bullets13 Posted November 1 Report Share Posted November 1 On 10/23/2024 at 12:14 AM, UT alum said: MAGA will top out at 43% max. Fewer voters will turn out for Trump this time, maybe fewer than 2016. The enthusiasm factor is virtually nonexistent in the Republican Party right now. Trump’s rallies are low energy and the stuff he talks about will thrill most of the 43% but it’s not going to pick any new votes up. His third tour with the same (even more) extreme act is bombing this time. That coupled with the fact that the DNC has probably a 10-1 advantage over the RNC in the number of campaign field offices nationally indicates that a well organized boots on the ground strategy is going to outperform Lara’s social media and boat parade strategy. I think it may be over by the time the polls close in the Central time zone. Plenty of them like him a lot, but people who don't like him are voting against Kamala. Ask me how I know. SmashMouth 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UT alum Posted November 1 Report Share Posted November 1 7 hours ago, bullets13 said: Plenty of them like him a lot, but people who don't like him are voting against Kamala. Ask me how I know. Pray tell. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bullets13 Posted November 2 Report Share Posted November 2 1 hour ago, UT alum said: Pray tell. Because I’m one of them, and have talked to multiple people doing the same Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UT alum Posted November 2 Report Share Posted November 2 6 hours ago, bullets13 said: Because I’m one of them, and have talked to multiple people doing the same Yeah, but you’re in Texas. I think the blue wall states will be different. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bullets13 Posted November 2 Report Share Posted November 2 2 hours ago, UT alum said: Yeah, but you’re in Texas. I think the blue wall states will be different. The question is what will drive the moderate swing vote: the fact that many feel one candidate is repugnant, or the fact that they’re all way worse off than they were four years ago, despite what the media is trying to tell us. 5GallonBucket 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LumRaiderFan Posted November 2 Report Share Posted November 2 2 hours ago, bullets13 said: The question is what will drive the moderate swing vote: the fact that many feel one candidate is repugnant, or the fact that they’re all way worse off than they were four years ago, despite what the media is trying to tell us. Let’s see, I’m much worse off than 4 years ago BUT I really don’t like the guy that did a much better job. This is a tough one. 🤔 Moderates, lol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UT alum Posted November 2 Report Share Posted November 2 8 hours ago, bullets13 said: The question is what will drive the moderate swing vote: the fact that many feel one candidate is repugnant, or the fact that they’re all way worse off than they were four years ago, despite what the media is trying to tell us. So you think the government is releasing false data concerning jobs, wages, and inflation? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bullets13 Posted November 2 Report Share Posted November 2 1 hour ago, UT alum said: So you think the government is releasing false data concerning jobs, wages, and inflation? You don’t? I make more money than I did 4 years ago and have a lot less left over at the end of each month. So the govt can say whatever they want about how great we’re all doing, but my bank account doesn’t lie. I’m thankful to be in a position where I’m not going hungry, and can afford some nice things, but I’m definitely less comfortable than I used to be. The only people who don’t notice or don’t care are the ones who make so much money it doesn’t effect them or who get everything given to them for free. thetragichippy, baddog and 5GallonBucket 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobcat1 Posted November 2 Report Share Posted November 2 On 10/21/2024 at 8:33 PM, CardinalBacker said: Well, today was the first day of early voting in Texas and I cast my ballot. After much thought and consideration, I didn’t vote for anybody in the presidential race. I might have done differently if Texas were in play, but I just wanted to send a message-that MAGA has run its course and I (and likely other formerly dependable republicans) have had enough and won’t support this hateful nonsense any longer. The lines in Harris County were all long, I went at 7am last week and still had to wait 30 minutes - It's great to see. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LumRaiderFan Posted November 2 Report Share Posted November 2 2 hours ago, UT alum said: So you think the government is releasing false data concerning jobs, wages, and inflation? Yes, they are Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big girl Posted November 2 Report Share Posted November 2 1 hour ago, bullets13 said: You don’t? I make more money than I did 4 years ago and have a lot less left over at the end of each month. So the govt can say whatever they want about how great we’re all doing, but my bank account doesn’t lie. I’m thankful to be in a position where I’m not going hungry, and can afford some nice things, but I’m definitely less comfortable than I used to be. The only people who don’t notice or don’t care are the ones who make so much money it doesn’t effect them or who get everything given to them for free. I am doing great financially thus far bullets13 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baddog Posted November 2 Report Share Posted November 2 20 minutes ago, Big girl said: I am doing great financially thus far I bet….since you stole your education. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bullets13 Posted November 2 Report Share Posted November 2 53 minutes ago, Big girl said: I am doing great financially thus far Paying almost twice what you used to for just about everything… no issues with that? Congratulations LumRaiderFan and thetragichippy 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UT alum Posted November 3 Report Share Posted November 3 5 hours ago, bullets13 said: You don’t? I make more money than I did 4 years ago and have a lot less left over at the end of each month. So the govt can say whatever they want about how great we’re all doing, but my bank account doesn’t lie. I’m thankful to be in a position where I’m not going hungry, and can afford some nice things, but I’m definitely less comfortable than I used to be. The only people who don’t notice or don’t care are the ones who make so much money it doesn’t affect them or who get everything given to them for free. I made a post on here somewhere almost two years ago, when inflation was bumping 10% that it would be back down a lot faster than it did in the 80’s because that was a result of the lag in productivity that happened in the 70’s and early eighties. A systemic problem with our economy. This time, it was global disruption from the pandemic that caused never before seen shortages of supply. Something known as a force majeure in legal language. It probably shows up in the exclusions section of your home insurance policy. Anyway, the fed had to raise rates to help hit the brakes, but the reason there was no recession is because when supply chains started returning to normal, the market responded and inflation is retuning to historic levels.. To blame Biden for this is no different than blaming Trump for it, which I don’t. It was a global pandemic that had not happened in a century. So, If a Democratic economic plan is able to continue we’ll see continued wage growth with low inflation and purchasing power will grow for the ones who got hit hardest. If Trump’s tariff plan gets a chance we’ll have high inflation and high unemployment. That’s something I don’t think has ever happened. Consumers will pay the tariff. That’s an instant pass through, not a creeping kind of thing. Hope I gave you some information to consider. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UT alum Posted November 3 Report Share Posted November 3 3 hours ago, bullets13 said: Paying almost twice what you used to for just about everything… no issues with that? Congratulations Prices haven’t doubled. For that to happen in four years inflation would have to average 15.5% for the entire period. Never heard of the rule of 72? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UT alum Posted November 3 Report Share Posted November 3 3 hours ago, baddog said: I bet….since you stole your education. That’s a cheap shot , Dog. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UT alum Posted November 3 Report Share Posted November 3 5 hours ago, bullets13 said: You don’t? I make more money than I did 4 years ago and have a lot less left over at the end of each month. So the govt can say whatever they want about how great we’re all doing, but my bank account doesn’t lie. I’m thankful to be in a position where I’m not going hungry, and can afford some nice things, but I’m definitely less comfortable than I used to be. The only people who don’t notice or don’t care are the ones who make so much money it doesn’t effect them or who get everything given to them for free. I also have to add that the largest, the most complex economy and society in the world can’t run on bad data. Everything from economy to health, transportation and public works. The market hates uncertainty and if the data were bad, the uncertainty would be uncontrollable. Information has to be as accurate as possible to manage the system, both public and private. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baddog Posted November 3 Report Share Posted November 3 16 minutes ago, UT alum said: That’s a cheap shot , Dog. More than deserving. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CardinalBacker Posted November 3 Author Report Share Posted November 3 17 hours ago, bullets13 said: Paying almost twice what you used to for just about everything… no issues with that? Congratulations If l you ever realize that inflation is caused by deficit spending… which is caused by cutting taxes without cutting spending… your head will probably explode. y’all are trying to rehire the guy who steered the truck into the ditch, and blaming the wrecker driver who pulled the thing out of the mud without having a full-fledged recession. Trump’s plans for more tax cuts will add more to the debt than Kamala’s spending. Every economist out there recognizes it. Even Elon admits that Trump’s plan will wreck the economy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thetragichippy Posted November 3 Report Share Posted November 3 43 minutes ago, CardinalBacker said: Even Elon admits that Trump’s plan will wreck the economy He made a comment on X in response to a post. You always post just what’s needed to try and make your point and not the full story…. THIS is what he said “If Trump succeeds in forcing through mass deportations, combined with Elon hacking away at the government, firing people and reducing the deficit - there will be an initial severe overreaction in the economy,” an anonymous user posted on X. “Market will tumble. But when the storm passes and everyone realizes we are on sounder footing, there will be a rapid recovery to a healthier, sustainable economy,” the post added. In reply, Musk This is the hidden content, please Sign In or Sign Up , “Sounds about right.” LumRaiderFan 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HuntersLaptop2028 Posted November 4 Report Share Posted November 4 12 hours ago, thetragichippy said: He made a comment on X in response to a post. You always post just what’s needed to try and make your point and not the full story…. THIS is what he said “If Trump succeeds in forcing through mass deportations, combined with Elon hacking away at the government, firing people and reducing the deficit - there will be an initial severe overreaction in the economy,” an anonymous user posted on X. “Market will tumble. But when the storm passes and everyone realizes we are on sounder footing, there will be a rapid recovery to a healthier, sustainable economy,” the post added. In reply, Musk This is the hidden content, please Sign In or Sign Up , “Sounds about right.” Dude added $8 trillion to the debt and you guys are STILL convinced he’ll shrink the deficit. It ain’t happening PS - mass deportations will cause crazy inflation. The whole point of immigration is to keep wages down and GDP up Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chester86 Posted November 4 Report Share Posted November 4 Lines were long in Tyler County but was able to get in and out pretty quickly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CardinalBacker Posted November 4 Author Report Share Posted November 4 Y’all keep saying “tax cuts! Like Reagan!” Yes, those cuts led to some instant gratification.. and they led to a ballooning debt which forced Bush to raise taxes in 1989. Trump didn’t work miracles for the economy… he just borrowed a lot of money and passed it around. The balance is still due, btw. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chester86 Posted November 4 Report Share Posted November 4 Man there are some smart people on here. They should seek employment with the government and fix it from within. thetragichippy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chester86 Posted November 4 Report Share Posted November 4 Just now, Chester86 said: Man there are some smart people on here. They should seek employment with the government and fix it from within. Stupid me - I apologize. It will only be broken if “Candidate X” gets in to office. Otherwise it’s: thetragichippy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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