Friday's game won, in their minds.  PNG had better be on their toes. 

You mis-quoted him about the hostile spots. He said “when I was at the woodlands we played at some hostile spots”. (He used to be a coach at the woodlands HS)

Regardless, LC seems to have lost a step or two this year. PNG might win by at least a few TDs  

 

[Mr. Buddy Garrity]

59 minutes ago, DukeS said:

You mis-quoted him about the hostile spots. He said “when I was at the woodlands we played at some hostile spots”. (He used to be a coach at the woodlands HS)

Regardless, LC seems to have lost a step or two this year. PNG might win by at least a few TDs  

 

I'll have to listen to this later on. Thx for posting this.