Trump Wins

[5GallonBucket]

6 minutes ago, LumRaiderFan said:

Agree, anything found to be illegal needs to be addressed, otherwise, it will continue to happen.

Yes. Illegal. Go thru the legal system not thru the microphone

[aki1994]

2 hours ago, Boyz N Da Hood said:

D’s in power need to concede and move on! I wish him the best for the country, I didn’t vote for the dude obviously but hope he does what he says and not get in there and act a fool if that’s possible. Interested to see how often the MAGA’s get on here daily when the dude goes off the rails while being the leader of the free country! Topic after topic on Biden and Harris let’s see it goes… 

How many times did he go off the rails his last term? How are you better now than when he was in office? How about the world as a whole? The last 4 years have been a case study in $h1t show extraordinaire. Covid, forced vaccines, inflation, higher taxes, war in Ukraine, war in Israel on a greater scale, Houthis attacking civilian ships, men playing women's sports, illegal immigration at an all time high. I would love to hear an educated reply that doesn't involve Democrat key words like threat to democracy, Jan. 6th, facist, racist. 

 

Also please don't take this as an aggressive post. I genuinely would like to know where a Kamala voter stands on the things I listed. 

[thetragichippy]

34 minutes ago, Big girl said:

Trump has made history. He is the first convicted criminal to be elected POTUS. Truth is stranger than fiction

And you can thank black men and the latino population. 

[CardinalBacker]

7 minutes ago, aki1994 said:

How many times did he go off the rails his last term? How are you better now than when he was in office? How about the world as a whole? The last 4 years have been a case study in $h1t show extraordinaire. Covid, forced vaccines, inflation, higher taxes, war in Ukraine, war in Israel on a greater scale, Houthis attacking civilian ships, men playing women's sports, illegal immigration at an all time high. I would love to hear an educated reply that doesn't involve Democrat key words like threat to democracy, Jan. 6th, facist, racist. 

 

Also please don't take this as an aggressive post. I genuinely would like to know where a Kamala voter stands on the things I listed. 

Our debt was exploding after Trump’s tax cuts, even before COVID. That spending (combined with Biden’s continued deficit spending) led to the inflation that we’re seeing today. 
 

When Trump lost, there were race riots everywhere and we had to wear a mask to go anywhere. I haven’t forgotten Operation Warpspeed and vaccination cards. 
 

I just hope this term won’t be as much of a disaster as Trump’s first one was. 

[baddog]

31 minutes ago, Big girl said:

Trump has made history. He is the first convicted criminal to be elected POTUS. Truth is stranger than fiction

Trump has made history. He beat the snot out of the DEI hire Kamala. Those charges were fabricated and you know it. Hey, now he can pardon himself. 
He is now your president for the next four years. I’m sure the student loan forgiveness will be stopped. When it’s found to be unconstitutional, maybe they’ll come knocking and have you pay yours off. What could be better?

[HuntersLaptop2028]

Stock market futures are booming this morning but bonds are tanking on the flip side. Markets seem to be betting on stronger economic growth (good) with more fiscal spending and stickier or more volatile inflation (bad)
 

Will be interesting to see if trump allows fed reserve to be neutral or does he intervene. If intervene, it’ll personally be great for me but will crush the low incone and social security class who are on fixed budgets and suffer the most from reignited inflation 

democrats are toast. They thought running  Hillary 2.0 would be different. People are obliviously tired of the “anointed” ones being forced onto us, alongside the open borders and transgender/boys in girls restroom ridiculousness 

 

[HuntersLaptop2028]

1 hour ago, thetragichippy said:

We need to get a grip on the inflation 

It finally was getting under control but now TBD. Bond markets have tanked over the past month or so as trumps chances were looking better and better 

I own a ton of bonds, so I really hope I’m wrong. 
 

See the spike in interest rates for yourself — 

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(Bond prices go down when rates go up, as they’ve been doing)

 

 

The general thinking on Wall Street ahead of the election was that 

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 in the event of a Trump win, and they could surge in a Republican sweep, where the party captures control of Congress and the White House. That is because Republicans may introduce 

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 and steep tariffs, moves that could spark economic growth, but also widen the fiscal deficit 

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“If there’s a Republican sweep of House, Senate and the presidency, I expect the bond market to be wobbly,” Jeremy Siegel, finance professor at the Wharton School of the University of Pennsylvania, said on CNBC’s “

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” on Tuesday. “I expect them to be worried that Trump would enact all those tax cuts, and I think bond yields would rise.”

Neither Trump nor Harris really promised fiscal discipline on the campaign trail, raising worries that investors will demand higher yields in exchange for holding Treasuries as the government is forced to issue more and more debt to fund its ballooning spending.

 

 

[aki1994]

10 minutes ago, CardinalBacker said:

Our debt was exploding after Trump’s tax cuts, even before COVID. That spending (combined with Biden’s continued deficit spending) led to the inflation that we’re seeing today. 
 

When Trump lost, there were race riots everywhere and we had to wear a mask to go anywhere. I haven’t forgotten Operation Warpspeed and vaccination cards. 
 

I just hope this term won’t be as much of a disaster as Trump’s first one was. 

You don't understand debt then. 

Everywhere? No there were riots instigated by Antifa and hidden behind the mask of racism. 

Horrible take. 

[CardinalBacker]

6 minutes ago, HuntersLaptop2028 said:

It finally was getting under control but now TBD. Bond markets have tanked over the past month or so as trumps chances were looking better and better 

I own a ton of bonds, so I really hope I’m wrong. 
 

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(Bond prices go down when rates go up, as they’ve been doing)

 B-b-b-but…. No taxes on overtime!

 

[aki1994]

Where did the 15 million "votes" go from 2020 that went to the Democrats? 

[CardinalBacker]

1 minute ago, aki1994 said:

You don't understand debt then. 

You’re BADLY mistaken. 
 

Trump added more debt in 4 years than anybody in hard dollars. He ranks as 3rd worst for adding to the debt of all time in dollars adjusted for inflation. 
 

His spending out inflation in motion and he got a pass on it by everybody in this election cycle. 

[baddog]

They haven’t even finished counting and Trump is already getting blamed for market fluctuations. What a bunch of dweebs. Wahhhhhhh!!!!!

[HuntersLaptop2028]

2 minutes ago, baddog said:

They haven’t even finished counting and Trump is already getting blamed for market fluctuations. What a bunch of dweebs. Wahhhhhhh!!!!!

Ok you’re right - dow futures up 1000+ has nothing to do with trump lol 

[baddog]

Happened last time he got elected. A little dip in your bonds will right itself. Market is cyclical. Gee whiz.

[HuntersLaptop2028]

7 minutes ago, baddog said:

Happened last time he got elected. A little dip in your bonds will right itself. Market is cyclical. Gee whiz.

My last comment was about equities big brain. You don’t even know what you’re talking about anymore lol 

[Big girl]

47 minutes ago, aki1994 said:

How many times did he go off the rails his last term? How are you better now than when he was in office? How about the world as a whole? The last 4 years have been a case study in $h1t show extraordinaire. Covid, forced vaccines, inflation, higher taxes, war in Ukraine, war in Israel on a greater scale, Houthis attacking civilian ships, men playing women's sports, illegal immigration at an all time high. I would love to hear an educated reply that doesn't involve Democrat key words like threat to democracy, Jan. 6th, facist, racist. 

 

Also please don't take this as an aggressive post. I genuinely would like to know where a Kamala voter stands on the things I listed. 

COVID- Started when Trump was President 

Forced vaccinations- The EEOC said that employers had to provide safe working conditions for their employees. Also, schools have required that students be vaccinated for years.

Higher taxes- We are still under Trump's tax plan until 2025.

How is it the President's fault that there are wars in Ukraine and Israel. We are not at war with anyone

Illegal immigration is not at an all time high. That is right winged propaganda

Inflation is trending downward 

I know that you guys hate transgender people. Democrats are more tolerable. I don't think that transgender women who went through puberty as a male should participate in women's sports

 

[Boyz N Da Hood]

59 minutes ago, aki1994 said:

How many times did he go off the rails his last term? How are you better now than when he was in office? How about the world as a whole? The last 4 years have been a case study in $h1t show extraordinaire. Covid, forced vaccines, inflation, higher taxes, war in Ukraine, war in Israel on a greater scale, Houthis attacking civilian ships, men playing women's sports, illegal immigration at an all time high. I would love to hear an educated reply that doesn't involve Democrat key words like threat to democracy, Jan. 6th, facist, racist. 

 

Also please don't take this as an aggressive post. I genuinely would like to know where a Kamala voter stands on the things I listed. 

With all due respect I didn’t vote for Kamala! I couldn’t pull myself to vote for neither candidate and I don’t feel bad about it either 

[thetragichippy]

1 minute ago, Big girl said:

COVID- Started when Trump was President 

Forced vaccinations- The EEOC said that employers had to provide safe working conditions for their employees. Also, schools have required that students be vaccinated for years.

Higher taxes- We are still under Trump's tax plan until 2025.

How is it the President's fault that there are wars in Ukraine and Israel. We are not at war with anyone

Illegal immigration is not at an all time high. That is right winged propaganda

Inflation is trending downward 

COVID was not Trumps fault

Unproven Vaccinations should of never been mandated.....lots of blame to go around.

Trumps tax plan lowered my taxes......You can look at the chart, everyone's taxes were lowered

Illegal Immigration IS at an all time high

Inflation IS trending downward - Instead of groceries being 25% higher than 2020, it's 20% higher

The way it is trending is Trump will win the popular vote.....if that happens, there is no disputing the people have spoken.

[Big girl]

59 minutes ago, baddog said:

They haven’t even finished counting and Trump is already getting blamed for market fluctuations. What a bunch of dweebs. Wahhhhhhh!!!!!

How can they say he won of they haven't finished counting

[LumRaiderFan]

Democrats are blaming Walz, lol.

Surely can't be our failed policies.

[Reagan]

48 minutes ago, Big girl said:

How can they say he won of they haven't finished counting

At this point it's not about the vote count.  It's all about the States count.  When I went to bed last night they had just called Pennsylvania for Trump.  This brought him to 268 in the electoral count.  There were, I think, 5 States remaining.  One was Alaska with 3 electoral votes.  This was basically a sure win to bring Trump over 270 and the win.  Now, what remains, is to see what his final electoral vote result will be.  Personally, I feel out of the 5 that remained, he should get 4 of the States.  This would bring him in at around 310 to 312.  

[CardinalBacker]

1 hour ago, thetragichippy said:

 

Trumps tax plan lowered my taxes......You can look at the chart, everyone's taxes were lowered

Honestly, I paid more under Trump’s tax plan than before-but I’m not complaining.  I lost several tax deductions that totaled to be MORE than the increase in the standard deduction. For instance, I was able to write of miles traveled for work before that deduction was eliminated during Trump’s term. 

[thetragichippy]

6 minutes ago, CardinalBacker said:

Honestly, I paid more under Trump’s tax plan than before-but I’m not complaining.  I lost several tax deductions that totaled to be MORE than the increase in the standard deduction. For instance, I was able to write of miles traveled for work before that deduction was eliminated during Trump’s term. 

Yes - That is a good point. What saved me is my side business. I am able to write stuff off that is not included in the standard deduction.

[Reagan]

My first actions thoughts:  Border.  Keystone pipeline.  Eliminate the 86,000 IRS agents.  But don't stop there.  Do away with the Energy Department.  Waste of money.  And eventually do away with the Education Department.  Remember, every State has one.  No need for a federal one.  Eliminate taxes on tips and Social Security.  

Trump's first term he demanded for every one regulation that 2 were cut.  It's my understanding now that he'll require 4 cut for every one regulation.  

[baddog]

26 minutes ago, Reagan said:

At this point it's not about the vote count.  It's all about the States count.  When I went to bed last night they had just called Pennsylvania for Trump.  This brought him to 268 in the electoral count.  There were, I think, 5 States remaining.  One was Alaska with 3 electoral votes.  This was basically a sure win to bring Trump over 270 and the win.  Now, what remains, is to see what his final electoral vote result will be.  Personally, I feel out of the 5 that remained, he should get 4 of the States.  This would bring him in at around 310 to 312.  

Wisconsin put him over 270 before I went to bed. You can’t explain this to big girl