UT alum Posted October 4 Report Share Posted October 4 Any blue collar Trump lovers out there? Willing to work a 60 hour week straight time? Willing to work 40 hours and have someone else come in and work 8 or 10 hours to finish your job so you don’t get overtime? He’s going to eliminate tax on overtime, all right - by eliminating overtime! You think Trump cares about you? He hates to pay you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LumRaiderFan Posted October 4 Report Share Posted October 4 So Trump is going to interfere with private businesses and eliminate overtime??? LOL LOL LOL Is this before or after he takes over as dictator and becomes a threat to democracy? thetragichippy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thetragichippy Posted October 4 Report Share Posted October 4 2 minutes ago, LumRaiderFan said: So Trump is going to interfere with private businesses and eliminate overtime??? LOL LOL LOL Is this before or after he takes over as dictator and becomes a threat to democracy? They are masters at taking things out of context....almost like they have never had a real job. Business owners/managers either approve or deny overtime......Ask ANY business owner if they like overtime. I don't know one business owner that would rather pay someone 50% more pay to do the same job. The dumb that is out on social media amazes me......Business owners do not have unlimited funds....I find it troubling that people do not understand the basics of how a business works. 5GallonBucket and LumRaiderFan 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UT alum Posted October 4 Author Report Share Posted October 4 3 minutes ago, LumRaiderFan said: So Trump is going to interfere with private businesses and eliminate overtime??? LOL LOL LOL Is this before or after he takes over as dictator and becomes a threat to democracy? Maybe. He’s immune, remember? Whether or not he does, he is no friend of the tradesmen in this country. The statement speaks for itself. Sometimes he doesn’t even pay his contract workers period. He’s quite effective at using bankruptcy to line his own pockets. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UT alum Posted October 4 Author Report Share Posted October 4 Just now, thetragichippy said: They are masters at taking things out of context....almost like they have never had a real job. Business owners/managers either approve or deny overtime......Ask ANY business owner if they like overtime. I don't know one business owner that would rather pay someone 50% more pay to do the same job. The dumb that is out on social media amazes me......Business owners do not have unlimited funds....I find it troubling that people do not understand the basics of how a business works. DOL requires it. It is priced into jobs. A worker deserves the pay. The overtime takes them away from family and other personal time. Does your post mean you’d favor a return to the 60 hour work week? No overtime? Business owners may hate it. Where would they be with no labor? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LumRaiderFan Posted October 4 Report Share Posted October 4 4 minutes ago, UT alum said: Maybe. He’s immune, remember? Whether or not he does, he is no friend of the tradesmen in this country. The statement speaks for itself. Sometimes he doesn’t even pay his contract workers period. He’s quite effective at using bankruptcy to line his own pockets. Looks like more tradesmen are going to vote for Trump than Harris, even the unions. Apparently you're out of touch with what hard working hourly folks are thinking. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LumRaiderFan Posted October 4 Report Share Posted October 4 1 minute ago, UT alum said: DOL requires it. It is priced into jobs. A worker deserves the pay. The overtime takes them away from family and other personal time. Does your post mean you’d favor a return to the 60 hour work week? No overtime? Business owners may hate it. Where would they be with no labor? Business owners do hate it, we're simply pointing out that you make a dumb post inferring that Donald Trump is the only business owner that is not a fan of overtime. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HuntersLaptop2028 Posted October 4 Report Share Posted October 4 Trumpers will defend literally anything this man says, even if it means less pay, stability or lower quality of life for them WEIRD BEHAVIOR Big girl 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thetragichippy Posted October 4 Report Share Posted October 4 2 minutes ago, UT alum said: DOL requires it. It is priced into jobs. A worker deserves the pay. The overtime takes them away from family and other personal time. Does your post mean you’d favor a return to the 60 hour work week? No overtime? Business owners may hate it. Where would they be with no labor? I currently manage a bank......I used to run big box retail (75-100) employees. Both companies have/had a payroll budget. You were required to hit your monthly dollar budget. Managing call outs and vacation, I would approve some overtime. It is NOT priced into a business.....it may be priced into contractor jobs, but don't think for a second the owner of the contractor company does not want to save payroll and limit the OT. The most controllable expense in a business IS payroll. You seem to think my opinion is I want straight time no matter the hours worked. I never said or even implied that. I will be clear, if you work over 40, you should get time OT pay. I only said Trump was taken out of context. If my bonus is paid off of total profit for the year, I want to limit unnecessary expense. Overtime is the easiest to control...... and BTW, I'm salary - if I work 40 or 60, I get no overtime and I am fine with that,......I make it up in quarterly bonuses. LumRaiderFan 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thetragichippy Posted October 4 Report Share Posted October 4 It's only $13.51 (46% off) and free shipping.....and it's VISUAL...... This is the hidden content, please Sign In or Sign Up LumRaiderFan 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UT alum Posted October 4 Author Report Share Posted October 4 58 minutes ago, LumRaiderFan said: Looks like more tradesmen are going to vote for Trump than Harris, even the unions. Apparently you're out of touch with what hard working hourly folks are thinking. Watch and see after that asinine remark gets circulated among them. And don’t forget his little X talk with Elon when he voiced his hatred for unions. Cost him a Teamster endorsement. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baddog Posted October 4 Report Share Posted October 4 I thought he hated “Daily Mail”…..maybe just this once. Lmao Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LumRaiderFan Posted October 4 Report Share Posted October 4 17 minutes ago, UT alum said: Watch and see after that asinine remark gets circulated among them. And don’t forget his little X talk with Elon when he voiced his hatred for unions. Cost him a Teamster endorsement. Certainly didn't cost him teamster's votes, lol. I know you got fingers crossed that THIS will be the one that brings him down. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SmashMouth Posted October 4 Report Share Posted October 4 3 hours ago, UT alum said: Watch and see after that asinine remark gets circulated among them. And don’t forget his little X talk with Elon when he voiced his hatred for unions. Cost him a Teamster endorsement. Is that why the Teamsters won’t endorse Harris either? An internal Teamsters poll says the members support Trump over Harris. But for some reason, the Teamsters, who have always supported a Democrat, won’t support Harris?. Hmmmm. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reagan Posted October 4 Report Share Posted October 4 5 hours ago, UT alum said: Any blue collar Trump lovers out there? Willing to work a 60 hour week straight time? Willing to work 40 hours and have someone else come in and work 8 or 10 hours to finish your job so you don’t get overtime? He’s going to eliminate tax on overtime, all right - by eliminating overtime! You think Trump cares about you? He hates to pay you. My friend, not sure you are aware, but business' do not like OT. Sometimes, though, it's a necessary evil. So, what he's saying is not out of the ordinary. It's a shame your candidates don't know anything about the way business actually works. Think not? When's the last time JoeBama or Kommiela met a private payroll? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LumRaiderFan Posted October 4 Report Share Posted October 4 Just now, Reagan said: My friend, not sure you are aware, but business' do not like OT. Sometimes, though, it's a necessary evil. So, what he's saying is not out of the ordinary. It's a shame your candidates don't know anything about the way business actually works. Think not? When's the last time JoeBama or Kommiela met a private payroll? Hippy gave him a link for a great book. 😂 thetragichippy and Reagan 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big girl Posted October 5 Report Share Posted October 5 I thought he said that overtime will not be taxed. Now he is against it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thetragichippy Posted October 5 Report Share Posted October 5 51 minutes ago, Big girl said: I thought he said that overtime will not be taxed. Now he is against it? He made the comment as a business man he hated overtime. He never said or implied he wanted to do away with it. He has said overtime should not be taxed. That will benefit the refinery workers in our area big time…..as well as nurses. Not only would you not pay taxes and see the benefit immediately on your paycheck, my guess that at the end of the year, you would subtract all the overtime from your total wages, thus lowering your taxable imcome. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UT alum Posted October 5 Author Report Share Posted October 5 23 hours ago, Reagan said: My friend, not sure you are aware, but business' do not like OT. Sometimes, though, it's a necessary evil. So, what he's saying is not out of the ordinary. It's a shame your candidates don't know anything about the way business actually works. Think not? When's the last time JoeBama or Kommiela met a private payroll? Nor do they like minimum wage, or worker and environmental regulation. You obviously don’t know your history. Triangle Shirtwaist Factory fire and rivers on fire are examples of unfettered capitalism. There are many more examples if you want to learn. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LumRaiderFan Posted October 5 Report Share Posted October 5 1 hour ago, UT alum said: Nor do they like minimum wage, or worker and environmental regulation. You obviously don’t know your history. Triangle Shirtwaist Factory fire and rivers on fire are examples of unfettered capitalism. There are many more examples if you want to learn. And if you want to learn I can give you way more examples of success stories due to that dang unfettered capitalism, it’s one of the reasons we live in the greatest country on the planet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baddog Posted October 5 Report Share Posted October 5 This board is a bastion of capitalism…..look at the ads and it’s a place where your voice is heard…..enjoy you capitalism haters. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baddog Posted October 5 Report Share Posted October 5 I used to work with a man who would only work 40 hrs. Should he make an extra hour here and there, he would leave early on Friday. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baddog Posted October 5 Report Share Posted October 5 Tell me if I have this wrong. I am good at math but might not completely understand how the tax system works. 40 hrs. = X dollars - taxes now OT = X dollars - taxes now OT will probably put you in a higher tax bracket and you will either owe the government or will get a smaller refund because of it. ___________ 40 hrs. = X dollars - taxes OT = X dollars OT will put you in a possibly higher tax bracket because you brought home even more money that was not taxed. If there isn’t a special box to check on your W2 when filing your return, then the tax break you got on overtime will be paid here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big girl Posted October 6 Report Share Posted October 6 10 hours ago, thetragichippy said: He made the comment as a business man he hated overtime. He never said or implied he wanted to do away with it. He has said overtime should not be taxed. That will benefit the refinery workers in our area big time…..as well as nurses. Not only would you not pay taxes and see the benefit immediately on your paycheck, my guess that at the end of the year, you would subtract all the overtime from your total wages, thus lowering your taxable imcome. I am salaried therefore I don't get overtime pay Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big girl Posted October 6 Report Share Posted October 6 10 hours ago, thetragichippy said: He made the comment as a business man he hated overtime. He never said or implied he wanted to do away with it. He has said overtime should not be taxed. That will benefit the refinery workers in our area big time…..as well as nurses. Not only would you not pay taxes and see the benefit immediately on your paycheck, my guess that at the end of the year, you would subtract all the overtime from your total wages, thus lowering your taxable imcome. Ok Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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